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Post by pitbulllady on Feb 12, 2013 19:20:39 GMT -5
I've got to say that is is a surprise in some ways and totally expected in others. I've always had the impression that Randall was a neat-freak and a perfectionist....maybe not quite Adrian Monk-obsessive with the neatness and the perfection, but fairly close. The coordinating luggage and bed spread sorta caught me off-guard, though. Now, had I just seen the luggage, which in the US would appear homemade(possibly from flour sacks, which used to be printed in nice patterns on high-quality cotton cloth), that would have reinforced my impression of him having come from a rather simple, working-class and possibly rural Heartland American background, but here? He comes across as more well-to-do, a bit on the "artsy/intellectual" side, definitely not what college kids would consider "cool" or trendy. Mike has posters of famous Scarers, and Randall has artistic motivational posters. And you know those slippers were made for him by some dowdy old aunt or grandmother, and I never thought I'd see slippers that trumped Megamind's bat slippers, but these seriously do just that! Bet Randall sleeps in some equally-awesome jammies, too, like the ones he had on in the Disney comic! Pixar really does seem to be trying to portray him as 180 degrees opposite from how he came across in the original movie-awkward, insecure but friendly, brainy, probably artisticly-inclined(interesting how there's that connection with Boo, isn't it?), compulsively neat and orderly...probably the last monster on the planet that anyone would ever think of as a potential Scarer! Makes me all the more curious as to how everything went so terribly wrong for him, whether it was a wrong that never got "righted" or just some horrible misunderstanding that never got straightened out. I can see, though, how there could have been at least some initial conflict between him and Mike, as roomies, with Randall being the "Felix Unger" type and Mike being someone who'd see no need of a trash bin when you've got a perfectly good floor.
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Post by RandallBoggs on Feb 12, 2013 19:54:38 GMT -5
Whatever the reason (barring if Wazowski had Randall do it), this shows a kidness on Randall's part. The guy may eat, but he's certainly got enough and with the intention to share with Wazowski. Oh no...I've GOT to do something...I'll post it soon heh heh...
Randall might have that "implosive" form of anger to him. He's not an angry person by nature, but he has a lot of it built up, and I guess he sympathizes with Wazowski on that front. His reluctance, however, makes him inable.
As I can't get the clip for now, have to rely on the pics... - Ok, if the bed, Randall's presence, and all the like doesn't say it, the Winds of Change poster DEFINETLY does heh. Wow...look at all those pillows 0_0 He's got like...well three...maybe five if it's symetrical in it's cleanlyness. - Dang Ran...nice pile there. And wow heh...color coded to the max hehehehe. - Hmm it's just a corner unfortunately...but given the bed and how he put his things out of the way, I'd imagine that he is quite orderly. - I HOPE they're not showing Randall as the rich boy...he's not... Hmm...the trunk I can understand but the...purse-esque (I'm not a bag person people 0_-) one is a strange pic...and they all seem to be in alright condition...I'm not sure if scholarship money can go toward supplies (outside books), but maybe that explains it...? - AWWWW, Randy has slippers ^0^ And more of a reason for me and the guys to bring up a story about them awww hehehe. Ooh oh! What if those cupcakes were from a Christmas-esque holiday, and Randall's actually wearing his slippers in that scene? ^0^
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Post by RandallBoggs on Feb 12, 2013 19:59:17 GMT -5
I've got to say that is is a surprise in some ways and totally expected in others. I've always had the impression that Randall was a neat-freak and a perfectionist....maybe not quite Adrian Monk-obsessive with the neatness and the perfection, but fairly close. The coordinating luggage and bed spread sorta caught me off-guard, though. Now, had I just seen the luggage, which in the US would appear homemade(possibly from flour sacks, which used to be printed in nice patterns on high-quality cotton cloth), that would have reinforced my impression of him having come from a rather simple, working-class and possibly rural Heartland American background, but here? He comes across as more well-to-do, a bit on the "artsy/intellectual" side, definitely not what college kids would consider "cool" or trendy. Mike has posters of famous Scarers, and Randall has artistic motivational posters. And you know those slippers were made for him by some dowdy old aunt or grandmother, and I never thought I'd see slippers that trumped Megamind's bat slippers, but these seriously do just that! Bet Randall sleeps in some equally-awesome jammies, too, like the ones he had on in the Disney comic! Pixar really does seem to be trying to portray him as 180 degrees opposite from how he came across in the original movie-awkward, insecure but friendly, brainy, probably artisticly-inclined(interesting how there's that connection with Boo, isn't it?), compulsively neat and orderly...probably the last monster on the planet that anyone would ever think of as a potential Scarer! Makes me all the more curious as to how everything went so terribly wrong for him, whether it was a wrong that never got "righted" or just some horrible misunderstanding that never got straightened out. I can see, though, how there could have been at least some initial conflict between him and Mike, as roomies, with Randall being the "Felix Unger" type and Mike being someone who'd see no need of a trash bin when you've got a perfectly good floor. pitbulllady Ahh Adrian Monk, we miss your OC comedy... Homemade luggage huh? Hmm...possibility. Randall's more technical I'd think, but maybe he does have other skills in making just about anything... *folds arms* Well we all know Randall gets to be Top Scarer quality...now that might be determined...by his blending ability more than his knowledge... You know, I wonder how Randall takes to Wazowski getting pulled out of the freshman dorm...I mean the ROR cardign that Randall's wearing in the merchandise worries me...I knew ROR had some hand in what happened to him...
