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Post by pitbulllady on Jun 7, 2013 20:32:19 GMT -5
Found a link to this on Tumblr-a fan-made video apparently, but a good one, which includes some clips I have not seen before now, including one of Randall actually climbing into that chair in the auditorium, where we actually DO get to hear this precious darling say, "I'm so NERVOUS" Also a clip of both Art and Johnny in the Scare Simulator, and I know it's weird, but there's something disturbingly hot about that predatory way Johnny drops to all-fours and somehow manages to slink across the floor like that, in spite of his size and bulk, and I am trying really hard not to like this guy, knowing what he does later, but man....NO he cannot top Randall in THAT dept. but this was pretty amazing to watch. But Randall, oh man, I could just watch him get into that chair over and over...
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Post by RandallBoggs on Jun 7, 2013 20:33:07 GMT -5
You got me by seconds PBL hehehe. It's awesome that they actually SHOW Randall getting in the chair (we know he wasn't in the seat at first, then was, but they could have just edited it out, but GOOD that they do)...and it's great that they show that that nervous line WAS his. Just look at the little guy ^0^ Looking to a friend for assurance, but glancing to the professor so he knows he's paying attention and isn't speaking too loud, and his little lower hands doing a little vertical roundabout of nervousness...how could ya NOT love that? ...Randall aside...I know this is cut to an actual person...but if you notice, the screen when it first comes up...look at the right side there. It's...a scoreboard. The one used in the finales for Oozma Kappa and ROR. Now...I HAVE seen a pic of the scores WITH the scare rates on them in a different book (it actually...well it's a spoiler.)...but as said, it's a spoiler of a kind. Anyway, what I'm getting to is...IS what this cut-in-real screen is doing. Is it just plastered over some blank wall OR is it cut into an actual screen that, in the actual film, is showing something else? I mean jeez...if this screen...shows what's going on IN the simulator for the finale...then...well for those who know the reason, it's just icing on the cake...jeez.
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Post by TheOnePistol on Jun 7, 2013 21:10:48 GMT -5
I like Randalls hand motions, you can really tell he's nervous. lol
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Post by pitbulllady on Jun 7, 2013 21:18:14 GMT -5
I know. Randall here is just the most adorable thing I've ever seen, so vulnerable...I just want to hug him and hold him and let him know it's ok! It's sad to think about what sort of things he must have been through to make him this scared and insecure. He's still beautiful, though, there's just no other word for it. I love the motion as he gets in that chair and curls around himself like a cat.
And I think that Johnny is going to wind up being the REAL "Draco in Leather Pants" of this movie, seriously. I mean, he's even from a rich, well-to-do family, and he thinks he's entitled to treat the "peasantry" like crap because of it.
I don't know what's funnier about this clip, Art with his dance moves and wrist bands trying to be scary, or Don with that dang "Yooper" accent of his in the tree, saying, "I cannot gidDOWN!" I'm very convinced now that MU is located in the Monster World's Michigan.
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Post by boggs22 on Jun 7, 2013 22:43:27 GMT -5
Awe! He looks so nervous! I can't wait to see the entire thing. I laughed at Sully 'Can I borrow a pencil'...sounds like me at school haha
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Post by CrazyDiamond on Jun 8, 2013 3:59:40 GMT -5
Enjoy this GIF version:
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Post by yiny on Jun 8, 2013 5:55:05 GMT -5
You made my day....*.*....I can't stop watching this XD thanks ლ(◕ . ◕ლ)
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Post by pitbulllady on Jun 8, 2013 12:46:49 GMT -5
That movement, it's just so fluid and smooth and lovely to watch, but watching his face is rather sad. There's such a powerful undercurrent of "please don't hurt me" there. He glances around to see if anyone is acting in a threatening manner or is making fun of him, agonizingly self-conscious, relying on Mike(whom he has only known for a day or so)as an emotional anchor. What must this guy have been through to make him like that, at such a young age? I went through a pretty rough childhood myself, but in college I was nothing like this; I was more like Mike. I didn't experience that sort of panic/anxiety issue that Randall is clearly afflicted with until I was in my late 20's, about the same age he was in MI, and it was due to what I was going through at work, combined with one particular traumatic experience that had left me with PTSD, something I was not even aware of.
