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Post by RandallBoggs on Dec 14, 2012 20:50:50 GMT -5
Ok we've had bits on the site...a topic about my prediction being spot-on (*chuckles*)...so lets just get a plain one out there on stuff that's found on the new material. I know Pixar Planet has found a couple posters and this new shot... UPDATE: Actually here's a companion to that pic as well: I also found this shot...it's Wazowski, so avert if need be *chuckles*...that they haven't found yet. Nice contrasting with the night/day scenes. Anyway...this is just for anything that's found to drum up some excitement or anticipation or what have you. And with customary attention...with some "first looks" and such coming out (such as the posters and now clip pics)...once again Sullivan and Wazowski are getting center stage. So what could this mean for Celia and Randall? After all they are SURELY going to show Wazowski and Celia's relationship budding (....and continues to bud....over....apparently...TEN...years), and they should know Randall's popularity now. SO...does this mean they're holding stuff back showing them? Hmmmmm? Anyway...enjoy my casual search findings. Ta da!
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Post by lizardgirl on Dec 17, 2012 20:23:22 GMT -5
Just saw this on Upcoming Pixar... OH PIXAR WHY ARE YOU CONFUSING ME SO. I mean, on the one hand- aww, look at his ickle fronds! His ickle scales! His GINORMOUS eyes! He looks so cute! SO CUTE. On the other hand, if someone had called Randall cute in Monsters, Inc., he probably would have given them a black eye... I am REALLY curious as to how they're going to make Randall's transformation convincing. And even more curious as to how they're going to avoid Mike and Sulley looking like bad people, because if they trigger the change, basically everything he does in MI is sort of down to them in a way. Also, a side note- how are Randall's glasses even going to stay put on his face throughout the film? Sticky tape?
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Post by RandallBoggs on Dec 17, 2012 20:29:59 GMT -5
About time they showed SOMETHING.
Ooooooh boy...and heh...I've got my Avatar (and in person) and you've got your Sig for comparison and...ohhh my...
I sure hope they don't push "geek" with him...curious, maybe optimistic (oh to envy the young), and maybe some-what shy...but not the stereotype (as some have compared (think it was Crystal) the initial premise similar to Revenge of the Nerds).
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Post by lizardgirl on Dec 17, 2012 20:41:47 GMT -5
I was just thinking that- I keep flicking back and forth between my signature and this new picture and it sort of feels like my brain is falling out.
I guess I do like the idea of him being this curious, shy monster, like you said, and maybe something happens to him in the film that will explain why he is the way he is in MI...And something like that would basically confirm what all Randall fans have been saying for years: the guy's not evil, he's just unfortunate and a bit messed up for whatever reason- and by the looks of things, this film could give us the reason. It could tell us why he is as he is, which is really the dream for any fan of an antagonist.
But if it's done wrong, if the explanation is silly, if it's not handled well...Eeeep. I mean, something really seriously traumatic or bad must have happened in his college days for him to end up so bitter and angry, right? Especially if he started out as a cute, curious, slightly geeky individual...And part of me can't help that whatever caused the transformation must have SOMETHING to do with Mike and Sulley, since Randall hates them so much in MI.
I'm just rambling now, but yeah, I think it's going to take a while for me, and for all of us, to get used to seeing Randall like this. It's just kind of weird.
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Post by lizardgirl on Dec 17, 2012 20:51:19 GMT -5
Just going to ramble on for a little longer- the more I think about this, the stranger it seems...This is not going to be a film about Randall's development, right? The focus of this film is on Mike and Sulley. I'm not saying they can't have a sort of backstory or that Randall can't be involved with them in some way, but it's certainly not going to take up as much screen time as we Randall fans would like, in the same way that in MI, if we were shown what was happening to Randall behind the scenes, as such, then the viewers would sympathise with him much more.
And I know that in MI we see Randall at his worst- stressed out, angry, suffering from a lack of sleep and so on- so comparing his college days personality to his MI one is hardly fair, since we don't really see what he's 'normally' like at MI.
But bearing in mind just how het up Randall is in MI, I mean, he's truly a monster on the edge, who technically attempts murder on several occasions and is basically freaking out big time, and then comparing that with this cute little guy is, um, yeah, worrying in a way. They've got to make this convincing, they really do, otherwise there's no point, is there?