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Post by lizardgirl on Feb 12, 2013 20:14:05 GMT -5
I hate to say it, but the Randall we've seen so far is seemingly quite, well, prissy...Certainly not the quite the rough and ready, willing to get his hands dirty Monster we see in MI. Like you said PBL, there's a definite arty vibe with his stuff, especially the poster- I mean, having a motivational poster is the epitome of prissiness! He seems all delicate and nervous, not macho at all. Someone who has that many pillows is used to a life of comfort and ease. I actually have a friend at university who fits the bill in terms of co-ordinated luggage, tidiness, and so on, and he's about as middle class as you can get and is actually a bit of a snob. (He also has his own high tech coffee machine which I can imagine Randall being quite jealous of...)
Of course, once again, I'm making some assumptions, but this is so different to the Randall we see in MI, who comes across as having a more grounded background. Whatever triggers the change in him must be huge.
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Post by RandallBoggs on Feb 12, 2013 20:20:25 GMT -5
Prissy? 0_0 Hope he doesn't hear that... I think the motivational poster is...well...motivation. Maybe Randall, being timid, isn't well...as confident as he is. MAYBE he IS realistic...more so than Wazowski...and maybe that's a wedge between them. Randall KNOWS Wazowski doesn't have what it takes, he's realistic about it, not delusional... Also, I couldn't help myself tehehe:
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Post by pitbulllady on Feb 12, 2013 20:38:03 GMT -5
I don't get a "prissy" vibe so much as some kid who is such a nerd, so socially-challenged, that he has no clue what is and what is not "cool". He probably is perceived as a "weirdo", though, one of those misfits who is willing to do anything to be accepted by the "cool" kids, if for no other reason than to get people to stop picking on him, and you KNOW that he's going to be bully-bait here, not the bully! Even in the original, Randall's naivete and social awkwardness are still very much in evidence. In all honesty, he reminds me a lot of a couple of my students who have Asperger's. Could be all those pillows indicate he has asthma, as well, since asthmatics(like me)have to sleep on a lot of pillows to help alleviate breathing problems...which really makes thinking about what happened to Randall in MI just terrible.
Here in the US, carrying around your stuff in a cloth bag with a handle is just one step from "hoboing". It's how poor people used to travel, color-coordinated or not.
RB, you absolutely MUST post that "Evil does not come with cupcakes" pic on Pixar Planet!
OMG...just realized some foreshadowing...and I know where I've seen that purple-and-gold pattern! At least some of the gold designs are fleur-de-leis, and gold fleur-de-leis on a purple background are a symbol of New Orleans! I KNEW I'd seen that pattern somewhere!
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Post by RandallBoggs on Feb 12, 2013 20:45:57 GMT -5
As I predicted earlier...I think Randall will be the target of somebody, and I imagine it will be Roar Omega Roar (headed by that purple guy, and the one Sullivan seems to aim to join). His toy has him in their jacket...and Nerds proclaims "there shall be NO NERDS in a JOCK Fraternity!"....so if he gets in...it's only because they're planning to take him down, use him for something, or got him to do something drastic that had repercussions....
I think I've seen it in material related to the jewish...maybe at times during....a certain war. A sort of quick "get up and go" form of baggage at the time compared to the trunk.... And take a look at Wazowski, he's got a back pack, carry-on case...Randall's stuff seems...well it's in good condition but it's also an old way...a lock trunk and a cloth bag...so maybe it isn't richness...maybe he just keeps care of his stuff because he doesn't have much.