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Post by TheOnePistol on Jun 8, 2013 13:19:46 GMT -5
Well at least we know that he in fact does NOT have any trouble sitting in a chair, considering how fluid and smooth he climbs up and sits. lol Buscemi was right on the money when he said "This is not the Randall we know form Monsters Inc", he's exactly the opposite! xD
If they were to do a sequel, I can really see them doing a split personality thing where the two sides of him "Randy and Randall" are fighting each other for dominance.
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Post by doodlebug on Jun 8, 2013 13:40:21 GMT -5
That movement, it's just so fluid and smooth and lovely to watch, but watching his face is rather sad. There's such a powerful undercurrent of "please don't hurt me" there. He glances around to see if anyone is acting in a threatening manner or is making fun of him, agonizingly self-conscious, relying on Mike(whom he has only known for a day or so)as an emotional anchor. What must this guy have been through to make him like that, at such a young age? I went through a pretty rough childhood myself, but in college I was nothing like this; I was more like Mike. I didn't experience that sort of panic/anxiety issue that Randall is clearly afflicted with until I was in my late 20's, about the same age he was in MI, and it was due to what I was going through at work, combined with one particular traumatic experience that had left me with PTSD, something I was not even aware of. pitbulllady It's an interesting point, Randall may very well have had a traumatic experience or a bad time in childhood, but there are also people who are just very anxious/nervous by nature, I know because I was at that age, and still am one really! I recognise the body language very well, being self conscious to the extreme makes it easy to pick it up in others, and also because you're just very aware of other people generally. Although I still won't contend the idea that Randall had a bad experience growing up, it may be that all of us naturally (?) very anxious people have had an event in young life which we've maybe blocked out and forgotten, but not enough to let us grow up without these issues. But ahhh this clip! I can't stop watching it! So beautiful!
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Post by lizardgirl on Jun 8, 2013 15:21:23 GMT -5
Oh, Randall...So beautiful. I could watch that GIF all day.
As for his nervous disposition, doodlebug is right; some people are naturally nervous- I know I am. In fact, I have my own version of the hand thing that Randall does in that clip, haha. So he could simply be a anxious person, although such dispositions can of course have a root in some sort of negative experience, and I wouldn't be surprised if Randall had a bit of a tough childhood, and that combined with a slight predisposition to being nervous, that could lead to the worried college student we see here.
Although Randy is very different to Randall, his complete and utter lack of self-confidence works well with his change in MI; in fact, if there's one trait that seems to be pretty enduring throughout his life, it's a low self-esteem and lack of any confidence whatsoever. Randall might be braggy in MI, but as we've discussed before, that's more to do with him trying to convince both everyone around him about how amazing he is, in a bid to convince himself that it's actually true. So he essentially changes tact in trying to deal with his confidence issues, but as we know it doesn't work either way. It's like he just internalises his problems, going from one extreme (telling even people he's only really just met how nervous he is and showing signs of weakness) to another (refusing to show any signs of weakness whatsoever and talking about how great he is).
Just a bit of a random ramble there, but I just love how Pixar have managed to change his character so much to show development over time, and yet on the other hand, with a bit of consideration, it's possible to see how the two relate.
