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Post by number-1-scarer on Apr 29, 2013 19:01:44 GMT -5
LOL this made me smile because i read it in a spongebob voice
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Post by CrazyDiamond on Apr 29, 2013 19:02:53 GMT -5
*blinks*....that a yes?? 0_0 Not really a reporter… But he likes to socialize on the net. You just have to know where to find him But given that he likes snakes, I dare to say that he might have a more positive attitude towards Randall than, say, Pete Docter, who is a devout Christian.
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Post by RandallBoggs on Apr 29, 2013 19:04:26 GMT -5
OH ok...believe me...we've done patitions and like in the past and never got much in the way of responses...so I didn't know that Dan was more...sociable 0_0 This is good 0_0 Oh well THAT certainly explains a LOT And a pic to boot, WOW 0_0 Ok....right guy picked 0_0
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Post by pitbulllady on Apr 29, 2013 19:04:53 GMT -5
That would be a good question, indeed, to ask Mr. Scanlon-just how does HE feel about this character that he featured as such a good kid in HIS movie, having been treated the way he was in MI? Can he look at scenes with young Randall and Mike, together as friends, and justify Mike's murdering Randall out of revenge later on? Can he look at that happy, eager, yet shy face, and say, "he DESERVED to die horribly"? It will also be interesting to see the reactions of the people who meet Randall for the first time in MU, and THEN watch MI, especially kids, to see how they react to seeing Mike's first pal beaten, screaming in pain and terror...but then again, here in the US, it's hard to say that this would generate a negative reaction. Our society is so hell-bent on getting even, that whole "if someone hits you, hit 'em back HARDER" mentality is so deeply ingrained in our present culture, that it might not bother most kids at all. After all, in MI, Randall tries to hurt Mike and Sulley first, so in the mind-set of so many kids in this country, at least, that alone warrants HIM being hurt by them. There is this whole notion that you not only should be allowed to get even with someone, you are OBLIGATED to do so. The majority of murders in the US aren't the result of random crimes, aren't the result of robberies, but are the result of someone seeking revenge on someone else, for a "stolen" drug deal, for cheating in a relationship, for cutting someone off in traffic...whatever, but that's the primary motive and there are too many people who do not have a problem with that. No matter how nice they saw Randall to be in MU, once he wronged Mike and Sulley, to a lot of viewers, all bets are off. I can't help but wonder if some of the people at Pixar feel the same way.
Still love that pic of Dan Scanlon and that gorgeous Colombian Boa! Wish I knew if it was his or not, to compliment him on what a nice specimen it is, a very "clean-patterned" snake, which to me, as a breeder of BCI's, is very desirable.
On the whole "devout Christian" thing with Peter Docter, as you and discussed on DA, CrazyDiamond, it's a problematic theme for me. I'm a Christian, and yet I do not believe in that archaic and Biblically-incorrect "snakes are evil because they're the Devil" thing. I know more about Hebrew beliefs and the history behind that story in the Book of Genesis than that. I guess the question is whether Docter DOES believe that whole "snakes/serpents are evil" thing, and sees Randall as indicative of that, or whether he believes in the TRUE Christian concept of forgiveness and second chances. As I stated on DA, his treatment of his antagonists, for the most part, don't suggest that forgiveness and second chances are part of his belief system, or at least, they weren't while he was directing MI and Up!
I'm just hoping for a continuation of Randall's story, as I'm sure we all are, from Pixar or at least Disney. I'd be happy with a little kid's story book, honestly, that gives Randall a chance to redeem himself. I can't help but wonder about two of the facts presented to us in MU-one, Randall was a nice, sweet guy to begin with, and he and Mike were friends, and two-Mike and Sulley absolutely HATED each other at first. Now, all this leaves open the door towards reconciliation between Mike and Randall, and therefore Sulley and Randall, following that theme of "if Mike and Sulley could ever become friends following THEIR nasty rivalry, there's hope for Mike, Randall and Sulley to patch things up". I still can't help but have a gut feeling that Pixar and Disney have SOMETHING planned, and they're just waiting to see what the total audience reaction and box office of MU will be to make that decision as to whether the time is right for it. I kinda doubt it will be a full sequel, but perhaps a mini-movie on the DVD, a tv special, who knows nowadays, with so many available options?
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Post by RandallBoggs on Apr 29, 2013 19:07:49 GMT -5
Ok, I'm guessing theses a high probability Dan's seen the first film...so...I'm guessing that maybe he does agree that Randall wasn't the bad guy, that there was more to him. Maybe, as we've done, he's made a statement in the highest way that he wasn't. That there is more.
Still...MU was done for a reason. Randall is shown as he was, for a reason...
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Post by CrazyDiamond on Apr 29, 2013 19:11:05 GMT -5
Good point, pitbulllady, but then there's the whole "expected plot point" thing. People will expect Randall and Mike's relationship to have some meaning in MI, they will expect at least some reference to their prior relationship, but won't get any... At the very least, it will make them think.
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Post by RandallBoggs on Apr 29, 2013 19:16:50 GMT -5
*nods* Exactly. People need to THINK about this sort of thing. And it will be easier now that they have a reference. Point A to Point B.
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Post by CrazyDiamond on Apr 29, 2013 19:22:47 GMT -5
By the way, does any of you admins have access to this site's stats? I wonder how many, if any, of the visits to this site come from Emeryville… Also, there's one thing I'll PM you about tomorrow, once I'll get some sleep (2am here).