Tehehe, I HAD the plan to hm hm. *folds arms* Though I like to think of myself as the olive-branch of the Randall community...but lets just say it'll be brought up if any trouble comes (which shouldn't for obvious reasons, AS STATED (tehe) here, if there is it's called for with this).
fleur-de-leis is there?....wow...it is...that's...yes that is a surprise 0_0
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Post by pitbulllady on Feb 12, 2013 21:25:11 GMT -5
As I predicted earlier...I think Randall will be the target of somebody, and I imagine it will be Roar Omega Roar (headed by that purple guy, and the one Sullivan seems to aim to join). His toy has him in their jacket...and Nerds proclaims "there shall be NO NERDS in a JOCK Fraternity!"....so if he gets in...it's only because they're planning to take him down, use him for something, or got him to do something drastic that had repercussions.... I think I've seen it in material related to the jewish...maybe at times during....a certain war. A sort of quick "get up and go" form of baggage at the time compared to the trunk.... And take a look at Wazowski, he's got a back pack, carry-on case...Randall's stuff seems...well it's in good condition but it's also an old way...a lock trunk and a cloth bag...so maybe it isn't richness...maybe he just keeps care of his stuff because he doesn't have much. Tehehe, I HAD the plan to hm hm. *folds arms* Though I like to think of myself as the olive-branch of the Randall community...but lets just say it'll be brought up if any trouble comes (which shouldn't for obvious reasons, AS STATED (tehe) here, if there is it's called for with this). fleur-de-leis is there?....wow...it is...that's...yes that is a surprise 0_0 I don't get the impression of "rich" from that trunk and that cloth travel bag, either. Those are things I associate with old, maybe heirlooms? But in any case a trunk and bag to hold all of one's earthly belongings, perhaps some connection to his family, a means of quickly escaping with said belongings. That trunk is more like a sea chest, the sort of thing you see pics of the people boarding the Titanic with, all those Irish immigrants hoping for a better life in America. Randall has a duffle bag, a trunk, a bed spread, three pillows, his slippers, a desk calendar and a poster...and apparently nothing else. Mike has his bed clothes, his hat, a LOT of posters and pennants, a rug, a modern backpack, a bunch of books and stuff on his desk, just a lot of stuff in general. Mike puts a lot of value on "stuff", while Randall likes to keep things simple and uncluttered and seems to put more value on tradition. Anyone wanna bet that Randall's "blending" skills were developed as a coping mechanism, a means of escaping when things got too unpleasant? I absolutely agree that his involvement with ROR is due to them using him, making him think that they are letting him in because they like him and think he's got the "right stuff", not so different from what Waternoose was doing to him in the original movie. pitbulllady
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Post by RandallBoggs on Feb 12, 2013 21:31:45 GMT -5
Wasn't blue and purple considered royal colors in some places?
ACTUALLY...I'm unsure if those posters are HIS...I mean I'm not sure if his "Arrival to the room" shot is very close to the Archie bit (probably is since it's their introduction)...but if so...then those posters were on the wall BEFORE Wazowski got there...
I actually...heh...have remarked about that before, guess it went unnoticed. In some ways with teenage angst (or equivalent, considering Randall's youth)...maybe if he doesn't have his blending ability from the start, maybe it develops after the incident(s) we speculate on. I mean his ability obviously makes him a powerful scarer, even at that young (some-what unintimidating) age. So maybe whatever happens...happens, and Randall's just...so upset and distressed about it he just wants to "disappear" and be left alone. So....he DOES. And maybe somebody from the staff (The Dean? Or...and I don't why I'm saying this...Roz?) notice, or maybe he realizes he's got a special gift...and WITH that...he's a more capable scarer than half the students of the university.
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Post by RandallBoggs on Feb 12, 2013 21:35:41 GMT -5
You know, the Scare games may be involved. Randall may not LOOK the athletic type, but we've seen him move. He may not have the physical strength, but he's fast and slight....and he's certainly got the intelligence... *folds arms* You know, I picture Randall having a cry on some steps, and it's raining, and he does his blending thing...and a certain individual with a FANGY-name notices his talent and may get a Dean to put him through the program.