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Post by pitbulllady on Jun 8, 2013 17:22:07 GMT -5
Oh, Randall...So beautiful. I could watch that GIF all day. As for his nervous disposition, doodlebug is right; some people are naturally nervous- I know I am. In fact, I have my own version of the hand thing that Randall does in that clip, haha. So he could simply be a anxious person, although such dispositions can of course have a root in some sort of negative experience, and I wouldn't be surprised if Randall had a bit of a tough childhood, and that combined with a slight predisposition to being nervous, that could lead to the worried college student we see here. Although Randy is very different to Randall, his complete and utter lack of self-confidence works well with his change in MI; in fact, if there's one trait that seems to be pretty enduring throughout his life, it's a low self-esteem and lack of any confidence whatsoever. Randall might be braggy in MI, but as we've discussed before, that's more to do with him trying to convince both everyone around him about how amazing he is, in a bid to convince himself that it's actually true. So he essentially changes tact in trying to deal with his confidence issues, but as we know it doesn't work either way. It's like he just internalises his problems, going from one extreme (telling even people he's only really just met how nervous he is and showing signs of weakness) to another (refusing to show any signs of weakness whatsoever and talking about how great he is). Just a bit of a random ramble there, but I just love how Pixar have managed to change his character so much to show development over time, and yet on the other hand, with a bit of consideration, it's possible to see how the two relate. You can definitely see how the two situations relate, that "Randy" and "Randall" are NOT two distinct personalities at all, but simply manifestations of the same. What we see in MI is a survival mechanism, a last-ditch effort by his Ego to salvage itself from self-destruction. I don't really recall Randall ever saying how great he was, though, in MI. He IS delusional that he will get rewarded handsomely for building that machine, as he indicates to Mike, which, when you think about it, seems to show that he is STILL trying to confide in Mike and trust him to some degree. Randall never actually says that he's great, or that he's even better than anyone else, except for ONE time, when Sulley offers that handshake and says, "may the best monster win", and Randall responds coldly with, "I PLAN to." I never took his words in the locker room, when he says he's gonna be "doin' some serious scarin'" and "puttin' up some impressive numbers" as bragging or trying to say he was better than anyone else. It was just a statement of what he was being paid to do, after all, like a football player "psyching" himself up before the big game with a little self pep-talk. All things considered, Randall's numbers WERE impressive and he WAS doing some serious scaring, so he wasn't making hollow promises there or saying anything that was not true, that he could have "backed up" with actions. pitbulllady
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Post by lizardgirl on Jun 8, 2013 18:08:59 GMT -5
You can definitely see how the two situations relate, that "Randy" and "Randall" are NOT two distinct personalities at all, but simply manifestations of the same. What we see in MI is a survival mechanism, a last-ditch effort by his Ego to salvage itself from self-destruction. I don't really recall Randall ever saying how great he was, though, in MI. He IS delusional that he will get rewarded handsomely for building that machine, as he indicates to Mike, which, when you think about it, seems to show that he is STILL trying to confide in Mike and trust him to some degree. Randall never actually says that he's great, or that he's even better than anyone else, except for ONE time, when Sulley offers that handshake and says, "may the best monster win", and Randall responds coldly with, "I PLAN to." I never took his words in the locker room, when he says he's gonna be "doin' some serious scarin'" and "puttin' up some impressive numbers" as bragging or trying to say he was better than anyone else. It was just a statement of what he was being paid to do, after all, like a football player "psyching" himself up before the big game with a little self pep-talk. All things considered, Randall's numbers WERE impressive and he WAS doing some serious scaring, so he wasn't making hollow promises there or saying anything that was not true, that he could have "backed up" with actions. pitbulllady I don't see the locker room scene as entirely the same as a footballer trying to psych themselves up before a big game; to a certain extent, maybe, but it's very much directed at Mike and Sulley in a bid to intimidate them. Sure, what he was saying was true, but you can be braggy about something without necessarily exaggerating- I'd still find it boastful if someone said they'd done great on a test even if they'd genuinely done really well. And I do think there's an air of arrogance when Randall says "I plan to"; not genuine arrogance, because as I said before, he himself is not convinced of his abilities, but it was an arrogant reply ultimately. And yes, those are the only two occasions where Randall comes across as boastful but considering how little screen time he has it's not like there are lots of chances for that to be conveyed. But I do agree that he's almost half-hearted with it, that he says things like how great he's going to do to make himself feel better more than anything, and even just that is a pretty radical difference to how he comes across in MU- he never would have talked about the numbers he's going to rack up back when he was a student! Randall's 'arrogance' or the times when he's 'boastful' pale in comparison to Mike's pure, unadulterated arrogance that we seem to see both in MU and in MI, and the same can be said of Sulley's arrogance in MU. So to be fair to him, Randall isn't that bad at all in these aspects. But especially in comparing him in MU and MI, he does develop much more of a 'boastful' nature which he seems to use to prop himself up and convince himself that everything's going to be okay. That was always my interpretation, anyway.
