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Post by pitbulllady on Jun 8, 2009 23:20:36 GMT -5
Pixar IS making Monsters, Inc. 2, and worse, Peter Docter is directing this one, too. If it were someone else at the helm, I would not be as upset, but I honestly felt sick to my stomach when I found this today on IMDb.com: newsinfilm.com/?p=16037First, the information I'm getting about Up pretty much sealed in my mind, that IF Pixar made a sequel to M.I. ANd Peter Docter had anything to do with it, Randall is seriously SCREWED. ALL of us here are seriously screwed. We've just been flipped the finger, big-time, and don't try to make something positive of this, Sean...sorry, I hate to be so b****y, but I honestly don't think that there is a "maybe this wonderful thing will happen, and..." no, there is not going to BE a "wonderful thing". There won't BE a miracle. The best we can hope for is that Randall is never seen again in anything with Pixar's or Disney's name associated with it, so we can fill in with our imaginations. No it won't be canon, and most folks won't have a clue, but it's better than the alternative. pitbulllady |
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Post by RandallBoggs on Jun 9, 2009 1:14:00 GMT -5
*folds arms* Lets not panic or start a mob just yet....brings out hose to douse firesticks and getting someone to collect pitchforks*
Getting all fidgety JUST because M.I. got a release date (a date that was speculated and rumored for awhile actually), and Pete is directing....
Ok....lets see...roll call. Toy Story...well Sid....kid...and he did sorta reform I GUESS since he became afraid of toys....Toy Story 2....Zerg, not a villain....Al? Well collector with no brains...unsure exactly what happened to him...think he's alright. Wall-E? As said, Auto not a villain, defeated...not exactly killed...
Up.....well I haven't seen it, but hear Montz got killed. And from the review of his past....he's got sympathy.
*folds arms* 3/4 years people. That's ALLOT of time....ALLOT can happen. And if need be, we find ways to somehow change things if change IS neccessary.
And besides, Newt's before it. A good sorta-preview.
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Post by mentalguru on Jun 9, 2009 4:01:29 GMT -5
Noooo.
-groans and a little part of me dies-
Pete?!
I mean I liked Wall-E but...
I've actually wanted a sequal, because I wanted to know what happened to Randall myself, but with this guy behind the wheel, I kind of hope he isn't in it.
Plus I'm worried how they're going to show Boo- is she going to be much older in it? Or are they going to pick off more or less where the movie left off? Will they show HER as some teen cliche? Say it aint so!
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Post by DinoGirl on Jun 9, 2009 9:59:51 GMT -5
This is something I did not want to happen... agreeing with Pittbulllady that Randall may indeed return as the villain with Pete Doctor directing. This is a time where I wish, even though some people think that we have so much fandom that we want a sequel to the movie to happen, that sequels are just out of the question. What happened to Randall in the original is bad enough... what the heck are they going to make him do now? That glimmer of hope for Randall returning and revealing what we call his true agenda looks to be slipping away thoroughly. One of the big problems is, that people do not realize, even though many of us here put in so much effort into this, that Randall was not the 'evil bad guy' he is sometimes made out to be, and there are so many obvious hints to this, that we do not realize instantly. Even the first time I read the posts of many of you awesome users, I was truly knocked into overwhelming thoughts about our friend. We have to think that even the unthinkable have good inside, even if it does not show at first. Goodness how this make's me mad...
One thing that dissapoints me though now, is the subject of Toy Story 3. I've actually spoken to a few people about this, and as too adding to my text above, I'm not judging too early, but many have suggested that this will ruin the magic that the films have presented before. There was a time when Pixar used to say 'Story Is King!', yet now, I'm not so sure...
Anyway, I'm supposing they'll be the early preview on the screenings of Newt, so until then, we can only have the most inside of information to the story. I have to admit though, one thing I do find enjoyable, is just 'seeing' a character I like in the movie again, villain or not really, even though that really defeats the purpose of what we all know about Randall...
Perhaps one of the few movies where the supposed 'bad' character does not have an unhappy ending is Horton Hears A Who, where the character admits the wronging they've committed and are forgiven. I suppose having a name Sour Kangaroo also points in that direction anyhow...
