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Post by pitbulllady on Feb 17, 2013 16:10:15 GMT -5
I wonder if the three of them were rooming together? I know that at a lot of colleges, especially if strapped for space in times of peak enrollment, will put freshmen three or even four to a room or suite. In my freshman year my roommie and I had to share a suite, which was basically two tiny rooms connected by a bathroom, with two other students who did nothing but party non-stop. Never went to classes; didn't have to. They were there on sports scholarships and the college would not have dared to do anything that might cause a potential big Sports Star to leave. Bet it was the same way with Sulley up to a point. Either Sulley was a roommate, too, or he was in the neighboring dorm room, him and his porcine pal(I can hear Jeff Foxworthy now..."If you bring a pet HOG to school during your freshman year at college, you might be a redneck").
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Post by pitbulllady on Feb 17, 2013 16:16:08 GMT -5
I know I said I wouldn't come on here any more, but I was watching the trailer for the nth time today (instead of doing my essay...doo bee doo...clearly not coming on the forums doesn't seem to be decreasing the amount of time I spend squeeing over new Randall stuff) and I noticed something that I just HAD to point out! Is that Randall's SLIPPER on that broomstick there? Hahaha! Also, I know it's a different thread but omgeee the Message from the Dean video is amazing and that sentimental touch of the statue and AAAAH SO MUCH GOODNESS. Anyone else notice that Randall's tail in that scene, when he touches the statue, looks much curvier and less bent/broken than usual? (Sorry if someone else has mentioned this on another thread, but I'm really trying not to spend too much time here haha.) ANYWAY, that's all I wanted to say. *flies away* That is totally Randall's bedroom slipper on the end of that broomstick 1959 Gibson Les Paul Sunburst, lol. Can't imagine that Randall would be a happy camper about that, either, so he's either sleeping through all this mayhem and mischief, or he was out somewhere, or was being prevented from doing anything about it. It does show that Randall's slippers are not just replicas of himself, though, since they have those little horns instead of fronds, so they must represent some critter from the Monster World or a cartoon character, the Monster World equivalent of Spongebob, perhaps. pitbulllady
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Post by mintygreen on Feb 17, 2013 17:51:08 GMT -5
I wonder if the three of them were rooming together? I know that at a lot of colleges, especially if strapped for space in times of peak enrollment, will put freshmen three or even four to a room or suite. In my freshman year my roommie and I had to share a suite, which was basically two tiny rooms connected by a bathroom, with two other students who did nothing but party non-stop. Never went to classes; didn't have to. They were there on sports scholarships and the college would not have dared to do anything that might cause a potential big Sports Star to leave. Bet it was the same way with Sulley up to a point. Either Sulley was a roommate, too, or he was in the neighboring dorm room, him and his porcine pal(I can hear Jeff Foxworthy now..."If you bring a pet HOG to school during your freshman year at college, you might be a redneck"). pitbulllady Yeah, my sister shared with one other girl for the first 2 years from what I recall and then other years she was with 3 other girls. I never shared myself because I never lived on campus since all the schools I went to were close enough to my home and I just lived at home. That must suck to have to put up with people who party non-stop though, PBL. My sister was lucky not to end up having any bad roommates. She's still doing more schooling now actually....but she'll be heading into a PHD program in the fall and I think it gets different when people get to that level of education.
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Post by RandallBoggs on Feb 17, 2013 23:25:47 GMT -5
You know the two-armed sweater is curious to me. The MU website has hoodies with four arms...and a lot of tentecale monsters can have four arms...so why did Randall get a non-custom sweater for both arms? (perhaps it was one on hand...or "temporary"...) --- *takes a bow* Your welcome tehehe. Sometimes it's a good idea to go BACK and take a second look (as a new member had recently done) with the new knowledge you have. --- Well there ARE just two beds...Randall's and Wazowski's...so seems like two-er. I mean honestly, think they'd both go crazy with Sullivan's antics. Maybe he IS in the one right across the hallway (their "Kramer" heh heh) --- I believe at one point the monsters STOP because of something...in the teaser it was Wazowski (but that might not happen, that whole disco-bit is probably JUST for the teaser)...but what if it's Randall? ---
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Post by mintygreen on Feb 17, 2013 23:32:33 GMT -5
You know the two-armed sweater is curious to me. The MU website has hoodies with four arms...and a lot of tentecale monsters can have four arms...so why did Randall get a non-custom sweater for both arms? (perhaps it was one on hand...or "temporary"...) I am surprised that he doesn't have a 4 armed one, yeah.
