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Post by vladimirgg on Mar 1, 2006 20:37:57 GMT -5
We really ought to post the last two pages, they are the most important. Of course, we would need the consent of Disney first.....
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Post by RandallBoggs on Mar 2, 2006 16:09:55 GMT -5
We don't need consent to post such things ^_^
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Post by pitbulllady on Mar 2, 2006 19:58:42 GMT -5
Actually, Sean, publicly posting a copywritten material CAN get you into hot water, big time, and Disney already has a reputation for pursuing such matters. Someone on our Lilo and Stitch board posted a comic, and the moderator happened to be a Disney cast member. She had no problem with it, and didn't realize that it would even be a problem, BUT she told someone she worked with...who told someone they worked with, and she was ordered to remove it immediately! I wouldn't be willing to take that risk.
pitbulllady
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Post by RandallBoggs on Mar 2, 2006 20:05:18 GMT -5
"Heh heh...They never said anything about describing heh heh"
Besides. We're only posting the parts with Ran in it. It would be considered illegal if we put the whole thing on. Not like anybody's buying allot of them anyway. Besides, we research mostly.
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Post by pitbulllady on Mar 2, 2006 22:42:50 GMT -5
"Disney Magazine" DOES sell very well, actually, and many school and public libraries subscribe to it. Publically posting something that's not yours, whether for "research" or whatever, still walks a fine line between legal and illegal.
pitbulllady
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Post by vladimirgg on Mar 3, 2006 15:47:37 GMT -5
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Post by vladimirgg on Mar 3, 2006 15:49:48 GMT -5
Actually, Sean, publicly posting a copywritten material CAN get you into hot water, big time, and Disney already has a reputation for pursuing such matters. Someone on our Lilo and Stitch board posted a comic, and the moderator happened to be a Disney cast member. She had no problem with it, and didn't realize that it would even be a problem, BUT she told someone she worked with...who told someone they worked with, and she was ordered to remove it immediately! I wouldn't be willing to take that risk. pitbulllady Does she still moderate that site? Does she have the authority to give us written permission? That would be helpful. ;D I could e-mail her about it
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Post by pitbulllady on Mar 3, 2006 17:36:00 GMT -5
Yes, she does, but just because she works for Disney does not mean that she has any authority to give permission to ANYONE to use Disney's copywritten materials. She works for their tour booking department, setting up vacation packages to the parks and attractions, so she has nothing to do with their publications. That would be like me saying that just because I'm a public school teacher I can give someone permission to copy and post pages from a current textbook-no can do!
pitbulllady
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Post by MelTSS on Mar 4, 2006 1:33:24 GMT -5
Strange, a Zelda site posted ALL the Zelda mangas (including Majora's Mask and Ocarina of Time), yet they are not in "hot water".....Maybe they asked first? (Which I HIGHLY doubt) I don't think it would hurt if someone posted ONE page of something. Many people have done that and they aren't in trouble. I think real trouble would start if it was the WHOLE comic/manga. Aot of sites only post 1 or 2 pages, because, either they had permission or it's just the fact that it's not the whole thing. I don't know, the WORLD may never know. O.o;
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Post by pitbulllady on Mar 4, 2006 21:01:38 GMT -5
Well, to settle what actually happens in the comic, when I'm not being literally shoved out the door of the Disney Store by an employee as they're bringing down the security grate in front, I went back and bought the magazine today, since I had to go buy snake food, and that mall is on the way to Leroy the Rat Man's place.
Vladimirgg is right; Mike and Sulley DO, in fact, BREAK INTO Randall's home/appartment, while he's asleep! But that's not all that the comic reveals. The presentation, in which Waternoose reveals the robot, called the "Scare-O-Matic 2000", is one year prior to the events of the movie, and the robot DOES look EXACTLY like a smaller version of the Omnidroid, except that it's white. It even has those extending four arms, just like Buddy's (other?)creation. It has built-in "Scare circuits", which cause it to display a wide range of frightening, and even downright violent, behaviors in the presence of a human child, and naturally, Waternoose assigns it to be tried out for one month with his favorite Scarer and his partner. Randall takes exception to this, but keeps his thoughts to himself. Now, HERE is where it gets interesting...the next day, Randall is simply walking by Mike and Sulley as they are preparing to try out the robot, and he very politely asks them how things are going...nothing hostile, nothing threatening at all. Mike and Sulley BOTH are EXTREMELY rude and hostile to HIM, though, telling him to "beat it"(Sulley's words)and to "step away from the 'bot, buddy!"(Mike's words, accompanied by a threatening gesture as though he's actually going to throw the robot's remote control at Randall! At this point, Randall simply reaches down underneath the machine and unplugs its Scare circuits as he's leaving, and I cannot say I blame him one bit. Doing this causes the robot to fail to act menacing towards human children, and it goes on to play dress-up with the little girl it's sent in to scare. Mike and Sulley realize that something is wrong, and run in to retrieve the machine. Mike notices that the Scare circuit is unplugged, and immediately jumps to the conclusion that Randall did it(which he did, of course, but THEY didn't have proof), so they plan to break in and "sic" the robot on him. This they do, waking him up while he's in bed after letting the robot draw on him with pink lipstick and markers, and he runs away as the thing pursues him with make-up and dolly clothes...in HIS house.