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Post by pitbulllady on Jun 9, 2009 10:59:40 GMT -5
*folds arms* Lets not panic or start a mob just yet....brings out hose to douse firesticks and getting someone to collect pitchforks* Getting all fidgety JUST because M.I. got a release date (a date that was speculated and rumored for awhile actually), and Pete is directing.... Ok....lets see...roll call. Toy Story...well Sid....kid...and he did sorta reform I GUESS since he became afraid of toys....Toy Story 2....Zerg, not a villain....Al? Well collector with no brains...unsure exactly what happened to him...think he's alright. Wall-E? As said, Auto not a villain, defeated...not exactly killed... Up.....well I haven't seen it, but hear Montz got killed. And from the review of his past....he's got sympathy. *folds arms* 3/4 years people. That's ALLOT of time....ALLOT can happen. And if need be, we find ways to somehow change things if change IS neccessary. And besides, Newt's before it. A good sorta-preview. is NOT a "preview" of MI2! A newt is not a reptile, let alone a monster, and any slight resemblence between that character and Randall is pure coincidence, and I certainly do NOT feel that the one is supposed to make movie-goers get ready for the other. 3/4 years? What does THAT mean? Not time to panic? OK, Sean, when WOULD it be time to panic, to try and change the course, when the movie is three weeks from release? That's like saying, "Ok, the house is burning down, but I still think we've got time...no need to panic and call the friggin' fire department just yet, or grab a garden hose or fire extinguisher...we've still got time; this could all just burn itself out and everything will be all hunky-dory wonderful!" How the movies turned out for Zerg and Syd and the others is irrelevant at this point, since Peter Docter did NOT direct THOSE movies. He DID direct Up and M.I., and we know how those turned out for Muntz and Randall, respectively. I've heard or read no reviews that indicate that anyone felt sorry for Muntz or sympathized with him, but only that he was shown as a mean, evil, twisted, obsessed old man...pretty much how Docter wanted us to see RANDALL, only with the "old" left out and the word "man" changed to "monster", or even "reptile". Why should I expect the sequel to be any different? pitbulllady |
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Post by RandallBoggs on Jun 9, 2009 18:21:01 GMT -5
That IS something we DON'T know about the story. *folds arms* Will they be borrowing from the comic? In that case, Boo is not much older than she was before (and funny enough she's wearing the "Costume" if I recall. And if she isn't at least a few years older, things are going to be limited....
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Which is WHY if they ARE going to do it in this sequel, it's NOT Randall who we'll see. It is a STEREOTYPE.
The reason why I referranced Newt...is that despite any facts presented, kids would STILL think they look like "lizards" despite what you tell them. And in that case, how they'll treat Newt and Brook will give insight into how they MAY treat Randall.
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Refer to the upper portion.
It MEANS there is TIME. What if, just example, Pete was pushed over onto another project and say...like...the director for Finding Nemo takes the position as director? Heck, his movie had no villains at all.
STOP IT. I hadn't had to say that to YOU before. But STOP IT. Stop attacking me as if I hadn't been defending Randall in every instance for the past eight years. YOU THINK I WANT TO SEE HIM LIKE THAT AGAIN!? OR DIE!? You think I want to see the same bull-@(*$ after so many years of being vigilant?! HELL NO. At least instead of complaining about it for a long time, I'm TRYING to think of a loophole here! They mess up with this, they mess up big time. Movie-wise...the Toy Story people? Heck, they got their sequel. Cars folks? We'll they won't have to wait long. US? A little over a decade. I'm NOT going to lay down for it and let all it crash down just because dear old Pete thinks replaying the same old song again will get more in his pocket for some original he's got planned or something.
