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Post by pitbulllady on May 24, 2013 21:21:46 GMT -5
Got a chance to check out the MU stuff-what tiny little bit there is-at two area Wal-Marts, a Target and a Toys R Us today, and was still highly disappointed by the lack of MU merchandise. NO Randall stuff at any place, and one Wal-Mart of the two had no MU stuff, period! It's really aggravating that stores in the South tend to be dead-last to get new merchandise, often after the movie it's connected to has left theaters, IF then.
I DID find some books, though, at Target, including the Jr. Novelization and the Essential Guide, which I bought, and I got to look through a lot of the other books, including the "Monsters Inc. Storybook Collection" and the "MU Fear Book", so I'm passing along some observations first on the latter two, which I did NOT buy.
First, the "Fear Book", which is supposed to look like Mike's college yearbook, complete with signatures from various classmates to Mike. Two things I found disturbing about this; there are a LOT of messages from various peers, including JOHNNY(who affectionately refers to Mike as "Killer", for some reason) and Chet, who clearly is not the sharpest tack in the toolbox-no surprise there. But guess who is missing? There's no Randy message, nothing at all from the guy who was Mike's first best pal, who said they'd be "best of chums", and I found that sad. Even sadder, in that section where they name the "Most Likely to...", Randall was voted "Most Likely to DISAPPEAR". Now, I know that's supposed to be a jokey reference to his ability, but considering what happened to him, BECAUSE of his "best chum", it's just sad.
Now, onto the "Monsters, Inc. Storybook Collection", which is a collection of short stories that are set at MU, pre-MI, and post-MI, as well as the same storybook version of MI. There is NO mention of Randall AT ALL in any of the MU stories, NONE. There is ONE story that includes Randall set after he went to work at MI, before the events of the movie, and it's totally stupid. There's a parade in town, and each Scare Team has to build a float to put in the parade. Mike and Sulley are chosen by Waternoose(of course, and he is SUCH a dear, good person)to lead the parade since they are in the lead in Scaring(my butt!), but when it comes time to start the parade, their float won't move. It's out of GAS. Yes, GAS, NOT Scream! So along comes Randall, whose float is simply a bunch of full-length mirrors so he can stand in front of them and pose and preen and blow kisses to the audience like some prissy Hollywood type-I mean, SERIOUSLY, DISNEY?! He volunteers to lead the parade since Sulley's float won't start, but when Mike and Sulley go to check their float closer, they find three-toed footprints-Randall's-leading to and from the gas tank. Seems he siphoned off their fuel. So as Randall is posing and admiring himself in the mirrors, Sulley roars and startles him, causing him to stop, and everyone laughs because they think it's part of an act, and in the end, the audience cheers everyone's floats, even Randall's.
Now, HERE is where it gets interesting, and some of you might already know about this. I know One Pistol and Minty know. There's a post-MI story in which Mike and Sulley have to keep the factory's day care because the day care worker is sick, so they show up to care for all the little monster kiddies. Little Smitty is still there, but guess what? FUNGUS has a KID, named after HIM! Looks NOTHING like him, though. And it gets MORE interesting! There is an adorable little guy named "Rex", who is reptilian, has eight limbs, a mouthful of sharp teeth, bright green eyes, can become invisible(very helpful when playing "hide and seek"), has a prehensile tail, is orange with a red tail, and a single "frond" on top of his head. Rex is identified as "Randall's NEPHEW", people, which means that Randall has a sibling who STILL WORKS AT MI, for the same guy who HELPED LYNCH HIS/HER BROTHER! Now, how EFFED-UP is THAT? We are not told if Rex's last name is Boggs or not, so we do not know if his parent is Randall's sister or brother, but there is a definite family resemblance. I mean, I guess the sibling was either lied to about what happened to Randall, or doesn't give a rat's rectum about him. I thought about the possibility that Randall might have actually returned and is working there again in some capacity and has custody of this kid, but there are a LOT of other post-MI stories, and there's no mention of Randall at all, no glimpse of him, nothing, so I have to conclude that he's gone. That is just so sad. Mike and Sulley do not react to the kid one way or the other, btw.
