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Post by pitbulllady on Feb 27, 2013 20:10:13 GMT -5
Someone on Pixar Planet made a reference to a MU "featurette" in which they claimed they saw Randall, in what appeared to them to be the "climax" of the movie, without his glasses and with a "mean" expression. Anyone know what the heck they're talking about? Is it in reference to the "Message From the Dean"? If so, the only time I saw Randall near the end was when he was singing the Alma Mater with the other guys from the ROR chorus at a football game, and while he didn't have glasses, he certainly didn't look "mean" to me! Serious, yes. It's a solemn occasion, not one to look or act silly or giddy or whatever, no matter what you're feeling. It's like singing the National Anthem. All I see there in Randall's expression is pride and reflection that he knows how serious this is, to be chosen to perform the Alma Mater at a sports function, which I doubt is the climax of the movie. Is THAT what they're referring to? I mean, honestly, it's like some people are going to see "meanness" or "evil" in Randall no matter what he does. It's like, "Oh, look...he's not smiling, so he must have turned EEEEVIILLLL by this time". OR is there some other clip I've missed?
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Post by RandallBoggs on Feb 27, 2013 20:13:12 GMT -5
I was just over there posting and caught that too. Part of me thought "....is he referring to the trailer of that look he gave Sullivan, sitting beside Wazowski? That's...no climax nor is it mean...ok a little mean but still"
The anthem MAY be a climax of the film...but Randall is nowhere near mean...I haven't seen a THING that shows him like that...
I don't know about any Featurette...our researchers here (myself included) haven't come across such a thing. Maybe it's new-new...I'll check.
--------- OK...from what I can gather the "featurette" is referencing the 3 minute bit with the Director explaining the premise of the film. I honestly don't remember Randall even appearing in this but...granted, I haven't re-looked at it in a while.
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Post by pitbulllady on Feb 27, 2013 20:47:55 GMT -5
I was just over there posting and caught that too. Part of me thought "....is he referring to the trailer of that look he gave Sullivan, sitting beside Wazowski? That's...no climax nor is it mean...ok a little mean but still" The anthem MAY be a climax of the film...but Randall is nowhere near mean...I haven't seen a THING that shows him like that... I don't know about any Featurette...our researchers here (myself included) haven't come across such a thing. Maybe it's new-new...I'll check. --------- OK...from what I can gather the "featurette" is referencing the 3 minute bit with the Director explaining the premise of the film. I honestly don't remember Randall even appearing in this but...granted, I haven't re-looked at it in a while. I didn't even think that the look he gave Sulley was mean. Annoyed, irritated, a bit shocked, perhaps, but there was no actual malice there. I mean, so they expect him to go around with that smile on his face ALL the time, not even to get the least bit aggravated without that being seen as a sign that he's really evil in disguise? Seriously, if Randall is shown handing out blankets to the homeless and pulling human babies and puppies from burning buildings and donating a kidney to save some dying child he doesn't even know, some people are never going to accept him as anything other than the spawn of Satan. pitbulllady
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Post by RandallBoggs on Feb 27, 2013 20:52:16 GMT -5
*chuckles* If it honestly WAS that scene that was being referred to...it's not "mean" that gets me...it's thinking...THAT is a climax? *folds arms* May be mean myself, and I apologize, but...for hilarity and a chuckle for others I'll say it. Imagine this clip bit...and the books falling in slow motion with the words "CLIMAX!!!" flashing. Like THAT is what made things go bad heh heh.
I have noted the lack of admittance that Randall is shown in a good light but...*shrugs* those "expected" people your talking about? Let'em have their cake for now...we've got the whole feast (and another cake on standby). Randall's a good guy as I've said, as others have said, who got himself into this little thing called life and got the crap beat out of him like so many others. And...we were right.
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Post by mintygreen on Feb 27, 2013 21:08:59 GMT -5
I just looked at that comment on Pixar Planet....I honestly have no idea what that person's talking about. If there was another scene of Randall out there, you'd think more people would have seen it.
They're probably just making an assumption about something we have already seen....and I have no idea why he/she thinks that whatever scene he/she is talking about is at the end of the film.
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Post by pitbulllady on Feb 27, 2013 21:15:31 GMT -5
LOL, I know, right? If either the "drive-by book drop" or the football game(HELLO, people...it's COLLEGE)is supposed to be the climax of MU, I'm afraid we'll be in for a snooze-fest for the rest of the movie! But yeah, it does irritate that me that no matter what light Randall is shown in, there will still be people who think he's evil and want the worse to happen to him, and probably would still feel that way even if he'd never done anything bad at all in the original. And yes, almost certainly if there WAS this other scene with Randall, you KNOW that it would already be all over Tumblr by now, with like a zillion comments and re-posts and what-nots.
