Beboots
Randall's Head Servant (300-799)
Now, if you'll excuse me, there's a plague in Equatorial Guinea that I have to attend.
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Post by Beboots on Aug 11, 2005 13:52:23 GMT -5
Man, why do I always jump in late to these conversations? Well, there's not much more for me to say but that I agree with Pitbulllady on pretty much all of her points. I think a lot of people forget, while watching movies, that many of the characters don't know everything that the audience knows - the audience has a sort of omniprescent view of the situation, and so usually, the audience knows way more than the individual characters do. But those watching seem to have a mindset (whether it's unconsious, or whatever) that whatever they know, the characters know (because hey, it's their movie, right?).
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Post by RandallBoggs on Aug 11, 2005 13:58:58 GMT -5
"Hmm....maybe that's what people mean when they say they think someone is watching them...hmm..."
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Post by lizardgirl on Aug 11, 2005 15:33:18 GMT -5
I think a lot of people forget, while watching movies, that many of the characters don't know everything that the audience knows - the audience has a sort of omniprescent view of the situation, and so usually, the audience knows way more than the individual characters do. But those watching seem to have a mindset (whether it's unconsious, or whatever) that whatever they know, the characters know (because hey, it's their movie, right?). Exactly. And hey, the whole movie would have been VERY different if Randall had known what the audience knew. |
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Post by pitbulllady on Aug 11, 2005 19:15:21 GMT -5
As an adendum(my last post on this topic was written very early in the morning, and I was pushed for time since I had early am bus duty), it was not until the end of the movie that the CDA had ANY "evidence against Randall". Waternoose had done a really great job of ensuring that his little project and all involved was a well-kept secret. The CDA knew SOMETHING illegal was going on, probably having been tipped off to missing parts of machinery around the factory or rumors involving human children being brought in, but they apparently had no actual suspects. IF Randall had even been a suspect, the CDA would not have merely been satisfied to question him in the hallway; they would have taken him into custody for much more intensive questioning, as this is standard law-enforcement procedure. It was only after learning of the extent of WATERNOOSE'S involvement that they would have known of Randall's, and the CDA didn't even learn of HIS role until Mike got him on tape confessing his plot to Sulley in the Simulation Room.
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Post by pitbulllady on Aug 11, 2005 19:34:03 GMT -5
Exactly. And hey, the whole movie would have been VERY different if Randall had known what the audience knew.[/quote]
I used this analogy once on the old board; it still makes sense.
Suppose you know two individuals at school or work, and these two just seem "out to get you". They are always being picked for special treatment over you, always getting awards that you feel or KNOW you should have gotten, at least some of the time, AND one of them never wastes an opportunity to rub this fact in your face. Then, one day, word gets out that someone has brought a rattlesnake to school/work, and released it in the building. Most people are going to be understandably nervous about this situation, to say the least. THEN, you discover those two individuals who have been giving you such a rough time, AND they have the rattlesnake with them, despite the fact that neither of them has every shown any inclination towards liking snakes, and highly-venomous ones at that, prior to this. On top of this, they have put something on the snake, somehow, that makes it have some resemblence to YOU-something like your favorite clothes or your hair style or a sticker with your name on it, or whatever-something that others would associate with you. Now, given how MOST people feel about rattlesnakes, are you going to assume that they have the snake with them because they love it and are trying to protect it? Are you going to assume that they have put something on it that most people in the place would associate with YOU because that was all they had handy at home for disguising a rattlesnake, especially if you have reason to assume that these two people would love nothing more than to see you get in big trouble? Of course NOT, not if you have more than two brain cells! This is the situation Randall found himself in-two individuals that he'd had some conflict with in the past, at least one of which had taunted him with beating him to the All-Time Scare Record,and of course with Randall out of the picture, they wouldn't even have any competition, now would they, so they'd have motive, at least in Randall's eyes, right there, to get rid of him-and these two are carrying a "creature" that is widely believed to be very dangerous. Bringing it in and getting caught would be the equivalent of bringing a live rattlesnake, or a bomb, to school or work. Not only that, but they've dressed this creature in purple, scaly costuming, with big sharp teeth, and there is only ONE individual in that entire factory who is purple and scaly with big sharp teeth, so if anyone sees it dressed like that, it's no small leap of logic to conclude that Randall must have somethingn to do with it being there.
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Post by lizardgirl on Aug 12, 2005 10:05:46 GMT -5
Exactly!
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Post by RandallBoggs on Aug 12, 2005 10:45:29 GMT -5
Well actually....
Randall should consider himself lucky. Since....most of the C.D.A. DO NOT...go by procedure....heh heh...then again....they were with Waternoose to begin with....OOPS! Sorry....bad self....don't reveal...bad self...
"......Sometimes I wonder.....You know...."
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Weasel Freak
Randall's Skivvy (0-299)
Revenge, is so very very sweet..
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Post by Weasel Freak on Aug 14, 2008 22:36:00 GMT -5
"What is with you today Greenstars!? Hey! I didn't want to hurt the kid alright! Heck...if I was in the same position, I get why she was so scared of me ok! I wasn't annoyed. Sure. I wanted to get this thing over with. But it's not like I didn't care about the kid! I spent the ENTIRE night looking for her! Do you even think that for ONE moment I cared!? OF COURSE I DID!!!!!!!!" Jeez....Ran... "What? I'm not a Heartless ok....and personally I'm taking Greenstar's post as an insult" The Heartless are cool! How dare you! *whacks 'Randall' on the head**gives him ice* Anyways... What were we talking about? |
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