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Post by pitbulllady on Jun 9, 2009 19:36:14 GMT -5
That IS something we DON'T know about the story. *folds arms* Will they be borrowing from the comic? In that case, Boo is not much older than she was before (and funny enough she's wearing the "Costume" if I recall. And if she isn't at least a few years older, things are going to be limited.... ---------------------- Which is WHY if they ARE going to do it in this sequel, it's NOT Randall who we'll see. It is a STEREOTYPE. The reason why I referranced Newt...is that despite any facts presented, kids would STILL think they look like "lizards" despite what you tell them. And in that case, how they'll treat Newt and Brook will give insight into how they MAY treat Randall. ---------------------------- Refer to the upper portion. It MEANS there is TIME. What if, just example, Pete was pushed over onto another project and say...like...the director for Finding Nemo takes the position as director? Heck, his movie had no villains at all. STOP IT. I hadn't had to say that to YOU before. But STOP IT. Stop attacking me as if I hadn't been defending Randall in every instance for the past eight years. YOU THINK I WANT TO SEE HIM LIKE THAT AGAIN!? OR DIE!? You think I want to see the same bull-@(*$ after so many years of being vigilant?! HELL NO. At least instead of complaining about it for a long time, I'm TRYING to think of a loophole here! They mess up with this, they mess up big time. Movie-wise...the Toy Story people? Heck, they got their sequel. Cars folks? We'll they won't have to wait long. US? A little over a decade. I'm NOT going to lay down for it and let all it crash down just because dear old Pete thinks replaying the same old song again will get more in his pocket for some original he's got planned or something. The comic's artist, in her response to me, STRONGLY hinted that the comic would either be a sort of "pathway" to the sequel, or an outright shortened version of it, and left no doubts as to the fact that Randall would be back and would be again used as the villain, and of course, we know what happens to villains in Pixar's movies. Randall escaped death once, but he's not going to do it TWICE, of that you can be sure. Whether they kill him in the comic, or wait until the film sequel, they aren't going to let him survive this time around or leave any doubts, as to whether he died or not, like they did the last time. I KNOW you've always been there, defending Randall, but at the same time, cheerful optimism can only go so far, and mine's reached its limit. It will take a literal miracle, Divine Intervention, whatever you want to call it, to change this course. THIS is why I posted that question on Pixar Planet, about whether or not anyone ever got a real reply from anyone at Pixar, since I know every attempt any of US here now, or anyone who was on the old Bogg's Board, to develop dialog with Pixar over Randall's role in any hypothetical sequel, short film, whatever, has been met with utter silence. They apparently do not know that Randall HAS fans, and don't WANT to know, either. I honestly don't know any way to approach them or get our voices to be heard that won't come off as creepy, the way they obviously see Randall. I'm open to suggestion, since I'm honestly at a loss here. It's like the constantly-growing cancer of breed bans and "exotic" animal bans and pet limits and mandatory spay/neuter laws designed to bring about zero population growth of domestic animals; for every one victory we have, the other side has 10. pitbulllady |
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Post by RandallBoggs on Jun 9, 2009 19:49:33 GMT -5
PATHWAY? Now...heh...that's just lazy of them 0_-
Not sure how far my "I'm not an optomist" meter is up ^_^ Not much in the way of a thing called "divine intervention" 0_-
*folds arms* Perhaps finding some-way of direct....hmm...well I had been working on something...got to finish that..
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Post by randomdrifter on Jun 10, 2009 0:25:36 GMT -5
Pixar IS making Monsters, Inc. 2, and worse, Peter Docter is directing this one, too. If it were someone else at the helm, I would not be as upset, but I honestly felt sick to my stomach when I found this today on IMDb.com: newsinfilm.com/?p=16037First, the information I'm getting about Up pretty much sealed in my mind, that IF Pixar made a sequel to M.I. ANd Peter Docter had anything to do with it, Randall is seriously SCREWED. ALL of us here are seriously screwed. We've just been flipped the finger, big-time, and don't try to make something positive of this, Sean...sorry, I hate to be so b****y, but I honestly don't think that there is a "maybe this wonderful thing will happen, and..." no, there is not going to BE a "wonderful thing". There won't BE a miracle. The best we can hope for is that Randall is never seen again in anything with Pixar's or Disney's name associated with it, so we can fill in with our imaginations. No it won't be canon, and most folks won't have a clue, but it's better than the alternative. pitbulllady I remember that "we don't do sequels" quote. Now Toy Story is going all Shrek and Ice Agewith a third installment. And did a perfect, happily-ever-after ending like Cars really need a continuation?? They're resembling Dreamworks' pattern of mass production of sequels, which is something I remember I used to look down upon as unoriginal and lame because the gods of the industry, a.k.a, Pixar, didn't need to continue pumping life into one-shot, huge-hit wonders of stories and characters. How times have changed! With the way Pixar has been doing sequels with Toy Story, I very much doubt we'll be seeing Randall again, so I'm not too worried about him making a second appearance as the bad guy. They may come up with new characters altogether and only keep Mike and Sulley, and more than likely, Boo. Banishing old bad guys and bringing in new ones has been the thrill of sequels after all, and I doubt that if/when Pixar officially makes that announcement themselves, they'll pick up on the same story. As much as I wanted to see Randall live again, I don't think Pixar will want to stick to the old perils or characters besides the protagonists, for the same reason that other movies don't usually bring their own bad guys back a second time. It would be too repetitive and unoriginal in every aspect of the word, and maybe Pixar doesn't want to fall into that sort of rut. Yet. |
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Post by tmazanec1 on Jun 10, 2009 10:41:13 GMT -5
If Randall is ****ed, screw 'em. Just write fanfics as Alternate World stories and read those. Yes, try to put up some effort for Randall, but we can do our own thing if Pixar blows us off.