And that's something else I've been wondering- why? Why are Pixar choosing to do this? Because by the looks of things, whatever happens in MU is going to mean that anyone who subsequently re-watches MI will probably feel much more sympathetic towards Randall. Why are Pixar bothering with all of this? I'm not complaining, rather, it's more a pleasant surprise that instead of just abandoning a character to the realms of two-dimensionality (though there are hints of a more layered personality, which we are all fans of) they're actually bothering to do something with him.
Also, another completely minor and irrelevant side note- Randall's fingers and toes weren't pink-tipped in MI, were they? He looks sweet like that.
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Post by RandallBoggs on Dec 17, 2012 20:56:33 GMT -5
Well if Pixar has paid attention to us at all over the years, they certainly should know...Randall's smart...he wasn't always up tight (I won't say jerkish, as a friend)...and that there is some difficulties he's gone through in life. No silver spoon. Now here...I can tell from from the eyes and how his hands are that he appears shy and nervous. Like I've theorized with others, Randall probably excelled over his peers and probably is starting college here at a younger age. I mean heck, just look at the guy behind him (who MAY be one of Sullivan's buds....who knows...maybe SULLIVAN is influenced by somebody and "this guy" takes jokes way out of hand (Maybe involving Randall, and Sullivan could have done something to prevent it, leading to the bad blood that may be between the two), leading Sullivan to reflect on things.
Anyway, back to Ran. As said, looks shy and nervous. Maybe he did get in at a younger age and is looking to try and make some friends here and try to make something of himself...but...as also theorized, something goes bad. -------- Most young geniuses, I'd guess, are naturally curious heh. And sometimes, unfortunately, that curiosity can lead to trouble, even when it's not their fault. Einstein, Atom Bomb. Don't quote me or throw an encyclopedia at me, but take that as a note.
I mean REALLY...Look at that smile, that expression. That, in no way, blasts out "BAD GUY!!". I mean sure, Randall's smile or grin at his age now might come off as sneaky or underhanded (if your on the bad side of his crap list), but this one can't possibly be misconstrued as that. I can take from this, hopefully some comfort, that whatever happened that made things difficult for Randall wasn't his fault or was some mistake he didn't intend (if it was something he did). ---- WELL...and I've said this before to Pixarians....I wouldn't say Randall hates them. Wazowski bugs the @*$* out of him with all the mocking...and Sullivan....bad place, bad time sort of deal for him. I mean Randall doesn't go out of his way to hurt either of them (till they got involved and the stakes grew). Maybe....maybe whatever happened...influenced his decision on the Extractor. Of course Waternoose would have had the "do it or your fired" or "don't do it...and you maybe have cement shoes soon" thing, but maybe there was some influence.
But whatever the reason, to explain that something irks him in relation to Sullivan (and WHY Wazowski is SO keen on jabbing him so much) (OH, WITH Sullivan...one thing I always imagined was that Sullivan came from a well-off family...and maybe his jokish attitude is something Randall got irked with. He worked hard to get where he was, while Sullivan's parents (something he probably didn't have) were there to "straighten certain things" out. ---- Ahhhh ramble, been awhile since info came up ha.
Well I'm not TOO surprised....I mean the glasses are a surprise...but I guess he must've had sensitive eyes. And I just hope they don't push the stereotype.
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Post by lizardgirl on Dec 17, 2012 21:09:49 GMT -5
All I can say is, I really, really, REALLY hope that whatever instigates the change in Randall is due to outside forces, i.e. he doesn't just suddenly turn of his own accord. Like you said, a mistake, something he didn't intend, that would make sense and would be nice. So I really hope that's the case.
Maybe not hate, but in my eyes, Sulley and Mike basically represent everything that Randall thinks is wrong with the world- they're on top and he isn't, and that needs to be changed. I agree that there was some coercing for Randall to take up the SE project, some blackmail and so on, but at the same time Randall is genuinely using it as a weapon against Mike and Sulley- not literally (although he almost does 'extract' Mike, of course...) but figuratively; it's a way for Randall to get one up on them, but him to be able to, for once, look down on them- and indeed on everyone. He makes that very clear when he says about "Sullivan working for me" and his little speech when Sulley is hanging off the edge of the door frame.
