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Post by RandallBoggs on Dec 17, 2012 22:48:35 GMT -5
I avoid vampire novels....one word...Twilight.
*snickers* Just kidding! Na, haven't.
Heard of Interview With a Vampire...the movie at least, never saw it though.
Adorkable...oh my...I am writing that down ha hah....
Ok hunch but...doubt it...Sullivan and Wazowski are taking the lead...I imagine the later might actually get more...I mean I would LIKE IT through Ran's eyes but...doubt it....
But.....if it's any consolation, as I said before...Boo's out...so Randall may get the spot that's open to be more involved in things, get a lot more screen time.
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Post by lizardgirl on Dec 17, 2012 22:49:48 GMT -5
Yeah, I guess it is a long time between the two films. Of course, all we've seen is a single picture, but looking at this picture he certainly doesn't seem to be a guy that, thus far, has had to deal with too much going on in his life. However, it is just a picture and we really still don't have that much of an idea of how he's actually going to act, just that he appears to be friendly or whatever- he might still have a bit of a bite when pushed (at least, I hope he does!)
But even supposing that most of his change from cute, innocent little guy to the person we see in MI takes place in the ten years from college to being a Scarer, I dunno, it's still a lot and I guess some pretty big stuff would have to happen in that time if MU isn't going to explain everything. It's just that, from personal experience, whenever I've known anyone who doesn't come across as the happiest person as an adult, it's usually down to stuff that's happened in their formative years- so, as a child, or perhaps in college at the latest. I guess I'm just finding it difficult to come to terms with this new version of Randall who is so different to how I'd have imagined him if someone had said to me, "think of what Randall would be like at college". (However, once again, I'm still basing all of this on a single image, as we all are...So I could be totally wrong, haha, and probably am!)
As for your aside, considering how such a sweet-looking guy ended up such a fantastically horrifying Scarer, well, maybe that's part and parcel of the transformation? Maybe Randall realised that to be a great Scarer, he'd have to change, big time? Maybe some Scarers are good at being 'mean' in the Human World but nice in the Monster World (like Sulley), whereas some Scarers can't help but take their work home with them, so to speak.
And as for whether Mike and Sulley would remember, well, they might not remember specifics, but surely they'd remember the general idea that, basically, Randall was different at college? That he was nicer? I know you get used to a person being a certain way, but if I knew someone from university and ended up working with them a decade later, I'd wonder why they'd changed so much in that time. So either Mike and Sulley are very much aware of Randall's past and remember it, in which case they're awful people for throwing him through that door, or they don't care enough to remember, which basically makes them inconsiderate, err, beeps.
You're right that this first image has shown us a lot, but when it comes to humour, well, I know we all didn't laugh at the "momma, there's 'nother gator in the house!" scene, and yet that definitely was (an attempt at) humour on Pixar's part. I have a feeling there might be a few more scenes in MI which we don't find to be funny, but the general audience is supposed to.
Also, this is a great distraction when you're supposed to be writing an essay, haha. I wish new pictures of Randall came up more often!
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Post by lizardgirl on Dec 17, 2012 22:54:10 GMT -5
Just seen your post, pitbulllady, and while I agree with RB that it's perhaps a little unlikely, if what you're saying is right, well...That would pretty much be my life complete. Haha.
I also like your idea, RB, about the 'third musketeer' position being open since Boo's not in this one (not that I think Randall's going to be best friends with Mike and Sulley or anything, but you get what I mean, haha.) I really hope that is the case, just because it means it's likely Randall will get a decent amount of screen time.
However, the only thing that makes me doubt that idea is the fact that in all screenshots so far, in the trailer, and basically everything that's been released of the movie to this day, we haven't seen Randall. I would have thought he'd feature a little more prominently if he does play that part. On the other hand, Pixar is known for releasing trailers which are very vague and non-committal, so, who knows? We can only hope!