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Post by RandallBoggs on Jun 8, 2013 18:56:03 GMT -5
Yeah, seems...schools in the monster world have very accommodating chairs, though it seems they are generally oversize. As we see, Randall and Wazowski have something breathing room while the others seem...squished. So guessing he, thankfully, enjoys a lot of space for whatever chair he gets into.
I have remarked on this before Pistol, as one of the ideas for the direction with Randall's story in the sequel I'm working on. At first it was a dominance thing...then it turned into "Randy" being a hallucination of sorts...which can actually be funny for the audience (sad as it still is). But the thing is...Randall is still both those people. He's a kind soul, but he's also a fighter. Finding the balance is the key. === Considering the reaction, as me and PBL had detailed, when he first blends from surprise...it's pretty likely his childhood was tough, and that something may have happened. People can be naturally nervous...but Randall's over-kindness may be compensating a balance in his view of the world to "make things better"...as in making things better due to his own experience of something (or multiple somethings) really bad that happened to him.
One thing other people (outside the core of his fandom) forget, is that this is set 10 years ago. A LOT can happen in those years. Pixar did us (and him) right by showing him this way, because that's honestly who he was. He was a good person, got screwed over by life, and figured he had to change. He hung on, but got screwed again, leading up to an inevitable snap. === At the very least, Ran may have thought "whatever's on the other side HAS to be better". The thing about the "I plan to" line...for one...Randall was Top Scarer before Sullivan even took a step onto the Scarefloor. And given what happens in MU...well...in the end Randall IS better, and he knows it. And it's true. He is the better scarer. But, things came to the point where everybody around him was saying Sullivan was, but Randall knew it wasn't true, probably leading to his reputation falling. He's dang good at his job. Heck, sleep deprived AND probably sick, he was STILL matching up to Sullivan's "big numbers". I still believe, like others, those numbers were tampered with. Sullivan's a great scarer, but so is Randall, and he got the headline. ===
Now to RANDALL, Sullivan's "may the best monster win" may have been arrogant itself. Randall KNEW he was the best, and he had proved it for the past several years to try and rebuild his self-esteem. But then Sullivan takes his position, somehow, and Randall's been trying to figure out how.
Now...this is going to be something I'm going into in the Series, but I'll say it to make the point. Randall has NO real idea that Sullivan's changed for the better. The only image he has of Sullivan is the SAME jerk he saw in college. The same jerk that was a show-off, that was arrogant, and that was Mr. Popular. The same jerk that SOMEHOW his former roommate, who once hated the blue behemoth, was now chummy with. Randall is unaware of Sullivan's change of heart and all that happened between him and Wazowski. Of course, the end of the Scare Games, for reasons show in MU, also influenced Randall's perception on Sullivan. So as far as Randall was concerned, that "may the best monster win" may have been a genuinely arrogant. It may not have been a serious "old wound" Randall was still reeling from, but to him, Sullivan may have been trying to push his buttons. As we know, Sullivan wasn't... It's...all really...a big misunderstanding for everybody. Randall has this unchanged (because of what HE went through and being absent from the events) view of Sullivan...and Sullivan doesn't KNOW what Randall's been through and what his OWN actions have done.