I think in MI, Randall can be very vindictive, quite a nasty person in the sense that if an opportunity arose to make either Sulley or Mike look stupid, he'd take it. I think to a certain extent he would go out of his way to make their lives a bit more difficult, for his own satisfaction more than anything. Just because of that, I don't think Waternoose would need to use outright threats. He could just be like, "well, if you do this, you'd get one up on Mike and Sulley...(and everyone else)" and Randall would be like, hmm, well, that's a pretty darn good reason! It's that whole issue of earning respect, a concept which Randall doesn't fully understand, since as we've discussed before, he seems to think being respected and being feared go hand in hand (which is probably why Sulley infuriates him all the more- a guy that nice, who's respected by everyone? "How does he even do that?" I can imagine Randall thinking.)
I can even imagine the whole respect issue being a big thing in MU, in the sense that Randall might get pushed to one side a lot as a more shy, 'geeky' monster, and perhaps he realises that being like that isn't getting him anywhere, and then something prompts him to change into the character we see in MI, maybe. Also, I'm definitely with you on the idea of Randall being younger, and that being a contributing factor too.
Anyway, well, I think you're right- Sulley and Mike do something, or something happens in MI, that destroys whatever relationship they have with Randall to the point that they do become the focus for a lot of his bad feelings. Not that everyone else gets off scot-free (see Fungus, haha) but there's certainly something about those two.
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Post by lizardgirl on Dec 17, 2012 21:13:17 GMT -5
Oh, and as for being surprised or unsurprised as to how Randall is turning out- well, I can honestly say I'm pretty shocked. Up until now I really had seen Pixar going with the idea of Randall being a minor antagonist, nothing to worry about majorly but just a bit of a jerk (as Mike calls him in MI), mainly because doing anything else does require much more skill, time, effort, and so on (at least, if it's done properly).
And, dear lord, the glasses...If anyone had told me that one day I'd be seeing a film in which Randall wore glasses, I'd probably have called that person a crackpot! How times have changed...
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Post by RandallBoggs on Dec 17, 2012 21:29:18 GMT -5
Turning on his own wouldn't even make sense if they're going to do that 0_0
I mean usually, I'd think in a way, that as a person goes through life, they develop through what they face through life. Now...if they're going to show that THIS is the point that made things difficult for Randall...whatever it is...is pretty drastic. Doesn't hurt his job opportunities...he became a Scarer and was fantastic at it....so it's not really an attack on his career...so whatever it was....possibly public, maybe even humiliating. Something he took personally. And for a shy, nervous individual...it can cut deep. -------- Well Wazowski is a jerk that shoves it in his face...maybe a semi-reminder of what Randall himself may do in a lighter (less obvious) fashion. Sullivan...well Randall was Top Scarer before, so I'd think Randall was growing increasingly suspicious he was cheating or something (even more so when Randall's numbers were just not climbing as high as they were suppose to). Plus, along with the silver spoon thing Sullivan probably had, yeah....Sullivan had what Randall didn't. Which, may in fact, be exactly how it was in college. Sullivan seemed to have a LOT of supporters (whether they were GOOD for him is a different thing), while Randall probably didn't. Well Randall DID say he'd be over Sullivan in terms of job ranking...but even so, he didn't say he was going to fire Sullivan (if he had that power).
I wouldn't say he'd see respect and fear in the same way...maybe more that he wasn't getting respect by being a good guy (like he was in college), so he took up Sullivan's way of being kind of a jerk and well...fewer people mess with a jerk than a geek. ---- Well...*taps lip*...depends on how stereotypical Pixar is going to get with the whole college thing. I mean there's the classic "ditz gets a makeover"....anybody seen Not Another Teen Movie or the movie it parodied? Take a geek and make them cool, and backfires aplenty.
If he's shy and curious...he's probably lonely...some geniuses are on the inside and take their achievements as subtle boosters to their confidence...now maybe here he WANTED to be part of a group and actually HAVE some friends...and that college (unlike school) would be a way to change face. OR maybe Sullivan takes interest. Builds Randall up only to bring him down (WHICH, at that point in the story, Sullivan tries to prevent, after having a turn around of his own, but is unable to.) There's a LOT of ground that could be covered. What's agreed on is that "SOMETHING" happened...whatever it was didn't affect his career opportunities...but made him "close off" to everyone...so....like said...public...maybe humiliated...a dubbed "spaz" or something that just left a bad taste in his mouth. Maybe it IS a reflection on what happens in the future, Randall TRIES to get respect and Sullivan (inadvertently or not), snatches it away from him (and by when he's older Randall just gets TIRED of it happening, like Sullivan's success and his failure is a bane).