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Post by mintygreen on Feb 13, 2013 0:49:33 GMT -5
Randall also has a TON of pillows on his bed compared to Mike. Reminds me of my bed actually, considering I sleep in a one person sized bed and have 4 pillows on the thing. Anyway it's possible that Randall came from a wealthy family....but something happens and they end up disowning him? In the trailer it looked like Mike and Sulley get into some kind of trouble during the plot of this film...and I wonder if they pin it on Randall somehow? Of course this is a really wild assumption and I don't know if Pixar would make them seem that mean to him. And those cupcakes... a guy who can COOK! Man, oh, man, what I would not give to be able to land THAT catch! pitbulllady My father cooks. Who knows if Randall really baked those though...he could just be passing them around. I wonder what those cupcakes have on them...they look a bit like....hearts? Is it for Valentine's Day or something? Although there is a calender on the wall showing it as being September....so I guess they aren't Valentine's Day cupcakes. They just look like they have hearts on them for some reason. I need to watch this new trailer now. LOL. And I guess they ditched the glasses? I don't get a "prissy" vibe so much as some kid who is such a nerd, so socially-challenged, that he has no clue what is and what is not "cool". He probably is perceived as a "weirdo", though, one of those misfits who is willing to do anything to be accepted by the "cool" kids, if for no other reason than to get people to stop picking on him, and you KNOW that he's going to be bully-bait here, not the bully! Even in the original, Randall's naivete and social awkwardness are still very much in evidence. In all honesty, he reminds me a lot of a couple of my students who have Asperger's. Could be all those pillows indicate he has asthma, as well, since asthmatics(like me)have to sleep on a lot of pillows to help alleviate breathing problems...which really makes thinking about what happened to Randall in MI just terrible. Here in the US, carrying around your stuff in a cloth bag with a handle is just one step from "hoboing". It's how poor people used to travel, color-coordinated or not. RB, you absolutely MUST post that "Evil does not come with cupcakes" pic on Pixar Planet! OMG...just realized some foreshadowing...and I know where I've seen that purple-and-gold pattern! At least some of the gold designs are fleur-de-leis, and gold fleur-de-leis on a purple background are a symbol of New Orleans! I KNEW I'd seen that pattern somewhere! pitbulllady One of my friends has Asperger's.
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Post by mintygreen on Feb 13, 2013 13:19:30 GMT -5
I just want to mention...
There have been some other things released that suggested Mike and Sulley were roommates....like I remember some picture that was released of Sulley on the top bunk, causing it to sink down low, and Mike was on the bottom looking annoyed.
I wonder if something happens that ends up switching who their roommates are at some point in the film?
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Post by RandallBoggs on Feb 13, 2013 18:34:25 GMT -5
Well, as we see, Randall is roommates with Wazowski at the start...and that's in the freshman dorm. The bunk bed room is the one in Ooogma Slugga's fraternity house. (funny how a freshman dorm had a way better room huh? Though it IS Squishy's mom's house so...)
So yes, they are two different rooms. Spare thought...since Wazowski gets kicked out and is with Sullivan...does this mean Randall gets a different roommate?
(Another spare thought. Considering the shift from Randall with the cupcakes to Wazowski on a treadmill, maybe Wazowski was commenting to Randall he was going to lay off on the sweats to "get in shape" to take Sullivan on?)
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Post by pitbulllady on Feb 13, 2013 21:36:12 GMT -5
I actually saw a kid in the hallways today who had on a hoodie with that EXACT same pattern as Randall's luggage, a combination of plain fleur-de-lis and rows of fleur-de-lis surrounded by this sort of filigree circle(the bigger ones in the pattern), but the background was a sort of liver brown. When I asked, he said the hoodie came from Citi Trends and USED to be purple, but his dad washed it one day and put in bleach, not knowing that you DO NOT use bleach on dark colors(sounds like something a lot of men would do), so the color got messed up. I saw that pattern a LOT when I was in New Orleans, as it's pretty much "official" swag in the Big Easy. Maybe Randall had a fascination with that city, as I do, in spite of not being from there, which would kinda be ironic in a messed-up sorta way considering what happened to him. I'm wondering if maybe HE was the one who "turned on" Mike to jazz music, since we know that at least one of them, either Mike or Sulley, was a jazz fan in the original movie, based on all those jazz posters. One thing that's always struck me about Randall is that he marches to his own drummer, so to speak. He likes what he likes and doesn't follow trends, which has probably always made him an outsider. He'd be less likely to jump all over some form of very popular music just because everyone else liked it and more likely to stick with a genre that most of the younger monsters in college found "uncool" or odd.
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Post by RandallBoggs on Feb 13, 2013 21:56:39 GMT -5
Dang stormy weather...
Ah own drum marcher...innovator, retro heh heh. Hopefully will see that.
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