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Post by RandallBoggs on Apr 17, 2005 11:10:36 GMT -5
Strangely enough, I wouldn't put it past NSA to have discovered Buddy's island. Remember there was no transportation to off the island, as said in the movie, leaving Mirage to stay. Either she's been hiding very well on the island, using her powers perhaps (?), so....who knows. Hey...maybe she got picked up by an old "friend" ^_^
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Post by pitbulllady on Apr 17, 2005 11:49:30 GMT -5
I too, find it hard to believe that SOME branch of the US government didn't know about the island, but remember, the island had two functions, one legit, one not. First, it DID serve as a top-secret US military weapons-developement lab and testing facility, just as Mirage said it did. No one will convince me that there was not some sort of deal between Buddy Pine and the Pentagon, for him to develope and test their latest technology! There would have been no need for the NSA to know about that, because that part SUPPPOSEDLY had nothing to do with Supers. HOWEVER, it was also being used to test out some of those weapons for their potential at stopping Supers, who were being lured to the island to be used as "bait dogs" to "game test" the various Omnidroids, which in and of themselves, most likely WERE originally intended as military equipment. THAT part the NSA would have been very interesting in! I don't know if the US military knew about that, and were willing to turn a blind eye, since to have interefered might have cost them the best developer of weapons and technology they had, or if they were really in the dark about it. Keep in mind that they probably had no clue as to the secred identity of Buddy Pine- the techno-Superhero wannabe, "Syndrome", just as few people would know that angsty insurance adjuster Robert Parr was really Superhero "Mr. Incredible".
As for means off the island, though, nothing was stated that there were no ways off the island. I'm sure that Buddy had a whole fleet of manta jets at his disposal, which were controlled by autopilot, so they could be programmed to fly to various places, even without an experienced pilot on board. The problem that the Parrs faced was that a jet would not have been fast enough to get them to Metroville in time to stop the Omnidroid, so they had to take the rocket. I don't know how far the nearest land mass from the island was, since it's not clear just what PART of the Pacific it's in, but even those "Viper" planes or one of the "Velocipods" could probably have flown a short distance over the ocean on their fuel loads, and there were almost certainly boats of some sort(come on, you KNOW Buddy had a yahct or two...or three, or four...)available. I don't think that Mirage would stick around the island for very long once finding out that the plot hadn't gone down as planned, even before finding out what had happened to her boyfriend.
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Post by RandallBoggs on Apr 17, 2005 11:53:04 GMT -5
Makes you wonder if anybody knew about the extermination of the supers. Heh heh...funny....first the C.D.A. Conspiracy...now the ones with the Supers heh heh.
But the Hanger was empty remember?
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Post by pitbulllady on Apr 17, 2005 12:14:23 GMT -5
That was just that one hangar, as I'm sure there were others, just like at even a small airport. That still wouldn't account for boats, since they wouldn't have been kept in a hangar, anway. Like I said, you KNOW Buddy HAD to have had at least one yacht, show-off that he was!
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Post by RandallBoggs on Apr 17, 2005 12:16:05 GMT -5
............Just pitching ideas.....
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Post by lizardgirl on Apr 19, 2005 11:30:21 GMT -5
I can imagine him grinning away on this MASSIVE yacht, wearing sunglasses and looking cool. ;D
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Post by pitbulllady on Apr 19, 2005 13:22:13 GMT -5
Yeah, THAT is a pleasant image, Cool-sorta helps me take my mind off what lies ahead for ME with this whole car engine mess! We just had a big "discussion" over which character was a "redneck" or not, and we have this newbie who seems to really dislike Southerners, and who got really upset when I said that Helen was a tough, Southern redneck chick, which is a real compliment coming from ME! He didn't even want to believe that her voice actress, Holly Hunter, is a native of Georgia, and claimed he couldn't hear her Southern accent. Methinks he is confusing a real Southern accent(which Holly Hunter most DEFINATELY has)with that fake, "Gone With The Wind" x "Foghorn Leghorn" mess that Hollywood tries to pass off as a Southern accent, even though I have NEVER heard ANYONE actually talk like that my entire life! BUT, the character who from time to time has the most hard-core Southern redneck-bordering-on-White-Trash accent is Buddy, of all people! We were joking at how easily he can just go from sounding like an overeducated techno-geek to sounding like a truck driver or something, and it doesn't sound like he's doing it intentionally to be funny, either. It sound totally natural, even to me, a native of South Carolina. I guess that Steve Buscemi isn't the only Pixar voice actor now who has a real knack for convincingly-realistic accents that are very different from his own-I don't know which is further apart, Steve's native Brooklyn from Randall's Hoosier-speak, or Jason Lee's SoCal "surfer dude" from Buddy's redneck drawl! Yeah, I can easily picture Buddy on that yahct, and that yacht will probably have a big ole' Dale Earnheart No. 3 on it somewhere, along with a Confederate flag!
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Post by RandallBoggs on Apr 19, 2005 14:25:21 GMT -5
Randall's Hoosier-speak?
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Post by Beboots on Apr 19, 2005 17:11:57 GMT -5
How many different American accents are there, anyway? I've only heard a bare few, and I'm sure that there must be dozens (because it's a hugely populated landmass, and people seperated over thousands of km have a tendancy to develop different slang/accents/languages/whatever). I mean, Canada's pretty sparsly populated, and Newfie-speak is definitely different from what's spoken in Iqaluit, Québec, Winnepeg or Vancouver (but then again, the last one's a no-brainer - they mostly speak chinese -_-; ). And I'm sure that because of the US's huge population, more dialects would develop...?