As for being younger...well that's also something. I'd imagine jocks may take his age to heart, doubting he's smart as people say he is (and then Randall surprises them by showing the formulas to creating a Doorway or a Scream Canister). Even if he is smart, his youth would probably be something they'd throw at him, like "the nerd? What's he doing here? He should be in kindergarden learning ABCs". Or that whole "know your betters" thing. Needless to say, I know jerks who take "Age" serious. That some older people think they have power over you because they're "older". ---- Thanks heh heh. But yeah something happens...but WHAT...that's the...that's the difficulty to pin down. =================
As for the surprise thing...I think others are too (Pitbulllady? heh heh). I mean THIS...especially this image of him...should bring a sigh of relief to everyone. Like said, LOOK AT THAT SMILE...that's no antagonist...this is a nice shy kid...who's about to face crap...but that's a testament that SOMETHING happened and that Randall was NOT some jerk devil-driven kid long ago.
The glasses....were a surprise. I mean...Wazowski has braces...ok....but he needed contacts when older so...where's his glasses......er.....glass....? Anyway, I think it's just to emphasize the smart factor. I mean look at Nerds...main characters were glasses and where smart...so stereotype says "glasses = smart".
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Post by pitbulllady on Dec 17, 2012 21:30:30 GMT -5
OMG, I just had my "SQUEEEEE" moment of the week! Makes me feel like a cradle-robber, now, though ;D
Nope, there is absolutely nothing about that little face and those big innocent green eyes that even remotely says, "evil" or "Bad Guy", none whatsoever. I see a shy, but friendly, and very brainy kid there. I see someone who is apparently much younger than the other kids at this college, so perhaps this does reinforce my belief that Randall is several years younger than Mike and Sulley, one of those child prodigies who went to college at some ridiculously young age, before he was emotionally prepared to deal with that, most likely.
I don't know how Pixar is going to handle this guy, though, in MU. Maybe he's just gonna have a bit part, maybe they're just sticking him in there to appease his fans, but I hope that they do show what happened to at least lead to the point where he'd become such an obsessive individual when it comes to winning. It's possible that his real turn towards the "Dark Side" will come after this movie, sometime between this one and the original, and I'll bet that Waternoose's manipulations will play no small part, not unlike the role of Emperor in Anakin Skywalker's change. Waternoose would recognize a brilliant and creative individual, but also try to corrupt such a person. I think he'd honestly take a great deal of satisfaction at taking a young and impressionable kid and twisting their mind and psyche. Maybe we'll find out that my theory of Randall having a need for a father figure and a deep desire to get that person's approval due to a lack of a real father's approval will play a role in why he was so easily lead astray. If Randall's real father was even alive, he, like a lot of guys, might not have been too happy with his son being a nerdy type, preferring more of a jock for a son...the type of son epitomized by someone like James Sullivan. The bad thing is, though, as I've said before, IF Pixar does show how Randall at least got started on that road from this innocent kid to that angry, stressed-out, desperate individual we saw in the original movie, BUT they don't resolve his fate, it will be like dangling a chunk of meat in front of a starving dog and then taking it away before the dog can get his teeth into it. Doing this will make what happened to Randall in MI that much more heinous and wrong unless we can see that the conflict between him and Mike and Sulley is resolved and we know that Randall is OK. To take what I see in this picture, to corrupt and damage him emotionally, and then toss him away without giving him a chance to prove that this sweet-faced shy kid is still in there, somewhere, would be a travesty.
