Post by mentalguru on Sept 9, 2010 11:04:36 GMT -5
People didn't always have surnames in every part of the world. And in Europe when they decided to bring them in there would be various ways with which they'd grant you one. The most basic example would be those ending in '-son' as in that person was the 'son' of someone. Sometimes they'd use objects or things in the area they lived. Other times they sometimes had names relating to an occupation.
For instance, my surname (last name) is an occupation itself, so it seems possible that waaaay back, an ancestor on my father's side held that occupation. My mother's surname is a different language but it apparently means something the lines of 'raven of peace'.
But I've looked around a bit and the name 'Waternoose' doesn't seem to be around anywhere. Feeling a little annoyed, I decided to split the name up a little to see if I got further. The closest I got to was a name called 'Waters' which was 'given to one who navigated the waters, or resided near them'. Possibly interesting.
There doesn't seem to be anything relating to the 'Noose' part, but if we consider possible occupations and perhaps a unique monster surname which never formed in our world or at least not with humans, could the idea be like an executioner or someone who held that job? Or someone who lived near gallows. Perhaps two families, one whose ancestors either lived near water (or navigated it) and the other who had an executioner/lived near gallows as an ancestor combined their names when the two families came together for some reason.
This has happened in history before with humans anyway, where two surnames come together and become that families surname which further ancestors will always hold through the male line except in extenuating circumstances (unlike in Spain etc. where they change things around every generation). In fact where I used to be a tour guide, a man combined both his mother's surname AND the one he recieved from his father in order to inherit the property (since only males holding his mother's surname could inherit it to begin with and both his Uncle's were dead by that stage). Of course he had a '-' in between, but perhaps over time Waters- Noose became Waternoose, because names can change over time for various reasons. There also can be different variations of the name as well.
Just curious as to what you think about this idea. Kind of random to think about but the fact I couldn't find anything relating to Waternooses surname kind of bothered me when you could find it for other characters fairly easily.
For instance, my surname (last name) is an occupation itself, so it seems possible that waaaay back, an ancestor on my father's side held that occupation. My mother's surname is a different language but it apparently means something the lines of 'raven of peace'.
But I've looked around a bit and the name 'Waternoose' doesn't seem to be around anywhere. Feeling a little annoyed, I decided to split the name up a little to see if I got further. The closest I got to was a name called 'Waters' which was 'given to one who navigated the waters, or resided near them'. Possibly interesting.
There doesn't seem to be anything relating to the 'Noose' part, but if we consider possible occupations and perhaps a unique monster surname which never formed in our world or at least not with humans, could the idea be like an executioner or someone who held that job? Or someone who lived near gallows. Perhaps two families, one whose ancestors either lived near water (or navigated it) and the other who had an executioner/lived near gallows as an ancestor combined their names when the two families came together for some reason.
This has happened in history before with humans anyway, where two surnames come together and become that families surname which further ancestors will always hold through the male line except in extenuating circumstances (unlike in Spain etc. where they change things around every generation). In fact where I used to be a tour guide, a man combined both his mother's surname AND the one he recieved from his father in order to inherit the property (since only males holding his mother's surname could inherit it to begin with and both his Uncle's were dead by that stage). Of course he had a '-' in between, but perhaps over time Waters- Noose became Waternoose, because names can change over time for various reasons. There also can be different variations of the name as well.
Just curious as to what you think about this idea. Kind of random to think about but the fact I couldn't find anything relating to Waternooses surname kind of bothered me when you could find it for other characters fairly easily.
Okay, I officially don't get this topic....surname means last name so why call a last name a surname....I know that for my last name, nothing special cause it's just like all of the other common hispanic last names out there....so...yeah but as far as that guy in Spain you were talking about? Just sounds like he basically add a dash in his name cause normally most spanish speaking people or hispanics and such, our whole name is as follows
Technically what you call crisps is correct since you Americans INVENTED the tasty-yet-unhealthy things but I think we already had that word for something else anyway in the whole fries versus chips thing so that's why we call it something else)