On a somewhat lighter note, in the "Essential Guide", it is revealed that Randall's eyes DO reflect light like a cat's, so while he's nearsighted as all get-out, he can see in the dark quite well. Here is how the Guide introduces him: "This snaky Scarer has everything it takes to be properly petrifying, but he is too sweet-natured at first to realize it." Awwww...so y'all had to go and torment him and and humiliate him over and over and drive him to the brink of sanity so you could justify killing him, huh, Pixar? PIXAR HAS TO FIX THIS!!
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Post by RandallBoggs on May 24, 2013 21:25:53 GMT -5
*rubs temple* I knew about everything aside from the Fear Book.
Actually, remy was the one to inform about the Storybook collection, but I asked that he delay the information until I was able to look myself. Thankfully, those on the other board didn't post about the whole "nephew" thing, which is a saving grace.
I'll get back to this topic in a moment.
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Post by RandallBoggs on May 24, 2013 21:36:40 GMT -5
"Killer" isn't an affectionate term...it's an insult along with "beach ball" that Johnny uses on Wazowski.
Makes sense Randall didn't sign...considering he.......well that's something else. As for "likely to disappear" it seems THAT is ironic in both the MI sense...and what he does after his year in MU.
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As said, remy was the first about storybook, so technically credit goes to him.
Actually Randall's only in one thing in the MU. The shot of him sitting beside Wazowski. But other than that, yep, nothing at all.
Considering Scream is electrical...
*rubs temple* As I've discussed with a good friend, this is one of the reasons why the Storybook shouldn't be taken as gospel. Randall is NOT that superficial and egotistic. Also, HIM getting scared by Sullivan? No heh...Randall was a veteran in the job before Sullivan even stepped on the scarefloor.
It does surprise me that they give him fair-share and no "let's wreck his float!" end...
*nods* Glad you noticed that too, about Fungus Jr. I saw it in the text and I was like "who is it talking about??". Then using the text to find the appropriate kid....NO. That is no where near Fungus at all.
As said with the above, book's not gospel.
Randall...wouldn't have a nephew. And Sullivan and Wazowski would NOT act as they did. I mean his nephew? Really? That doesn't make Wazowski feel the LEAST bit awkward (not regretful mind you, awkward as in he'd avoid anyone in relation to Randall)? And it does NOTHING at all to Sullivan? No way in heck. Sullivan would be guilty or try to avoid his little distraction, not play along as if nothing bothered him. To me, the story is just for entertainment, it's not in any way fact.
Oh, by the way...to remind...this daycare thing happens AFTER MI. Sullivan is CEO, Randall is gone (later on in a different story, he's blamed by Wazowski as a prank culprit (but it's not him, he "hasn't returned").
*nods* A reason he's a good scarer. Despite his eye condition, how they are are perfect for those night scares.
The statement really says he has everything in him to be a scarer, but his nature goes against it. Funny how life gives you what you want, but that you had to destroy part of yourself.
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Post by pitbulllady on May 24, 2013 21:37:46 GMT -5
*rubs temple* I knew about everything aside from the Fear Book. Actually, remy was the one to inform about the Storybook collection, but I asked that he delay the information until I was able to look myself. Thankfully, those on the other board didn't post about the whole "nephew" thing, which is a saving grace. I'll get back to this topic in a moment. If by the "other board", you mean the Winds of Change Board, yes, there is, and has been, an entire thread about "Rex". pitbulllady |
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Post by RandallBoggs on May 24, 2013 21:39:53 GMT -5
*nods* Yes. As said, remy was the one who told me about this. Either he knew himself or from a friend (I can't remember), it's thanks to him that I was made aware of it.
I asked him not to post the info as I had to confirm things myself on this issue, considering what was being shown.
Thankfully, had nothing to worry about. In the end, the Storybook is just a funny collection, nothing to take as fact.