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Post by DinoGirl on Jun 10, 2009 14:05:35 GMT -5
If Randall is ****ed, screw 'em. Just write fanfics as Alternate World stories and read those. Yes, try to put up some effort for Randall, but we can do our own thing if Pixar blows us off. You know, that's exactly what I was thinking just this moment. Our fanfics can put so much imagination into our heads it seems so real to me anyhow. If the sequel does confirm our fears, than all we can do is just forget it happened. |
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Post by RandallBoggs on Jun 10, 2009 20:10:15 GMT -5
Actually I DO understand what they want to do with a Cars 2. Instead of isolation and having the story OH SO COMPARE to Doc Hollywood, they're looking to redeem it by taking Cars "on the road" as it were.
Maybe so. But if they borrow anything at all from the comics, which Ran is definetly in, then his return is plausible. I'm just hoping that the villain for this one is someone OTHER than him...and there ARE paths with THAT.
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And it's NOT like any of them don't affect people. Look at mentalguru's. And I've inspired people to write, and even continue some of their fanfics. And it's inspiration, admiration like that that Pixar will be LOSING if they mess up.
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Post by mentalguru on Jun 11, 2009 5:14:26 GMT -5
What first must be asked: Can we do anything? Like who there is to talk to about this etc. Is it even possible for us to offer suggestions? Also- Who is WRITING the script and story? Is it the same as the first or different people/ person? Are they more/less likely to be influenced by the director from their 'vision'? What have they written in the past? If they've written more grey than black-and-white mentality scripts, Randall might be in with a shot...
Problem is, it comes down to money (hence why CARS [?!] is probably getting a sequal- it plays well with the kids, and it was an okay movie, but wasn't my favourite Pixar, and one of the least needed sequals of any of Pixar's movies); I think most old M.I fans are Sulley and Mike fans and won't want to see redemption happening, or think the illegal banishment was justified.
Now, I'm a Sulley fan myself, but I feel out of place sometimes among other fans of the guy- as I'm a Sulley fan who doesn't care for Mike and who DIDN'T want Randall thrown out the door and think he was wrong to do it (others... seem to mostly think he deserved it...which I don't get), no denying I like Sulley (and Randall and Boo) yet it seems that the biggest RANDALL fans have been the most loyal.
I mean the move was EIGHT YEARS ago, and this place and its predecessors, despite having some times of haitus, has still kept it up pretty well. And I'll admit, the possible relationship the guy could have with either Sulley or Boo has kept me interested in this movie (despite of course, the haitus). The Sulley-Boo relationship has already been played out (and I loved it)- Randall's relationship with either of them... has potential to be taken further. There are still some things left unsaid there which could be used by fanfic writers or.... LIKE IN THE NEW MOVIE?! I'd like to see these three get issues worked out. Mike is pretty much a lost cause- but these three have POTENTIAL. Just saying.
If there's nothing to be done, fanon will take over where canon fails. There may be some new fans coming into the fandom, maybe even some more Randall fans to this board- even if the movie treats him poorly.
(Look at Harry Potter, who bombed completely and utterly in the end. Some fanfics are actually better than what JKR could ever write- though I admit, most fics are marriage law/cliche fics only used for 'ship' fullfilment, you get some really GOOD ones out there which deal with more important issues the canon failed to talk about than who is married to who.)
We probably need more information....