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Post by RandallBoggs on Apr 29, 2013 19:30:56 GMT -5
Emeryville?
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Post by CrazyDiamond on Apr 29, 2013 19:41:43 GMT -5
Where on Earth have you sent those petitions? ;D Pixar is situated in Emeryville, CA. Having a large traffic from Emeryville on this particular forum would definitely mean something… Kinda like when a website gets a lot of traffic from Cupertino, CA, you can expect it to be from Apple's HQ.
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Post by RandallBoggs on Apr 29, 2013 19:43:35 GMT -5
Oh yes, skipped my mind that...I had a feeling when you wanted visit stats from a specific place that it was to see something. Of course, I'm not the only one, nobody thought of the idea before 0_0 *blinks* Umm...probably have to ask LG about that.
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Post by pitbulllady on Apr 29, 2013 19:51:39 GMT -5
From Pixarians, in other words. I don't have access to stats myself, perhaps Lizardgirl can access them, but I'm not sure if Proboards even tracks those. I know there are host boards that DO allow access to Admins for ISP numbers, which can sometimes be used to track visitors or posts, because I have had to use them when I was Admin on another site before. Nowadays, with so many people posting or lurking via cell phones, iPads and other mobile devices and using proxy servers, though, tracking down someone's location can be difficult without having access to FBI scrutiny! Given that Pixar and Disney employees are not OFFICIALLY supposed to be on forums(uh-huh), I doubt that any who actually DO would use their work computers or anything else to give away their actual identity as Pixar or Disney employees. I've been on a couple of forums where the creators of a tv series did join in on conversations and identified themselves as such(including Craig McCracken) but Pixar really seems to keep a tight "lid" on their people discussing their characters or movies. Supposedly several Pixar employees "lurk" on Pixar Planet(NOT the most "Randall-Friendly" forum, along with IMDb), but again, this is an unsupported claim since like the CDA, Pixar themselves will neither confirm nor deny this claim. pitbulllady
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Post by RandallBoggs on Apr 29, 2013 19:53:33 GMT -5
Seems Randall's not the only one that can be anywhere and nowhere at the same time *chuckles*
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Post by mintygreen on Apr 29, 2013 20:36:23 GMT -5
From Pixarians, in other words. I don't have access to stats myself, perhaps Lizardgirl can access them, but I'm not sure if Proboards even tracks those. I know there are host boards that DO allow access to Admins for ISP numbers, which can sometimes be used to track visitors or posts, because I have had to use them when I was Admin on another site before. Nowadays, with so many people posting or lurking via cell phones, iPads and other mobile devices and using proxy servers, though, tracking down someone's location can be difficult without having access to FBI scrutiny! Given that Pixar and Disney employees are not OFFICIALLY supposed to be on forums(uh-huh), I doubt that any who actually DO would use their work computers or anything else to give away their actual identity as Pixar or Disney employees. I've been on a couple of forums where the creators of a tv series did join in on conversations and identified themselves as such(including Craig McCracken) but Pixar really seems to keep a tight "lid" on their people discussing their characters or movies. Supposedly several Pixar employees "lurk" on Pixar Planet(NOT the most "Randall-Friendly" forum, along with IMDb), but again, this is an unsupported claim since like the CDA, Pixar themselves will neither confirm nor deny this claim. pitbulllady They probably do lurk. Not sure exactly which forums or whatever....but I don't see why they wouldn't. Especially not if they care about knowing what fans think about various things....and how at pre-screenings of the movie, they do gauge the reactions of the people watching. I don't see why they wouldn't then also read stuff people post on places like this. It's a better way to understand the customers/fans and come up with the best marketing strategies and what not. So they probably do, but there will never be proof because yeah, they're suppose to stay in the shadows I think.
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Post by CrazyDiamond on Apr 30, 2013 14:44:48 GMT -5
From Pixarians, in other words. I don't have access to stats myself, perhaps Lizardgirl can access them, but I'm not sure if Proboards even tracks those. I know there are host boards that DO allow access to Admins for ISP numbers, which can sometimes be used to track visitors or posts, because I have had to use them when I was Admin on another site before. Nowadays, with so many people posting or lurking via cell phones, iPads and other mobile devices and using proxy servers, though, tracking down someone's location can be difficult without having access to FBI scrutiny! Given that Pixar and Disney employees are not OFFICIALLY supposed to be on forums(uh-huh), I doubt that any who actually DO would use their work computers or anything else to give away their actual identity as Pixar or Disney employees. I've been on a couple of forums where the creators of a tv series did join in on conversations and identified themselves as such(including Craig McCracken) but Pixar really seems to keep a tight "lid" on their people discussing their characters or movies. Supposedly several Pixar employees "lurk" on Pixar Planet(NOT the most "Randall-Friendly" forum, along with IMDb), but again, this is an unsupported claim since like the CDA, Pixar themselves will neither confirm nor deny this claim. pitbulllady They probably do lurk. Not sure exactly which forums or whatever....but I don't see why they wouldn't. Especially not if they care about knowing what fans think about various things....and how at pre-screenings of the movie, they do gauge the reactions of the people watching. I don't see why they wouldn't then also read stuff people post on places like this. It's a better way to understand the customers/fans and come up with the best marketing strategies and what not. So they probably do, but there will never be proof because yeah, they're suppose to stay in the shadows I think. Exactly. Their contracts usually contain a clause prohibiting them from "engaging" in such online activities. In other words, they can look, but they can't touch.
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