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Post by RandallBoggs on Dec 17, 2012 23:02:13 GMT -5
Yeah...and in films, in a long-series (Star Wars as an example), generally the "important moments" are shown in film. By that I mean turning points. A lot can happen between them that we don't see (or are in books)
I just...can't see this little guy biting...I mean this seems to be a show of him initially...maybe he bites back later or something...but I am just SO glad they show him like this and that it's a beacon that he wasn't always a pushy fella.
Well...a popular theory is Randall didn't have his parents, no father figure or comforting mother...so like I said before, maybe he had had some rough spots but is TRYING to hold on to being a good nice person...but is inadvertibly (or directly) crushed down to being the "you take care of yourself" person.
I was thinking that...I mean...maybe he's surprising in that aspect...maybe this little guy IS nice...but get him into passing a life-scareing test, and he'll scare the pants off ya.
Of course there's also the whole "reptilian fear" aspect of things....maybe his presence is enough to get somebody to scream...then again...lizard with glasses....that really scary?
I think his blending ability is connected to this...as a staple of fear can be "what you don't see" rather than what you see, letting your imagination get the better of you.
But yes...his change in personality may have come from aiming to be a Scarer...
*folds arms* I've said it before, and I'd say it again...a near-perfect start to MU would be Sullivan in the CEO office looking at something from his college years and remembering how things were like...which would prompt his nagging doubts about what he had done to Randall. He'd remember how he was and realise that he had made a horrible mistake. Wazowski could probably care less, but I'd hope Sullivan would have more decency.
Yeah I agree...but I hope that focus is more between Wazowski and Sullivan in terms of lowering the scenes we wouldn't find funny in relation to Randall.
I mean Randall alone may have some quirks at this age that we may chuckle at (heck, the mere picture is something that brings that), so hopefully that will be enough.
Randall would probably scold you for not writing said-essay ^0^ Then again he'd probably clear his throat and get out of range of comments from others when he spots that "dorkable" picture heheheheh.
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Post by RandallBoggs on Dec 17, 2012 23:06:41 GMT -5
It would also be profitable, but maybe they'll test that with over-more Randall merchandise with MU heheheh. Hey...close one door....open another hehehe.
Well I actually have a uhh...sorta...MI blanket from way back and Sullivan, Wazowski, and Randall are all on it...and I just think that there's a thing between the three. I mean their lives are connected, be it fortunately or unfortunately (later for Randall). So it would make more sense to put them out in front instead of bringing out new people to take centerstage.
Given Randall's appearance here as shy and intelligence...maybe he DOES try to make friends with Sullivan and Wazowski...and maybe that's what begins things when it all falls apart.
I was thinking that myself...I imagine...or hope...that Randall IS going to get this third spot...to test and see how the response is. A sort of ace in the deck as it were. Sullivan and Wazowsk still take centerstage of course...BUT...maybe they'll involve Randall if they have realized how popular he is by comparison.
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Post by pitbulllady on Dec 18, 2012 11:10:01 GMT -5
Well, THIS is odd...I just went to Upcoming Pixar to show the Randall pic to someone else on my iPad, and the update isn't there! Only the one from Dec 12 is there, with the pics of Mike going cowboy up with that pig-goat critter, lol. No pic of the banner with Randall, no link to it, no mention of Randall at all, like the comment I read yesterday about this being a new take on that character. What's up with this? Is this just a Safari/iPad phenom, or has the pic and post been taken down? If it is the latter, that begs the question "WHY"?
Nope, not an iPad issue...can still open Upcoming Pixar on my desktop school computer using Internet Exploder, and the pic is GONE. Why post it it and then take it down? Was it posted "illegally" after being "leaked" or is someone trying to avoid generating a discussion about Randall on Pixar Planet, or what?
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Post by lizardgirl on Dec 18, 2012 11:44:30 GMT -5
I noticed that too, pitbulllady. Plus I was the one to write the comment, and even on my computer the comment is gone.