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Post by Kidversion on Mar 19, 2013 18:09:15 GMT -5
Um... hi.. new here. I think this is amazing what you've guys found about Randall in this movie. I love his side of the room, and his glasses <3 I kinda figured out that he was gonna be Mike's roomate because in the trailer when he opens the door he's wearing a hat, not to mention the purple bed.
Anyways, I'm kinda sad though, cause I know in the end he's gonna turn "bad". I just hope pixar has the guts to make it tragic. Maybe he got humiliated because of his invisibility power... or maybe he was bullied, or used and manipulated into joining Ror or something... I hope it literally shows him becoming "bad" and not just being nice at the ending cause we know what he's like in MI. I don't want Sulley or Mike to seem like jerks either.
Maybe there was a misunderstanding and Randall (who believed Mike and him were "tight") is forced to believe Mike betrayed him because of Sulley or something... I really hope it isn't just joining Ror that makes him go nuts. It better be more than that. Maybe Ror needed his invisibility to do something bad like breaking the law or something. And made him ditch the glasses. And by making Randall do something against his own will, starts to change Randall slowly. I just... really hope his "change" is more than just peer pressure and stuff. He seems so cute and sweet in the MU poster. I won't believe he's become bad unless they really do something horrible to poor Randy to make him change from cute, glasses wearing, college student -to - mean, crazy, co-worker... idk...
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Post by pitbulllady on Mar 19, 2013 18:48:59 GMT -5
Um... hi.. new here. I think this is amazing what you've guys found about Randall in this movie. I love his side of the room, and his glasses <3 I kinda figured out that he was gonna be Mike's roomate because in the trailer when he opens the door he's wearing a hat, not to mention the purple bed. Anyways, I'm kinda sad though, cause I know in the end he's gonna turn "bad". I just hope pixar has the guts to make it tragic. Maybe he got humiliated because of his invisibility power... or maybe he was bullied, or used and manipulated into joining Ror or something... I hope it literally shows him becoming "bad" and not just being nice at the ending cause we know what he's like in MI. I don't want Sulley or Mike to seem like jerks either. Maybe there was a misunderstanding and Randall (who believed Mike and him were "tight") is forced to believe Mike betrayed him because of Sulley or something... I really hope it isn't just joining Ror that makes him go nuts. It better be more than that. Maybe Ror needed his invisibility to do something bad like breaking the law or something. And made him ditch the glasses. And by making Randall do something against his own will, starts to change Randall slowly. I just... really hope his "change" is more than just peer pressure and stuff. He seems so cute and sweet in the MU poster. I won't believe he's become bad unless they really do something horrible to poor Randy to make him change from cute, glasses wearing, college student -to - mean, crazy, co-worker... idk... I still hold firm to my belief that the vast majority of what we see in Randall's attitude and behavior in MI was due to what he'd been through for the past 2 1/2 years while working on the Scream Extractor. I know from first-hand experience-a LOT of such first-hand experience-what that sort of thing in a workplace can do to you in terms of your outlook, how you react to and treat others and how you see yourself. We will probably see, as Steve Buscemi put it, the "seeds" of what would eventually lead up to Randall getting involved with that sort of thing in MU, something along the lines of Randall losing trust in others, being manipulated by ROR into believing that he has to be tough to succeed, that he has to be ruthless, while establishing his belief that James Sullivan is a privileged brat who always gets ahead because of who he is and whom he knows(and Randall probably is right about that, too). If Randall winds up with the same "crazy" behavior that we saw by the second half of MI, and applies for a JOB acting like that, who do you honestly think would hire him? Would YOU hire someone who acted like that? OR keep them for very long after that behavior manifested, as it would certainly do after a very short time? Randall was a Scarer, a very high-risk job, in a large corporation, so in order to get that job, he had to have taken and passed a rigorous psychological examination and background check. If anything had come up in the results that showed him to have antisocial and violent tendencies, he never would have gotten a foot in the door. No company is going to hire someone like that a risky position, so Randall's major turn for the worse would have to have taken place after he was hired. That's not to say he won't experience some aspect of the harsh realities of life while in college, though. While the thought of him simply being manipulated and falling under the control of his ROR "brothers" might not sound as tragic as say, him getting beaten up and bullied all the time, it is STILL a tragedy that someone with that much potential and that much hope is ever made to believe that they have to be something that they're really not, rather than themselves, in order to be successful. It's a tragedy anytime an innocent soul is hardened by contact with someone who does not have their best interests at heart, and I doubt that Johnny and all the other ROR guys really care about Randall at all. pitbulllady