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Post by pitbulllady on Jun 11, 2009 11:26:59 GMT -5
What first must be asked: Can we do anything? Like who there is to talk to about this etc. Is it even possible for us to offer suggestions? Also- Who is WRITING the script and story? Is it the same as the first or different people/ person? Are they more/less likely to be influenced by the director from their 'vision'? What have they written in the past? If they've written more grey than black-and-white mentality scripts, Randall might be in with a shot... Problem is, it comes down to money (hence why CARS [?!] is probably getting a sequal- it plays well with the kids, and it was an okay movie, but wasn't my favourite Pixar, and one of the least needed sequals of any of Pixar's movies); I think most old M.I fans are Sulley and Mike fans and won't want to see redemption happening, or think the illegal banishment was justified. Now, I'm a Sulley fan myself, but I feel out of place sometimes among other fans of the guy- as I'm a Sulley fan who doesn't care for Mike and who DIDN'T want Randall thrown out the door and think he was wrong to do it (others... seem to mostly think he deserved it...which I don't get), no denying I like Sulley (and Randall and Boo) yet it seems that the biggest RANDALL fans have been the most loyal. I mean the move was EIGHT YEARS ago, and this place and its predecessors, despite having some times of haitus, has still kept it up pretty well. And I'll admit, the possible relationship the guy could have with either Sulley or Boo has kept me interested in this movie (despite of course, the haitus). The Sulley-Boo relationship has already been played out (and I loved it)- Randall's relationship with either of them... has potential to be taken further. There are still some things left unsaid there which could be used by fanfic writers or.... LIKE IN THE NEW MOVIE?! I'd like to see these three get issues worked out. Mike is pretty much a lost cause- but these three have POTENTIAL. Just saying. If there's nothing to be done, fanon will take over where canon fails. There may be some new fans coming into the fandom, maybe even some more Randall fans to this board- even if the movie treats him poorly. (Look at Harry Potter, who bombed completely and utterly in the end. Some fanfics are actually better than what JKR could ever write- though I admit, most fics are marriage law/cliche fics only used for 'ship' fullfilment, you get some really GOOD ones out there which deal with more important issues the canon failed to talk about than who is married to who.) We probably need more information.... At this point, Pixar has not even "officially" announced the sequel, and I'm not sure when they plan to do that, though probably whenever the Blu-Ray disc is finally issued in the US, that would be a good time to make the sequel really and truly official. Right now, it's what I'd call a "confirmed rumor", if that isn't too much of an oxymoron. All the information that is pretty much known at this point is that Peter Docter will be directing this one, too, though I have no idea who the writers were/are, if they're the same as the original movie, or if they're new faces, if they're old Pixar veterans, or some new outsiders the studio contracted with. I'll for the most part agree with you on Cars, and I'll say the same thing for Finding Nemo-neither of them need a sequel at all. There were no loose ends; we saw how those movies ended up for all the characters, and there were no "well, did he or didn't he get killed?" moments at the end. There was no "Good Guys vs. Bad Guys" theme, either. I probably actually liked Cars better, because there WAS a character arc/redemption there, in that the main character was not very likable at all, at first, but again, it was very predictable, because we'd seen this movie before, but with Michael J. Fox in that lead role and a rural fictional town here in South Carolina as the backdrop. Still, there was no main character whose fate was left up-in-the-air, so to speak, as was the case with M.I. Yes, we Randall fans are a loyal bunch. We've stuck by him through thick and thin, and we've held out the hope that Pixar would see that, and see fit to bring him back and actually do something meaningful with this character, rather than simply have him be the stereotyped, over-the-top, evil villain of many a cartoon and cheap 1950's Westerns. It IS not only"do-able", but it can also make for a very strong theme that appeals to all ages. If you don't believe me, look at Disney's last really successful animated movie- Lilo and Stitch. People relate to Stitch so much BECAUSE he was so bad to start with, and he was able to change through encountering the right person, and Lilo herself was no saint. There were a LOT of character arcs within that movie, and even better, not ONE of the characters were "perfect". They all had issues of one sort or another, but that made them more "real" to fans, and people went back again and again to see that movie. Even more important was that fact that Stitch was created specifically to be evil, destructive, and devoid of a conscious, yet even HE could change, so what would that say for someone like Randall, who VERY likely became this angry, bitter, and resentful individual not by default, but through unpleasant life experiences? I do not believe, with just a few rare exceptions, that anyone is just "born evil". Those exceptions would be people who are utter sociopaths/psychopaths from the start, who have a serious brain disorder, and of course, those people are going to display severe behavioral abnormalities from their earliest childhood, which would