And THIS time around, Pixar had BETTER have some merchandise with Randall all over it, 'cause I'm really wanting that big Randall plushie! I can't wait to show this to some of the fifth grader Randall fangirls at schools, hee hee!
pitbulllady
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Post by RandallBoggs on Dec 17, 2012 21:39:41 GMT -5
OMG, I just had my "SQUEEEEE" moment of the week! Makes me feel like a cradle-robber, now, though ;D Nope, there is absolutely nothing about that little face and those big innocent green eyes that even remotely says, "evil" or "Bad Guy", none whatsoever. I see a shy, but friendly, and very brainy kid there. I see someone who is apparently much younger than the other kids at this college, so perhaps this does reinforce my belief that Randall is several years younger than Mike and Sulley, one of those child prodigies who went to college at some ridiculously young age, before he was emotionally prepared to deal with that, most likely. I don't know how Pixar is going to handle this guy, though, in MU. Maybe he's just gonna have a bit part, maybe they're just sticking him in there to appease his fans, but I hope that they do show what happened to at least lead to the point where he'd become such an obsessive individual when it comes to winning. It's possible that his real turn towards the "Dark Side" will come after this movie, sometime between this one and the original, and I'll bet that Waternoose's manipulations will play no small part, not unlike the role of Emperor in Anakin Skywalker's change. Waternoose would recognize a brilliant and creative individual, but also try to corrupt such a person. I think he'd honestly take a great deal of satisfaction at taking a young and impressionable kid and twisting their mind and psyche. Maybe we'll find out that my theory of Randall having a need for a father figure and a deep desire to get that person's approval due to a lack of a real father's approval will play a role in why he was so easily lead astray. If Randall's real father was even alive, he, like a lot of guys, might not have been too happy with his son being a nerdy type, preferring more of a jock for a son...the type of son epitomized by someone like James Sullivan. The bad thing is, though, as I've said before, IF Pixar does show how Randall at least got started on that road from this innocent kid to that angry, stressed-out, desperate individual we saw in the original movie, BUT they don't resolve his fate, it will be like dangling a chunk of meat in front of a starving dog and then taking it away before the dog can get his teeth into it. Doing this will make what happened to Randall in MI that much more heinous and wrong unless we can see that the conflict between him and Mike and Sulley is resolved and we know that Randall is OK. To take what I see in this picture, to corrupt and damage him emotionally, and then toss him away without giving him a chance to prove that this sweet-faced shy kid is still in there, somewhere, would be a travesty. pitbulllady *chokes* Cradle...robber?? Ahh yes friendly, I forgot friendly. But I guess that goes with nervous. And yes younger, heh heh. Also forgot to mention...I think some say the young are more impressionable? Maybe another reason he's now being shown younger is to show whatever happened left an impression on him because, like you said PBL, he was emotionally unprepared. Yeah...bit part...WELL...since Boo sort of headlined the third role in the original...lets hope they had that spot to Randall. I know there was a pudgy kid...forgot his name...that was with the Pez group...but yeah hopefully they give the third slot to randall for this one. While I would agree with you on this PBL...as a film...it may not follow things correctly...but at the least, whatever might happen sort of "triggers the descent" as it were into things. Oh...that nerdy type bit reminded me of that past comic bit I did awhile back...where Randall wasn't getting adopted because he was the non-sport-loving-jock heh heh. Ehh give'em time...Something happens...how it lead to that...and how it's resolved. Original-Prequel-Sequel. Hopefully it won't be left to dangle. That last setence...good way to put it *nods*
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Post by lizardgirl on Dec 17, 2012 22:02:40 GMT -5
I like that idea, RB- that Randall tries to earn Sulley's respect for whatever reason, and then gets shot down and takes it very personally- which would be understandable considering his apparent young age and the fact that he, even in that single image, is coming across as naive and perhaps a bit shy.
It even strikes a sort of comparison with another Pixar character's development- someone that you've always liked, pitbulllady: Buddy Pine. Being shot down by his hero as a kid made him want to show Bob exactly how good he could be, that he didn't need him and so on, and perhaps in a way the same thing happens to Randall- he might not idolise Sulley as such, but looks up to him, maybe, and then gets ridiculed by him or something along those lines to the point where he goes, "well, screw you!"
And yes, RB, I think you're right with that as well- the association with glasses being a sign of intelligence is there in MI, after all (look at Fungus, for example) and it's a known stereotype. But once again, I'm shocked at how extreme Pixar have gone with all of this. Yes, in MI I think it's reasonable to conclude that Randall's a pretty smart guy, but he doesn't come across as being some crazily intellectual person. He seems to be a much more 'streets smart' sort of dude, especially with that accent and just some of the things he says ("while we're young here Fungus! Kid needs to take off a few pounds...")