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Post by RandallBoggs on Mar 19, 2013 18:54:55 GMT -5
I noted that before myself on the Planet if I recall... In the end of MU...we KNOW Randall becomes a scarer (a Top Scarer at that)...which is what he was aiming for (as we see, with Top Scarer comes recognition and respect). So...WHY would he hate those two if he had gotten what he wanted? Whatever happened at MU that irked his personality would have been something scarring, and began to emerge when he lost everything to Sullivan later on. I mean when you think about it...Randall was pulling double. He was doing his work AND working late on the extractor yet STILL manages to match up to Sullivan. Take away the extractor and well...what we see? He wasn't at the top of his game, not even close, yet he was managing so well.
I like that he chose the word "seeds" because seeds are planted by somebody else, not the person themselves. Another thing to take away from that interview is Steve never referred to Randall as the antagonist/villain/or become-the-bad guy...which is what some people may think is obvious to have been said...but it wasn't. Just the opposite..."kind of a geek".
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Post by pitbulllady on Mar 19, 2013 19:43:07 GMT -5
I noted that before myself on the Planet if I recall... In the end of MU...we KNOW Randall becomes a scarer (a Top Scarer at that)...which is what he was aiming for (as we see, with Top Scarer comes recognition and respect). So...WHY would he hate those two if he had gotten what he wanted? Whatever happened at MU that irked his personality would have been something scarring, and began to emerge when he lost everything to Sullivan later on. I mean when you think about it...Randall was pulling double. He was doing his work AND working late on the extractor yet STILL manages to match up to Sullivan. Take away the extractor and well...what we see? He wasn't at the top of his game, not even close, yet he was managing so well. I like that he chose the word "seeds" because seeds are planted by somebody else, not the person themselves. Another thing to take away from that interview is Steve never referred to Randall as the antagonist/villain/or become-the-bad guy...which is what some people may think is obvious to have been said...but it wasn't. Just the opposite..."kind of a geek". Steve says, and I quote: "...He’s more full of wonder and a little bit geeky, and very different from what he becomes in the first movie. But throughout the movie, you get to see the seeds of what he becomes - the Randall from Monsters Inc.” The key phrases here is " becomes in the first movie" and "what he becomes-the Randall in the first movie". That indicates that the main elements of Randall's "meltdown", if you will, happen during the course of MI, although some things will be put into motion that establish some "bad blood" between Randall and Sulley and Mike at some point in MU. It also means, as we've said all along, that Randall was NOT evil or bad or mean from the start. Something MADE him act the way he did in MI, turned him into something that really wasn't him. pitbulllady
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Post by RandallBoggs on Mar 19, 2013 19:46:57 GMT -5
Considering Randall becomes a top scarer....and Sullivan and Wazowski (apparently) end up in the mail room...whatever it was would have damaged Randall's social life rather than career...
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Post by mintygreen on Mar 20, 2013 0:10:52 GMT -5
while establishing his belief that James Sullivan is a privileged brat who always gets ahead because of who he is and whom he knows(and Randall probably is right about that, too). Yeah, I mean we now know that Sulley comes from a long line of top scarers, since it said so in the description we got about him in MU. Although it does seem like Sulley is going to get into some kind of trouble with the staff at MU despite his privileged family history. So I guess his family history and who he knows doesn't really always save him....but we'll see. I've never been a fan of Sulley at all myself, personally.
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