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Post by pitbulllady on May 24, 2013 22:00:38 GMT -5
*nods* Yes. As said, remy was the one who told me about this. Either he knew himself or from a friend (I can't remember), it's thanks to him that I was made aware of it. I asked him not to post the info as I had to confirm things myself on this issue, considering what was being shown. Thankfully, had nothing to worry about. In the end, the Storybook is just a funny collection, nothing to take as fact. Yeah, that story about the parade is pretty much proof of THAT! I mean, even in the context of "Randall is evil" that Disney has been trying to shove down our throats for so long, he is still WAY OOC in that story! Also, in the Day Scare story, Fungus's kid looks more like Waxford, but let's keep in mind that he would NOT be called "Fungus, Jr.", because Fungus is the LAST name! IF he was a Jr. he'd be "Jeffrey, Jr."! But that pic of Randall with the light reflecting green in his pupils, like a cat's, is pretty darn awesome! pitbulllady |
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Post by RandallBoggs on May 24, 2013 22:04:38 GMT -5
*nods*
I mean...the gas thing is tame. Least they didn't portray him as slashing the tires or...wrecking the float...or even (for disaster's sake), cutting the breaks. But the mirrors...getting scared? No that's...that's not right.
*shrugs* James P. Sullivan is referred to as "Jimmy" in the novelization (get to reading that yet? Spoilers galore). Toss a grain of sand, they're going to foul up with names.
The dark one? Yes hehehe, that's good. I'm familiar with cats too, they can be VERY perceptive at night. Have them in one room, turn the light on in the next, and they'd start meowing because they KNOW your there. (For those part siameze)
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Post by pitbulllady on May 24, 2013 23:07:30 GMT -5
*nods* I mean...the gas thing is tame. Least they didn't portray him as slashing the tires or...wrecking the float...or even (for disaster's sake), cutting the breaks. But the mirrors...getting scared? No that's...that's not right. *shrugs* James P. Sullivan is referred to as "Jimmy" in the novelization (get to reading that yet? Spoilers galore). Toss a grain of sand, they're going to foul up with names. The dark one? Yes hehehe, that's good. I'm familiar with cats too, they can be VERY perceptive at night. Have them in one room, turn the light on in the next, and they'd start meowing because they KNOW your there. (For those part siameze) I wonder if Sullivan will refer to himself as "Jimmy" in the movie. Kinda ironic that my LEAST favorite NASCAR driver is Jimmy Johnson, whom I've often referred to as the "James P. Sullivan of NASCAR", since the guy who owns his race team is partnered with the guy who owns NASCAR, period, as well as Charlotte Motor Speedway...and Johnson has been Champion for five out of the last seven years and is in the lead in championship points again this year. And then THIS happened:  Yeah, it's real, and yeah, that's Jimmy Johnson's car. Tony Stewart needs to totally put Randall on his No. 14, Underdogs of the Year, Hoosier Bro's through and through. But here is the "dark" pic, to which RB is referring; now y'all TELL me this ain't bada$$! Reminds me of that pic I did a few years back of Randall entering a child's room via the closet door, with the light reflecting in his eyes, though I really wasn't sure if Randall's eyes could do that or not. Guess I know now that they can! Behold!  pitbulllady |
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Post by mintygreen on May 24, 2013 23:16:15 GMT -5
Got a chance to check out the MU stuff-what tiny little bit there is-at two area Wal-Marts, a Target and a Toys R Us today, and was still highly disappointed by the lack of MU merchandise. NO Randall stuff at any place, and one Wal-Mart of the two had no MU stuff, period! It's really aggravating that stores in the South tend to be dead-last to get new merchandise, often after the movie it's connected to has left theaters, IF then. I DID find some books, though, at Target, including the Jr. Novelization and the Essential Guide, which I bought, and I got to look through a lot of the other books, including the "Monsters Inc. Storybook Collection" and the "MU Fear Book", so I'm passing along some observations first on the latter two, which I did NOT buy. First, the "Fear Book", which is supposed to look like Mike's college yearbook, complete with signatures from various classmates to Mike. Two things I found disturbing about this; there are a LOT of messages from various peers, including JOHNNY(who affectionately refers to Mike as "Killer", for some reason) and Chet, who clearly is not the sharpest tack in the toolbox-no surprise there. But guess who is missing? There's no Randy message, nothing at all from the guy who was Mike's first best pal, who said they'd be "best