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Post by RandallBoggs on Feb 27, 2013 21:19:40 GMT -5
*shrugs* Some people assume Randall's going to "turn into" the person he was in MI during this...and I say...that ain't right. This is ten years (apparently) before hand. Randall was a nice guy...he's going to get manipulated...and hands down we still have FIVE years when he's at MI...
If anybody seen my "Mail" entry back in the Fanfiction section, these guys have butted their heads, but it's not like they're life rivals. Their lives are just connected. Randall doesn't really hate either of them, they, LATER, just got into the wrong place at the wrong time. To say four years in college makes you the same person ten years later is just...doesn't sound right to me.
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Post by mintygreen on Feb 27, 2013 21:38:01 GMT -5
LOL, I know, right? If either the "drive-by book drop" or the football game(HELLO, people...it's COLLEGE)is supposed to be the climax of MU, I'm afraid we'll be in for a snooze-fest for the rest of the movie! But yeah, it does irritate that me that no matter what light Randall is shown in, there will still be people who think he's evil and want the worse to happen to him, and probably would still feel that way even if he'd never done anything bad at all in the original. And yes, almost certainly if there WAS this other scene with Randall, you KNOW that it would already be all over Tumblr by now, with like a zillion comments and re-posts and what-nots. pitbulllady Well they are free to think he's evil and want something bad to happen to him.....I mean, I can't expect everyone to like Randall, no matter what. Of course, that's not the side we're on.....but there will always be people who think differently about him and they're free to feel that way. I just don't agree with them. Although if they're going to say that, I do like to at least see some attempt at a reasonable argument for it.....I'm just confused as to what scene that person is even getting at.
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Post by RandallBoggs on Feb 27, 2013 21:41:33 GMT -5
Freedom to think wrong...there are always walls. Better to walk away than to take a wrecking ball to it and cause a mess.
*shrugs* The climax thing I have no idea, the look I can understand as being misinterpreted. As thought, Randall's most likely squinting there...
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Post by mintygreen on Feb 27, 2013 21:48:51 GMT -5
Freedom to think wrong...there are always walls. Better to walk away than to take a wrecking ball to it and cause a mess. *shrugs* The climax thing I have no idea, the look I can understand as being misinterpreted. As thought, Randall's most likely squinting there... Exactly. I mean I'll defend Randall....but the fact remains that there will always be people who see him in a different light and it's a free world so they can think that way if they want. It's the same with anything.....for example you'll see a movie come out and a lot of people might think it's an amazing movie but no matter what the movie is like, there will always be SOMEONE who won't like it. It's just how life goes. I stopped trying to please absolutely everyone a while ago....because the world will just never work that way.
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Post by RandallBoggs on Feb 27, 2013 21:50:55 GMT -5
Sad but true.
Hehehe, a reason why people can fail as a president, try to please everybody when that's impossible heh.
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Post by mintygreen on Feb 27, 2013 21:56:19 GMT -5
Sad but true. Hehehe, a reason why people can fail as a president, try to please everybody when that's impossible heh. Yeah, you can just never please everyone. I'm sure we all know people in our lives who like us....and also people who don't. No matter what kind of personality you have or what you do in life, there will always be people who like you and also people who don't. Essentially you just hope the majority likes you.
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Post by mintygreen on Feb 27, 2013 22:05:07 GMT -5
I mean the main problem for Randall in MI was that EVERYONE was against him. No matter what you do....you can never make everyone like you.....but NO ONE seemed to like Randall in MI. As in, the other characters in the movie. Obviously he has human fans who care about him.
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Post by RandallBoggs on Feb 27, 2013 22:34:36 GMT -5
Per Minty's post over at the Planet, going directly to asking what the scene was... Apparently SOA was referring to the anthem scene...
....So yeah folks, nothing new here. Another misinterpretation.
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Post by mintygreen on Feb 27, 2013 23:12:16 GMT -5
Per Minty's post over at the Planet, going directly to asking what the scene was... Apparently SOA was referring to the anthem scene... ....So yeah folks, nothing new here. Another misinterpretation. Yep, really wanted to know exactly what scene SOA was talking about so I thought I would just outright ask. I do expect that that scene is somewhere LATER in the movie...not near the beginning....but as for it actually being the climax....I kind of doubt it. He does come off as looking a little older in that scene though and more sure of himself....not sure how he looks 'evil' though.
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