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Post by lizardgirl on Jul 14, 2005 12:02:58 GMT -5
;D
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Post by RandallBoggs on Jul 15, 2005 12:19:24 GMT -5
Checkmate Cool.....
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Post by lizardgirl on Jul 16, 2005 9:33:59 GMT -5
Except I was talking about Jurrasic Park the original, in which the carnivores ARE considered evil.
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Post by RandallBoggs on Jul 16, 2005 12:30:14 GMT -5
"Yeah...well...your's may be a classic....but the 3rd one's the latest"
Ha...
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Post by lizardgirl on Jul 18, 2005 10:31:44 GMT -5
Firstly, Jurassic Park is a looooong way off from being a classic, and secondly, YOU commented on what *I* was talking about, and I was talking about the original Jurassic Park, so what you said did not apply.
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Post by RandallBoggs on Jul 18, 2005 10:33:18 GMT -5
"Is she trying to trick us?"
Ehh...either way we're still right ^_^
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Post by Veg on Jul 19, 2005 22:50:39 GMT -5
All right, all right. Lets get on with the facinating stuff about pigs.
Pigs form complex social units and learn from one another in ways previously observed exclusively among primates. For example, pigs use clever ploys to try to outsmart each other. Pigs often learn how to follow others to food before snatching it away. Those who are tricked learn to change their behavior in order to reduce the number of times they are deceived. And Dr. Mike Mendyl notes that pigs can signal their competitive strength and “use this information to minimize overt aggression during disputes about social ranks,” just like many primates (including humans). He explains that “pigs can develop quite sophisticated social competitive behavior, similar to that seen in some primate species.”
Pigs communicate constantly with one another. More than 20 of their oinks, grunts, and squeals have been identified for different situations, from wooing their mates to expressing, “I’m hungry!”
Pigs have a very long memory. Dr. Curtis put a ball, a Frisbee, and a dumbbell in front of several pigs and was able to teach them to jump over, sit next to, or fetch any of the objects when asked to and they could distinguish between the objects three years later.
Scientists at the University of Illinois have learned that not only do pigs have temperature preferences, they also will learn through trial and error how to turn on the heat in a cold barn if given the chance and turn it off again when they are too warm.
Professor Donald Broom of Cambridge University Veterinary School says, “[Pigs] have the cognitive ability to be quite sophisticated. Even more so than dogs and certainly three-year-olds.”
Suzanne Held, who studies the cognitive abilities of farm animals at the University of Bristol’s Centre of Behavioural Biology, says that pigs are “really good at remembering where food is located, because in their natural environment food is patchily distributed and it pays to revisit profitable food patches.”
Newborn piglets learn to run to their mothers’ voices, and mother pigs sing to their young while nursing.
Pigs are actually very clean animals. If given sufficient space, pigs will be careful not to excrete near where they sleep or eat. Pigs don’t “sweat like pigs”; they are actually unable to sweat. Pigs like to bathe in water or mud to keep cool.
Pigs do not “eat like pigs” or “pig out.” They prefer to eat slowly and savor their foods.
Like us, pigs form close bonds. They like being scratched and, at the touch of your hand, will contentedly roll over for a belly rub. They also snuggle close to one another and prefer to sleep nose to nose.
Like dogs, piglets learn their names by 2 to 3 weeks of age and respond when called.
Pigs prefer water to mud. One woman developed a shower for her pigs, and these astute animals learned to turn it on and off.
Pigs appear to have a good sense of direction and have found their way home over great distances. Adults can run at speeds of up to 11 miles an hour.
Pigs have shown gentleness and forgiveness. Norwegian author Bergljot Borresen writes about a mountain farmer who mistreated his pig. The pig locked her jaws into his thigh but didn’t bite down. The farmer believed it was a warning not to treat her unkindly again. In her own way, she gave him another chance.
Author John Robbins notes that “unlike dogs, horses and humans, they will never dangerously overeat even when given access to unlimited food.” The pork industry, however, has wreaked havoc on this healthful habit with a drug called Hog-Crave, which causes pigs to overeat so that they will grow faster and will thus be more profitable to those who kill them.
Pigs have been known to save the lives of others, including their human friends.
According to The Daily Telegraph, “a pet piglet called Pru was praised by her owner … after dragging her free from a muddy bog.” The owner said, “I was panicking when I was stuck in the bog. I did not know what to do and I think Pru sensed that. … I had a rope with me that I use as a dog lead and I put it around her. I was shouting ‘Go home, go home’ and she walked forward, slowly pulling me out of the mud.”
Like dogs, pigs have done many heroic deeds. Babe’s real-life counterparts have rescued human and nonhuman companions, stopped intruders in their tracks, and even saved themselves from slaughterhouses. In addition to the previously mentioned piglet Pru, who dragged her human companion from a muddy bog, there is also Priscilla, who saved a young boy from drowning; Spammy, who led firefighters to a burning shed to save her calf friend Spot; and Lulu, who found help for her human companion who had collapsed from a heart attack. A pig named Tunia chased away an intruder, and another named Mona held a fleeing suspect’s leg until the police arrived. A pig in New Jersey jumped off a truck en route to the slaughterhouse, while in England, a stone carving of a pig named Butch was placed upon a historic cathedral after Butch and his friend Sundance escaped from a slaughterhouse and roamed the country for several days before being captured. Fortunately, a national outcry against slaughter allowed Butch and Sundance to go to a sanctuary.
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Post by RandallBoggs on Jul 22, 2005 1:20:28 GMT -5
"Jeez....now I feel kinda bad for that bacon I ate.....oh well..."
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Post by Veg on Jul 22, 2005 22:50:29 GMT -5
Just make sure you get meat from the free-ranged animals, okay?  |
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Post by pitbulllady on Jul 23, 2005 0:44:45 GMT -5
I certainly do; meat from the grocery store is a rip-off, at the least. They soak it in water, so it will weigh more, and when it's cooked, the water evaporates, and you aren't left with much! I won't even get into all the hormones, steroids(yeah, all that stuff that's banned for athletes is still legal to use to "bulk up" feeder cattle and hogs, and guess where it all ends up?), antibiotics and junk that's used on feedlot animals. Fortunately, I live in an area where many people do still raise their own farm animals, the old-fashioned way. It's more expensive, but sometimes the old ways are better. I get eggs and milk from a guy down the road who has chickens running all over the yard-none of those little tiny pens and chickens with their beaks chopped off so they can't peck themselves to death. I've milked the cow myself; the guy has his own Pasturizing machine and everything! You wouldn't believe the difference in really fresh milk and the stuff in supermarkets, same with eggs. It takes two so-called "large" supermarket eggs to equal ONE yard chicken egg! People who have never had a real farm-fresh egg, like people who've never eaten a backyard-grown, vine-ripened tomato, simply have never had the real thing!
pitbulllady
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Post by RandallBoggs on Jul 23, 2005 2:22:35 GMT -5
"Ahh....late...anyway....personally I don't see a difference..."
This coming from a guy who ate chickens alive before I found him...
".....Well I do have good taste now....."
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