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Post by Mirage on Apr 19, 2005 18:56:45 GMT -5
I don't know how many there are, exactly. I've got a slight New York accent...or so people tell me, when I say certain things...
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Post by pitbulllady on Apr 19, 2005 19:19:45 GMT -5
Yeah, Sean...you know we have discussed many times that Randall speaks with an accent much like someone from Indiana, especially the way he puts too much emphasis on words ending with an "er" sound, or MAKES them end with an "er" sound, like the way he says "door", for instance. It becomes "doe-ER"-two syllables, instead of one. I would bet he pronounces "wash" as "warsh", too. People from Indiana are nicknamed "Hoosiers", in case you didn't know, so for lack of a better term for the accent, I dubbed it "Hoosier-speak".
Beboots, there are LOTS of different regional and ethnic accents and dialects in the US, and I'm talking THOUSANDS here. I believe a linguistic expert from the University of SC has identified at least 13 just in my small home state of South Carolina alone! If you lived here all your life, and have a pretty good "ear", you can tell the difference between someone from the Charleston area, someone from the Greenville area, someone from the midlands(where I'm from), or someone from the sea islands, just from hearing a few sentences. When you have had the chance to travel a bit in the country, and meet people from all over the country, as I have, you really get to experience a lot of very different accents, some of which can sound as foreign to a person not familiar with them as that of someone from a completely different continent!
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Post by RandallBoggs on Apr 20, 2005 9:16:28 GMT -5
Yeah....but...you never told me his accent was Indiana....tought you said it was something else...
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Post by Beboots on Apr 20, 2005 16:42:45 GMT -5
Beboots, there are LOTS of different regional and ethnic accents and dialects in the US, and I'm talking THOUSANDS here. I believe a linguistic expert from the University of SC has identified at least 13 just in my small home state of South Carolina alone! If you lived here all your life, and have a pretty good "ear", you can tell the difference between someone from the Charleston area, someone from the Greenville area, someone from the midlands(where I'm from), or someone from the sea islands, just from hearing a few sentences. When you have had the chance to travel a bit in the country, and meet people from all over the country, as I have, you really get to experience a lot of very different accents, some of which can sound as foreign to a person not familiar with them as that of someone from a completely different continent! pitbulllady I find the concept of such diversity linguistically we have as a species absolutely fascinating. I hope to study latin and perhaps several other languages when I get older. I remember reading somewhere (can't find the reference right now, but...) that the highest number of distinct languages in a concentrated area was a few hundred km in the European mountains (northern Europe, somewhere) and it was like, dozens upon dozens per square 100km, because groups of people would remain isolated in valleys, seperated by mountains, etc. *nods* It's so cool. ;D Even the diversity here in Canada is awe-inspiring (we're an official "multicultural" country according to that Act (we're studying this in Social Studies right now and I can't remember the exact title! -- I'm so screwed for the test -_-; ) Multiculturalism within a bilingual framework. I mean, I can barely understand Newfies speak, and they speak English. ; ...I think that I'd like to learn the Inuit language one day, if only to sate my curiosity. (Yay for rambling paragraphs with no point! )
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Post by pitbulllady on Apr 20, 2005 19:04:54 GMT -5
I know what you mean, as I've heard Newfoundlanders talk, too, and it's based on a highland Scots accent, but with its own unique "flair". There are also still come people in Newfoundland and Nove Scotia who are Acadiens, and have a similar accent to their Cajun brethren in Louisiana, southern Mississippi, and the "Low Country" of South Carolina. Language and dialect are truelly amazing, and I am even more amazed, moreso than by acting ability, of actors and actresses who can accurately speak with accents very different from their "native" accents without sounding stupid to someone who actually DOES speak with that accent. Most people from outside the South assume that we all talk like "Scarlette O'Hara" or "Foghorn Leghorn", when in fact I've NEVER heard ANYONE talk like that for real! There really is no generic Southern accent, as Texans don't sound like Georgians, and Virginians don't sound like Louisiana Cajuns or Creoles, yet all are from the South.
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Post by Beboots on Apr 20, 2005 21:23:20 GMT -5
I know what you mean, as I've heard Newfoundlanders talk, too, and it's based on a highland Scots accent, but with its own unique "flair". There are also still come people in Newfoundland and Nove Scotia who are Acadiens, and have a similar accent to their Cajun brethren in Louisiana, southern Mississippi, and the "Low Country" of South Carolina. That makes sense, because Cajuns were orriginally exiled Acadiens. The word "cajun" comes from a slurring of the word "acadien" (I know, because sometimes when I'm talking quickly, I pronounce "Canadian Tire" [that's a big store up here, just so you know ] "Canajun Tire"). Something like : Acadien -> Acadjian -> Acajun -> Cajun. I think I'd quite like to live in the Maritimes somewhere - someplace with a higher population of Acadiens. I've heard that many of the cities in either New Brunswick or Nova Scotia or Newfoundland (they all blend together in my head, somehow -_-; ) have fully bilingual cities - litterally half of the population are Angophones, half Francophones. I think it'd be nice to live there, because then I wouldn't loose my French language skills, and my English wouldn't deteriorate either. So... If you guys could have any accent other than the one you already have, what would it be? I'd like to have some sort of British accent, or perhaps Scottish. I'm so dissapointed that I didn't inherit my mom's british accent.
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