of chums", and I found that sad. Even sadder, in that section where they name the "Most Likely to...", Randall was voted "Most Likely to DISAPPEAR". Now, I know that's supposed to be a jokey reference to his ability, but considering what happened to him, BECAUSE of his "best chum", it's just sad. Now, onto the "Monsters, Inc. Storybook Collection", which is a collection of short stories that are set at MU, pre-MI, and post-MI, as well as the same storybook version of MI. There is NO mention of Randall AT ALL in any of the MU stories, NONE. There is ONE story that includes Randall set after he went to work at MI, before the events of the movie, and it's totally stupid. There's a parade in town, and each Scare Team has to build a float to put in the parade. Mike and Sulley are chosen by Waternoose(of course, and he is SUCH a dear, good person)to lead the parade since they are in the lead in Scaring(my butt!), but when it comes time to start the parade, their float won't move. It's out of GAS. Yes, GAS, NOT Scream! So along comes Randall, whose float is simply a bunch of full-length mirrors so he can stand in front of them and pose and preen and blow kisses to the audience like some prissy Hollywood type-I mean, SERIOUSLY, DISNEY?! He volunteers to lead the parade since Sulley's float won't start, but when Mike and Sulley go to check their float closer, they find three-toed footprints-Randall's-leading to and from the gas tank. Seems he siphoned off their fuel. So as Randall is posing and admiring himself in the mirrors, Sulley roars and startles him, causing him to stop, and everyone laughs because they think it's part of an act, and in the end, the audience cheers everyone's floats, even Randall's. Now, HERE is where it gets interesting, and some of you might already know about this. I know One Pistol and Minty know. There's a post-MI story in which Mike and Sulley have to keep the factory's day care because the day care worker is sick, so they show up to care for all the little monster kiddies. Little Smitty is still there, but guess what? FUNGUS has a KID, named after HIM! Looks NOTHING like him, though. And it gets MORE interesting! There is an adorable little guy named "Rex", who is reptilian, has eight limbs, a mouthful of sharp teeth, bright green eyes, can become invisible(very helpful when playing "hide and seek"), has a prehensile tail, is orange with a red tail, and a single "frond" on top of his head. Rex is identified as "Randall's NEPHEW", people, which means that Randall has a sibling who STILL WORKS AT MI, for the same guy who HELPED LYNCH HIS/HER BROTHER! Now, how EFFED-UP is THAT? We are not told if Rex's last name is Boggs or not, so we do not know if his parent is Randall's sister or brother, but there is a definite family resemblance. I mean, I guess the sibling was either lied to about what happened to Randall, or doesn't give a rat's rectum about him. I thought about the possibility that Randall might have actually returned and is working there again in some capacity and has custody of this kid, but there are a LOT of other post-MI stories, and there's no mention of Randall at all, no glimpse of him, nothing, so I have to conclude that he's gone. That is just so sad. Mike and Sulley do not react to the kid one way or the other, btw. On a somewhat lighter note, in the "Essential Guide", it is revealed that Randall's eyes DO reflect light like a cat's, so while he's nearsighted as all get-out, he can see in the dark quite well. Here is how the Guide introduces him: "This snaky Scarer has everything it takes to be properly petrifying, but he is too sweet-natured at first to realize it." Awwww...so y'all had to go and torment him and and humiliate him over and over and drive him to the brink of sanity so you could justify killing him, huh, Pixar? PIXAR HAS TO FIX THIS!! pitbulllady Well if Randall isn't in any of the other stories that take place after the events in MI but he's not in the MU stories either....then maybe they just didn't include him in the ones that take place after MI either, just like they didn't include him in any of the MU ones. So who knows, maybe he does have custody of his nephew....although you are probably right. He probably isn't back. I'm curious what Fungus' kid looks like actually. As for all the mirrors on Randall's float and him "acting vain". Well, honestly Randall is insecure and wants recognition/attention.....so I can see why he'd do that. It isn't really for any arrogant reason. He's just insecure.....and naturally a lot of people want some recognition in their lives and Randall is pretty much constantly deprived of that. Although I'm sure Disney is trying to imply something bad about him in that story. :/ Also, PBL.....that picture you just posted of Randall is sexy. LOL. |
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Post by RandallBoggs on May 24, 2013 23:35:40 GMT -5
Well is THAT ironic or what?