WHY does Randall NOT have a gun? I would happily donate him one of mine, along with the Catahoula of his choice. I've had my home broken into once, and have had two attempted break-ins since, thwarted only by a neighbor in one case, and a 12-guage pump-action shotgun in the other. I have deep, serious issues with home invaders, so for Sulley and Mike to stoop THAT low, and for Randall NOT to retaliate much sooner than the movie, a year later, says that Randall's patience and "goodness level" is MUCH higher than MINE. I promise you Mike and Sulley would NOT have left MY home in one piece! Their rudeness with him was totally uncalled for, as was their petty act of revenge(but then, we know that they ARE inclined to get even with those who cross them, don't we), which includes home invasion, ANOTHER ILLEGAL act, I might add, was indeed a valid reason for Randall to despise them with every fiber of his being. It's also further proof, to me, anyway, of their overt hatred(racism?) towards Randall. They have no reason to hate him and behave towards him as they do, while he has EVERY reason to resent them and their trumped-up success.
Oh, by the way, Randall wears green button-up jammies and sleeps with the tip of his tongue poked out of his mouth, like many puppies and kittens do.
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Post by lizardgirl on Mar 5, 2006 12:29:13 GMT -5
Problem is, if Randall DID have a gun then, Wazowski and Sullivan might go to the police accusing him of doing this and that, and knowing how racist even the law can be, Randall would get the punishment.
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Post by RandallBoggs on Mar 5, 2006 14:03:40 GMT -5
"I DO NOT WEAR THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Oh boy...shouldn't have put that in there... Great...
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Post by pitbulllady on Mar 5, 2006 14:55:12 GMT -5
Problem is, if Randall DID have a gun then, Wazowski and Sullivan might go to the police accusing him of doing this and that, and knowing how racist even the law can be, Randall would get the punishment. I guess it depends on the laws there. If there is a strict gun-control law in effect, preventing citizens from owning firearms, then that would be a problem, OR, there could have been laws preventing REPTILIAN monsters from owning firearms to defend themselves with. I cannot tell if Randall lives in a house or apartment, whether he rents or owns(most likely the former), so I don't know what the feasability of him having a dog for protection would be, either. If he lived in South Carolina, he could have both, assuming his landlord allowed dogs. Our state's Attorney General and legistlature, fed up with the number of break-ins and property invasions, and number of property owners killed or injured by trespassors, actually passed a state law declaring, as they put it, "open season on home invaders", not only allowing home/property owners to use whatever force necessary to defend themselves and their property, but ENCOURAGING it. If Randall lived here, it would be his civic duty as a resident to do whatever it took to stop Mike and Sulley, and if that meant a face-full of lead, so be it. There would be absolutely nothing the law could do against him in such a case, and absolutely nothing that Mike and Sulley's next-of-kin could do to get compensation, either. Dead or not, they'd be seen as the definate criminals here. MOST places in the US, in fact, DO permit a home owner or resident to use whatever force is needed to stop anyone who's broken into their home, without fear of prosecution, especially if the home invaders were armed or otherwise violent or belligerent. I would consider a robot, which was programmable to be violent, to be a weapon. Regardless, it's pretty much a given that if someone is breaking into your home, they are doing so with hostile intent, and should by default be considered dangerous. pitbulllady
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Post by RandallBoggs on Mar 5, 2006 15:02:03 GMT -5
Well...Randall didn't have a gun because of several reasons. 1. He was stubborn enough to consider himself a weapon (the guy CAN fight) 2. Nearly no seller would give a reptile a gun 3. Possible suicide with a gun is just noisy
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Post by vladimirgg on Mar 6, 2006 11:32:58 GMT -5
Wow this got interesting since I've been gone. I think the authorities would allow him to own a gun. Celia is a little reptilian after all, and she's treated fairly decent... and let's face it, when you're a woman, a gun is a necesity, weather you live alone or not. If Randall has a gun, he was probably to terrified/shocked to use it... and let's face it, they wouldn't allow a gun fight to occur in a Disney magazine. I agree, he could benifit from having a dog, a pitbull, doberman or a st. bernard would make an excellent guard dog, Randall Having spent time with all three breeds, I can say that from experiance.
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