This is very strange. I wouldn't say it's to do with avoiding generating conversation about it on Pixar Planet- that'd be a bit much. So I'm guessing Pixar don't want fans to know about their new take on Randall just yet, but I've no idea why...I know they like to keep things hush hush, but this seems to be pretty extreme- it's not like it spoils the actual plot or anything. It almost makes it seem as though their new take on Randall is actually quite a big deal since they want to keep it secret for the time being.
Or perhaps it's just Pixar being control freak-ish and just wanting only officially released images to be distributed. In which case, maybe don't go around putting up banners with Randall on them?
Hmm. Very strange.
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Post by pitbulllady on Dec 18, 2012 13:05:48 GMT -5
I noticed that too, pitbulllady. Plus I was the one to write the comment, and even on my computer the comment is gone. This is very strange. I wouldn't say it's to do with avoiding generating conversation about it on Pixar Planet- that'd be a bit much. So I'm guessing Pixar don't want fans to know about their new take on Randall just yet, but I've no idea why...I know they like to keep things hush hush, but this seems to be pretty extreme- it's not like it spoils the actual plot or anything. It almost makes it seem as though their new take on Randall is actually quite a big deal since they want to keep it secret for the time being. Or perhaps it's just Pixar being control freak-ish and just wanting only officially released images to be distributed. In which case, maybe don't go around putting up banners with Randall on them? Hmm. Very strange. Yeah, as Alice would say, "curiouser and curiouser". How odd that Pixar would take issue with anyone seeing Randall's new image. I know that a lot of the general movie fans think he's going to be a bully who torments poor dear Mike and Sulley in college because they assume he was always evil, but it is just strange that Pixar wants to keep it that big a secret that this is not the case. Pitbulllady |
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Post by lizardgirl on Dec 18, 2012 15:14:48 GMT -5
Yeah, as Alice would say, "curiouser and curiouser". How odd that Pixar would take issue with anyone seeing Randall's new image. I know that a lot of the general movie fans think he's going to be a bully who torments poor dear Mike and Sulley in college because they assume he was always evil, but it is just strange that Pixar wants to keep it that big a secret that this is not the case. Pitbulllady Thinking about it, it's probably also linked to the fact that that image of the Pez dispenser was removed as well. They just don't want people to know about the new Randall- yet. Maybe they want more of a 'grand reveal'. On a side note, it's really going to be quite satisfying when Randall's new image, as such, is revealed officially and all of those people who have said for years how Randall is just an evil so-and-so will be proven wrong. I guess it was worth us sticking by him for so long. |
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Post by RandallBoggs on Dec 18, 2012 18:58:47 GMT -5
I don't know LG, some of them might go that far. *folds arms* I've been the olive-branch of the Randall community over there and have hopefully turned some heads in the right direction...but there could still be one or two overly-stubborn people. But that aside...I don't think this is intentional.... STILL, it does go with my theory that they're using Randall as an ace and testing response. ----- Well Pitbulllady, lets take this in one approach in letting it be a BIGO surprise to those general fans *chuckles* ----- The pez is gone too? *Alice Quote Again* Wow gives more to the testing response...but maybe it is also simply the one explaination. A leak. Which is interesting...are there Randall fans that have incorporated themselves into Pixar Studios and leaked this info to the masses? *winks* Believing in something, or someone, no matter the difficult odds, can be either a blessing or a fault. Many of those people consider our defense of Randall as the later...now...we know ourselves (or rather, are assured, much of us have already known) that it is now the former. Of course for some of the younger fans, this would be a "na na na na na I was right" moment, but I'm not that immature. No...I'm not the type to say "I told you so".....I'm the type...that makes it a banner!  (No hehehe, I'm not that immature...I'm that funny ^0^) |
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Post by pitbulllady on Dec 18, 2012 19:49:24 GMT -5
Oh, Lord that had me falling out of my chair, RB, and if there's anything I need more now than some positive news about Randall, it's a good laugh! That hit the spot like a fresh-brewed cup of Kona coffee, my friend.