Minty told me that Jimmy can be sorta nickname to James...but...like with the nephew thing, hopefully people won't confuse it as canon. His real name is James Peter Sullivan.
And yes...I was going to pair this with the cupcakes bit.
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...That's...kind of a double sentence there Minty, unsure what you mean.
Considering a story in the book does have Randall being blamed for pranks, and ended with "Randall wasn't back", he's proposed, in this storybook, to still be gone. Considering his social lack...taking care of a kid at that state in his life is......he's not the best choice by far.
*rubs temple* In terms of time, this would occur between the point of Randall losing his Top Scare position to Sullivan. He'd lost his recognition/attention. At first it was easy, then slowly grew. The mirrors were obviously a show from DISNEY to show him being vain.
As we know, he's not though.
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Post by pitbulllady on May 24, 2013 23:38:53 GMT -5
I know, right? I saw that pic and was like, "holy CRAP that's hot!" I'm sure it's meant to be some sort of foreshadowing about how he turns out later, but it really is an awesome pic! That whole reflecting eyes thing is a great touch! Even with the glasses on this still has the potential to be quite scary to someone who doesn't know what a sweetheart he really is. In fact, the Essential Guide specifically mentions Randy's appearance here as "giving out a falsely sinister first impression". There is nothing but cute and positive things about him in this particular book.
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Post by RandallBoggs on May 24, 2013 23:42:07 GMT -5
Actually Pitbulllady...maybe it's a turnaround.
People who knew Randall from MI, well most...uneducated in him...know him as "the bad guy". So when they first see him in the film with the above, it shows that "dark" side.....
But then it completely flips. That "bad person"...was one of the nicest people you would ever meet.
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Post by number-1-scarer on May 24, 2013 23:51:57 GMT -5
Well is THAT ironic or what? Minty told me that Jimmy can be sorta nickname to James...but...like with the nephew thing, hopefully people won't confuse it as canon. His real name is James Peter Sullivan. And yes...I was going to pair this with the cupcakes bit. ====== ...That's...kind of a double sentence there Minty, unsure what you mean. Considering a story in the book does have Randall being blamed for pranks, and ended with "Randall wasn't back", he's proposed, in this storybook, to still be gone. Considering his social lack...taking care of a kid at that state in his life is......he's not the best choice by far. *rubs temple* In terms of time, this would occur between the point of Randall losing his Top Scare position to Sullivan. He'd lost his recognition/attention. At first it was easy, then slowly grew. The mirrors were obviously a show from DISNEY to show him being vain. As we know, he's not though. i thought his middle name was Phil  at least i think thats what they said in the trailer i might have heard wrong though |
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Post by pitbulllady on May 25, 2013 0:22:24 GMT -5
Well is THAT ironic or what? Minty told me that Jimmy can be sorta nickname to James...but...like with the nephew thing, hopefully people won't confuse it as canon. His real name is James Peter Sullivan. And yes...I was going to pair this with the cupcakes bit. ====== ...That's...kind of a double sentence there Minty, unsure what you mean. Considering a story in the book does have Randall being blamed for pranks, and ended with "Randall wasn't back", he's proposed, in this storybook, to still be gone. Considering his social lack...taking care of a kid at that state in his life is......he's not the best choice by far. *rubs temple* In terms of time, this would occur between the point of Randall losing his Top Scare position to Sullivan. He'd lost his recognition/attention. At first it was easy, then slowly grew. The mirrors were obviously a show from DISNEY to show him being vain. As we know, he's not though. i thought his middle name was Phil at least i think thats what they said in the trailer i might have heard wrong though Nope, in the trailer Sulley introduces himself to Mike as "James P. Sullivan". pitbulllady |
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Post by number-1-scarer on May 25, 2013 0:31:43 GMT -5
i thought his middle name was Phil at least i think thats what they said in the trailer i might have heard wrong though Nope, in the trailer Sulley introduces himself to Mike as "James P. Sullivan". pitbulllady but they say his dads name was Phil. i mean i guess it could be something else i just assumed the 'P' would be his fathers name like it is with most peoples middle names. |
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at least i think thats what they said in the trailer i might have heard wrong though