definitely prevent them from obtaining a job like the one Randall had, with a large corporation. Randall's main downhill change took place AFTER he was hired there, after he became involved with the Scream Extractor. You know, if I was asked to hand-pick the writers for the sequel, I'd step outside of Pixar. I'd pick, without hesitation, Craig McCracken and Lauren Faust, to write the script. Given what they had to work with, and the time frame they had, especially, in "Foster's Home...", they did a wonderful job of having characters undergo development, of showing plausible character arcs, in taking characters that were really dangerous and threatening, like "World", in Destination Imagination and making them sympathetic and allowing them to change, through the intervention of someone else. They showed that there are no really "good" or "bad" characters, but that people have different sides to them. We saw Wilt, who was usually perceived as Mr. Goody-Two-Shoes, cheat, resort to revenge, use violence to get his point across or remove an obstacle to his goal, and saw that he had a hair-trigger, explosive temper that could be set off by seemingly innocent things. Duchess helped Eduardo with his "make-over". Terrence let Mac borrow his video games. Everyone's favorite stick-in-the-mud, Mr. Herriman, has demonstrated his love and devotion to his elderly creator and stuck up for Frankie, whom he normally gives such a rough time to. Madame Foster opened her house to these homeless Imaginary Friends, but she also stole Mac's plane tickets to Europe. Lauren Faust pointed out, on the Never Forgotten forum, that ALL of the characters have been antagonists at some point, in that they were opposed to the character from whose perspective that episode was shown. There were really no cut-and-dry "Good Guys" or "Bad Guys", and this series was the most popular show in Cartoon Network. Good Wilt Hunting, when it debuted, was the highest-rated cable/satellite program in its time slot, out of every channel available in the US! That should say something-that people DO want to see something besides the usual "Good Guys vs. Bad Guys" and that people DO relate to flawed characters, who can make positive changes in their lives, but who are still imperfect, and therefore more "real". This is why that series attracted fans of all ages, not just little kids, and it's also why I think that if Pixar does adopt this same mentality for the sequel to M.I., it won't result in fans being "bored" or "turned off", as some posters on Pixar Planet have insisted. I don't know how to reach them, though. We have tried in the past, and have been ignored. That hurts, it really does. It's like we don't count to them. pitbulllady |
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Post by mentalguru on Jun 11, 2009 12:00:01 GMT -5
True, true. Lilo and Stitch was a fantastic movie- and you're right, redemptive arcs can be great plots.
I also adored 'Fosters Home'- and you're right, each of the characters shows some area of greyness at some point throughout the cartoons, it was pretty refreshing in that way.
Just curious to throw out to anyone: forgiveness, is of course something which would be a good theme for an M.I sequel. But what would you like the finer plot to be like? Any ideas surrounding that? If YOU wrote the script, what would be the basic story you'd write? Just for curiosity of course and if we ever DO gain contact it might be nice to show we have some ideas...
(Hopes we would not get ignored, that's not exactly polite is it?)
Fosters writers would be good- but if I can flog a tired horse- the writers of 'Avatar' would not be bad either- they didn't kill off most of the 'bad guys' (there were a few... I'll admit... still...)- they showed that although the Fire Nation were in terms of the war 'the bad guys' and invaders there were people in the Fire Nation who WERE NOT total bad guys- there were good people in the nation too. Not to mention in the 'good' nations there were some unsavory types! The main heroes were not perfect- Aang at the beginning was a bit naive and a little TOO childish for a while, and Katara to an extent was also naive, plus she has temper issues. Sokka was a racist, sexist... you get the picture. Zuko, the anti-hero for a long time, who was the guy wanting to capture Aang was kind of blind to what he had (an Uncle who loved him like a son) in his pursuit of gaining respect from his 'real' father (who didn't really love him), and did not realise for SUCH a LONG TIME that he was destined to fight WITH Aang (it did get me frustrated with him for a little while, honestly). There was also Toph (who came into Book 2- Earth), who although I love (after Aang, she's probably my favourite), she is very uncouth, rude and in your face alot of the time. It put her at odds with Katara and Aang sometimes!
The only characters I think fell flat were Suki (I never felt anything much for her, and I would not have been upset had she died really- she never gathered much hatred or love from me) and Ozai- the big bad himself- but hey at least he wasn't killed.
Bryan and Mike (or Bryke as called by fans) were not always perfect in some cases, there were some dud and filler episodes too, but overall they made a wonderful story with alot of grey and wonderful flawed characters. They'd also be a good choice.
Any other suggestions anyone?
Edit: Also who would be the WORST choice to be the writers of such a thing as an M.I.2? What would be the worst case senario for Randall or...the whole movie in fact- out of the Pixar team or even outside it? Who should not be let within three square miles of it?
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