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Post by pitbulllady on Jun 8, 2013 20:05:45 GMT -5
Yeah, seems...schools in the monster world have very accommodating chairs, though it seems they are generally oversize. As we see, Randall and Wazowski have something breathing room while the others seem...squished. So guessing he, thankfully, enjoys a lot of space for whatever chair he gets into. I have remarked on this before Pistol, as one of the ideas for the direction with Randall's story in the sequel I'm working on. At first it was a dominance thing...then it turned into "Randy" being a hallucination of sorts...which can actually be funny for the audience (sad as it still is). But the thing is...Randall is still both those people. He's a kind soul, but he's also a fighter. Finding the balance is the key. === Considering the reaction, as me and PBL had detailed, when he first blends from surprise...it's pretty likely his childhood was tough, and that something may have happened. People can be naturally nervous...but Randall's over-kindness may be compensating a balance in his view of the world to "make things better"...as in making things better due to his own experience of something (or multiple somethings) really bad that happened to him. One thing other people (outside the core of his fandom) forget, is that this is set 10 years ago. A LOT can happen in those years. Pixar did us (and him) right by showing him this way, because that's honestly who he was. He was a good person, got screwed over by life, and figured he had to change. He hung on, but got screwed again, leading up to an inevitable snap. === At the very least, Ran may have thought "whatever's on the other side HAS to be better". The thing about the "I plan to" line...for one...Randall was Top Scarer before Sullivan even took a step onto the Scarefloor. And given what happens in MU...well...in the end Randall IS better, and he knows it. And it's true. He is the better scarer. But, things came to the point where everybody around him was saying Sullivan was, but Randall knew it wasn't true, probably leading to his reputation falling. He's dang good at his job. Heck, sleep deprived AND probably sick, he was STILL matching up to Sullivan's "big numbers". I still believe, like others, those numbers were tampered with. Sullivan's a great scarer, but so is Randall, and he got the headline. === Now to RANDALL, Sullivan's "may the best monster win" may have been arrogant itself. Randall KNEW he was the best, and he had proved it for the past several years to try and rebuild his self-esteem. But then Sullivan takes his position, somehow, and Randall's been trying to figure out how. Now...this is going to be something I'm going into in the Series, but I'll say it to make the point. Randall has NO real idea that Sullivan's changed for the better. The only image he has of Sullivan is the SAME jerk he saw in college. The same jerk that was a show-off, that was arrogant, and that was Mr. Popular. The same jerk that SOMEHOW his former roommate, who once hated the blue behemoth, was now chummy with. Randall is unaware of Sullivan's change of heart and all that happened between him and Wazowski. Of course, the end of the Scare Games, for reasons show in MU, also influenced Randall's perception on Sullivan. So as far as Randall was concerned, that "may the best monster win" may have been a genuinely arrogant. It may not have been a serious "old wound" Randall was still reeling from, but to him, Sullivan may have been trying to push his buttons. As we know, Sullivan wasn't... It's...all really...a big misunderstanding for everybody. Randall has this unchanged (because of what HE went through and being absent from the events) view of Sullivan...and Sullivan doesn't KNOW what Randall's been through and what his OWN actions have done. Well, given what Sulley does in MU, Randall has EVERY reason to suspect that Sulley's success has not been entirely honestly earned! He just thinks that Sulley is actually at fault, when it's really someone else tampering with the numbers behind the scenes and making sure that Sulley gets chosen as "Employee of the Month", for month after month, etc. I've already posted the odds of Sulley actually doing that, based only on the number of SCARERS, not even including all the other employees at that factory because their numbers aren't known, and it exceeds the odds for winning the biggest Power Ball Jackpot lottery in the US! There is NO WAY anyone will ever convince me that Sulley was just that darn good at his job and there was no one(*cough* Waternoose *cough*)pulling some strings behind the scenes! If *I* had worked there, even in a capacity other than Scarer, I'd be PO'd as hell if ONE person out of thousands of employees kept getting "Employee of the Month" for 11 months straight! The thing with Randall, though, is that his true nature is not to "rock the boat", not to be confrontational at all, and once he'd had the chance to work up close and personal with the CEO, knowing how fond Waternoose was of Sulley, Randall probably figured out that it might not be in the interest of his health to complain TOO much. Still, it's hard for me to fathom that out of all those other employees, Randall was the only one who had an issue with Sullivan's unprecedented "success". Either there were others that we just don't see or hear from in the movie, or that factory employed some of the stupidest bunch of morons in the entire Monster World!
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