He's a smart alec, he's sarcastic, he's quite cutting, and the idea of him being such a little sweetie up until college is certainly not how I imagined him to have developed such a caustic personality. Events change people, certainly, but even taking into account his situation, Randall was not a nice person in MI. I would have thought years of suffering or problems or whatever would have led to the character we saw, instead of there being this 'turning point'.
Though maybe whatever it is has built up over years, and college is just what made him snap. Hmm. Like you said pitbulllady, the idea of Randall's father not being keen on having a geeky type of a son works well in that sense. Though it's kind of ironic as Randall ends up as, well, not a 'jock', but certainly not a geek by the time we get to MI.
And yes, even aside from all of these considerations, you've expressed what I also think is the biggest concern to arise from all of this: a lack of resolution would be awful. Sure, they might show how he was set on the path to the character he became in MI, but by not revealing the whole extent of his transformation, there ends up being inconsistency with the character across the two films.
I just can't see how they're going to change what looks like, by all means, a very pleasant character, into a pretty vicious antagonist, without making: a) Whoever changes him seem like a jerk (and it's pretty likely that Sulley and Mike have a hand, at least, considering Randall's later dislike of them.) b) Sulley and Mike look like jerks for banishing him in MI, since even if they didn't have a hand in his transformation, they know what he was like before, they know that he was once a pleasant, sweet, innocent kid for whom things sadly went wrong, and yet they STILL thought that basically committing indirect murder is fine and dandy! I mean, it's not justifiable even in the context of the film as it stands, let alone alongside the idea that Randall wasn't always a jerk, and that they're aware of the fact that he wasn't always a jerk.
To me, that's the one thing, more than anything, that changes the dynamics of MI entirely. Because you can watch the film and go, well hey, even if bad stuff happened to Randall in the past, how would Mike and Sulley have known? Wouldn't they just do what most people do when they meet a nasty person- assume that person is nasty and leave it at that? Would Randall really open up about his past just to appease his enemies, to make people feel more sympathetic towards him? Almost certainly not.
So the idea that Mike and Sulley spent the entirety of MI completely aware both of what Randall used to be like, and perhaps even of the event that changed him (and perhaps even having a hand in that event!) does not put them in a good light at all. And I can't see how MU can avoid this situation from happening.
I realise I've basically said what you said, pitbulllady, but in a very long-winded way, but yeah, the whole thing is pretty crazy. Also, when you said about resolving his fate, do you mean about after he got banished? Because as much as I know we'd all like to know what happens, I can't imagine that Pixar (aside from the odd sly hint here or there) will actually set anything in the future at all.
What's even more crazy is that we're discussing all of this in the realms of what is a humour-based film- even more so than MI, it seems like MU is going to be all about the laughs, with a bit of heart along the way. I can't imagine much of it is going to be particularly serious; the most emotional stuff we're probably going to see is something about Mike and Sulley finally getting along or whatever, so no heart-wrenching seems of the kind that we see in MI, with Sulley having to leave Boo behind, for example.
So in the context of a movie centred around humour, we are going to see the transformation of (what clearly appears to be) a nice, friendly, shy character into a really not very nice character, most likely due to two protagonists who then end up essentially killing this character. Wow.
On a final note, OHMYGOODNESSRANDALLPLUSHIES eeeep I hadn't even thought about the merchandising aspect! ;D
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Post by RandallBoggs on Dec 17, 2012 22:23:40 GMT -5
Well I'm not entirely sure if it's Sullivan's respect...maybe in-part...the respect of Sullivan and his "college group". Or maybe...depending on what...fraternity...Randall's with...maybe respect by his peers or whatever house he's in (maybe it's Sullivan's to keep things simple). And yes naivety maybe...even the smart can be naive...so yeah...unfortunately that would probably be taken advantage of.
Well the whole looking up thing is a possibility...sure would influence the "you gotta watch out for yourself" thing Randall had going on when he's older.