I'd been debating all day whether or not to put up a DA journal entry about the new Randall pic and link it to this thread, to show the Randall haters that they were wrong and we were right all along, that he is NOT some inherently evil and worthless villain who has never had any redeeming qualities, as many of them often claim. Pixar, apparently, wants to keep that under wraps, so I have to wonder myself who took those photos of those banners, where they were seen, and who posted them on Upcoming Pixar, and who removed them. I mean, that cat is pretty much out of the bag, is it not? No one mentioned the photos on Pixar Planet, though obviously some members did see them before they were removed, so why no mention? The only thing I can think of is that Pixar must have something pretty big in mind for Randall and want as few spoilers as possible. It's interesting that even the pics of the Pez dispensers have been removed, so someone is going all out to keep this a secret for whatever reason.
I hope that Pixar isn't leading us on, only to drop a brick wall on us later. For once, I have a reason to really look forward to MU, some hope for it and for Randall, and it would be a horrible thing with everything else going on in my life now for Pixar to yank the proverbial rug out from under us.
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Post by RandallBoggs on Dec 18, 2012 19:55:49 GMT -5
I am SO glad that it happened ^0^ Your very welcome ha ha...I had been looking to use this for awhile now, and this is the perfect moment ha ha!
I can understand your debate, whether to keep this gem for the right moment or to put it out initially. I can understand more of the former...as how to handle the fact that we were all, well, right heh heh.
WELL...if memory serves...these banners would probably be over the archway as your heading into Pixar studios...I'm not sure how "open" the studio entryway is (if there's a long driveway out TO it or if it's like "on the street" as it were)...but if it is open then casual viewers would see it, which makes the taking of them down, yes, questionable.
And yes, lets hope this DOES mean that something big is in mind.
Yes hesitation is understandable too...*folds arms* I hope Pixar isn't going to renegade on the choice of showing Randall this way....there's still four or so months (a little more than that) till the release date, and I hope they don't change their minds. Because, if they did, it would ruin a great opportunity.
Regardless, however, the banner is out, and regardless of any say...there is NO way that at the point of the image that little Randy here had any "villainous bones" in his body, disproving the stubbornness of any hardcore "he's evil" person. And THAT, at least, is a reward and comfort for us here.
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Post by RandallBoggs on Dec 18, 2012 23:46:40 GMT -5
By the way Pitbulllady, about posting the image of Ran...
A good friend of mine gave me a good theory as to why the image was retracted on the site.
Everybody remember Newt? Well...at the time, art and concepts were either put out or "leaked"...and it might be said (or is said) that Dreamworks Rio and "Alpha and Omega" were essentially taking the "forced love" idea and using it in these films. This...I would imagine, discouraged Pixar and they took to canceling Newt.
Now as a precaution...for the time being, we might not want to show this pic off-site if we can help it. Pixar may be going all "secret" so they aren't trumped by the other studios again.
And seeing as how Randall has a good chance at getting a cleared name in this adaption, we may not want to risk it folks.
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Post by mintygreen on Dec 19, 2012 0:21:31 GMT -5
Does anyone know if there will be another new trailer for MU that they will show in the commercials before the 3D release of MI in theaters tomorrow?
Maybe we will see more of younger Randall then and then they will stop hiding new pics of him.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2012 0:50:14 GMT -5
One correction though... Rio was Blue Sky Studios, not Dreamworks and Alpha and Omega was what? Crest Animation or something? Newcomers to the scene. But yeah... I remember seeing an inordinately large amount of plot released by Pixar for Newt, and while I'm not accusing Blue Sky of copying Pixar, the fact TWO movies with similar plots came out around the same time is pretty much a heck of a coincidence if at LEAST ONE of the studios didn't steal Pixar's idea.
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