Yeah I wouldn't say Randall flaunts his intelligence or is so scientific that he speaks in formulas (if he did, he certainly stopped the first few hours in his meeting with Fungus, seeing how shocking it is to have the tables turned). As for street smarts...I think Randall gets that as he got older (working with what I SEE here, considering this is ten years before things)...BUT I think Randall may have gone through some difficulties and is TRYING to deal with them. I mean lets take parents, he probably did have them...maybe he got a scholarship or something to pay for his years...anyway...he's probably working through those troubles to TRY to be a good person...so through working through those things he's not a full-on-geek, but a smart guy who's shy with the worry that he'd be neglected or hurt again (probably from being neglected or hurt by his parents or guardians perhaps as a reflection). So he's gone cautious perhaps but is still willing to try (which Sullivan might take advantage of).
Well remember LG...this is apparently 10 years before MI...I think the general years in college rounds out to 4...take Randall into account with his intelligence and Scarer aptitude and...... ============================== ...................
Wait a sec...HOW...Scarer....geek....HOW...?
Oh wow...ok this has got to be said. Look at Randall...he...well first thing...cute like said. How could this shy...nervous little guy...grow up to be one of the most talented Scarers in Monstropolis? I mean he's intelligent to be sure but....imagine THIS little guy scareing a human... Maybe that's a big point right there...how this little guy became a GREAT scarer...oh man I have to think on this one....
Ok uhh sorry, back to the reply... ===================== Uhh 10 years right...uhh yeah apparently this is 10 years...so given Randall's talents...2-4 years in college...lets say 2 for now...that's 8 years...minus one or two years for training...still 6 years. There's a lot of time for him to develop. Whatever happened was probably the trigger to things, that changed Randall's outlook to be more...hardened. ---------- As for the person who would cause this... Good point with B. I mean if it WAS Sullivan and Wazowski that did whatever happened in college to him...well...a decade ago maybe they didn't remember...but viewers would...and yes...would show that they are, IN FACT, no better than what they argue on against Randall.
I hope they don't, avoid this that is. This is a past segment with lots of detail and emotional events, like college actually.
*taps lip* Well it's good to think that way sometimes. I mean if we had the movie in our hands, it would certainly be interesting. I've made many true predictions thus far for instance...and it makes for good viewing. True...can't forget the humor...but there's always seriousness somewhere...to balance the two...Comedy and Tragedy...is and art. Lets hope we see that here.
But yeah...I mean this first pic of Randall shows and says A LOT...if Pixar is going for solely humor...I'm certainly not going to be laughing at whatever happens to Randall...
Oh man...if they do make a plushy of him, I hope the glasses are removable, don't want to break them...but yeah...hehehe...if Pixar has listen to us at all (OR seen how much a certain Randall statue went for on ebay for a charity (i.e. ONE THOUSAND DOLLARS), they'd know that marketing stuff of him is a good move.
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Post by RandallBoggs on Dec 17, 2012 22:29:43 GMT -5
Ok some quick thoughts.... Randall doesn't know how to blend at the age he is here. Maybe he discovers it during his college time (perhaps when after "The Incident" happens, he's alone somewhere and, in a fashion I've used (or wanted to use) in some material, wants to "disappear" and unknowingly...does).
Maybe Randall was originally going to go into engineering...but after things go sourer, or when a change happens for him, he decides to go into Scareing.
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Post by pitbulllady on Dec 17, 2012 22:44:30 GMT -5
Any of y'all read Anne Rice's "Vampire Chronicles", from start to finish? In the first book, "Interview With a Vampire", which was told from the perspective of Louis DuPont Du Lac, a tragic Creole plantation owner turned into a vampire against his will, the antagonist of that story was very much Lestat DeLioncourt, who turned him into a vampire in the first place. Lestat was The Bad Guy, no doubt about it. HOWEVER, Ms. Rice didn't count on HIM actually becoming the most popular character from the book and there being so many fans who saw more of this character than what was blatantly stated in print. She got smart. She wrote more books, those which were told from LESTAT'S POV, in which HE became the anti-hero and main protagonist.
Now, what has this got to do with that adorkable little due in purple glasses with that lop-sided Tony Stewart grin? Well, maybe nothing at all, other than a hunch of mine. The first movie, MI, was told more or less through the eyes of James P. Sullivan, the main character in that movie. Perhaps this one, MU, will be seen more or less through RANDALL'S eyes, recounted by him to who-knows-whom in the present. Just a hunch...nothing more.
pitbulllady
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