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Post by RandallBoggs on Jul 10, 2005 16:07:34 GMT -5
Well....humans ARE animals....so...ones like cows and such should not be taken into account for their intellegence or antyhing like that....
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Post by pitbulllady on Jul 10, 2005 17:28:26 GMT -5
I agree that intelligence of any species should not factor into whether or not they deserve humane treatment, but it doesn't preclude them from winding up in the food chain, either. We humans aren't always at the top, for that matter. We are part of the whole thing, and we sometimes do end up on the menu.
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Post by RandallBoggs on Jul 10, 2005 17:42:08 GMT -5
Which is something many humans forget...
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Post by lizardgirl on Jul 11, 2005 12:43:45 GMT -5
Yeah- there are plenty of animals out there that can eat us.
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Post by Veg on Jul 11, 2005 18:30:45 GMT -5
Well, technically meat-eating animals leave humans alone, unless they are old or injured. That is when they might eat us, if they are old or injured.
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Post by pitbulllady on Jul 11, 2005 20:30:32 GMT -5
Most carnivorous animals do leave humans alone, mainly because they've learned to fear us, though in some parts of the world even now, especially Africa(where there are so many civil wars going on, and AIDS is rampant)hyenas have added humans to their regular menu. They got a taste for us from eating dead bodies, and for something as powerful as a hyena, there's not much difference between a live, healthy human and a dead one, anyway. We make easy meals for anything that bothers to give us a try-no claws, no sharp teeth, can't run fast, can't fly, no bothersome fur or feathers.
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Post by lizardgirl on Jul 12, 2005 10:42:40 GMT -5
I hate it when some kind of 'sweet' animal is eaten by its natural predator on a nature show, and then everyone says 'oh, that's so sad, blah blah blah'. It's nature. Get over it.
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Post by pitbulllady on Jul 12, 2005 11:10:04 GMT -5
Yeah, me too. My mother used to get really upset that the filmmakers didn't interfere and rescue the "sweet" deer or whatever from the mean ole wolves or leopard. I've always "identified" with predators, anyway, and understood even as a very small child that this was the natural order of things. My grandfather had explained it to me when I was hardly more than a toddler, about animals eating other animals, and it just stuck with me. Growing up on a farm, one of the things I learned from an early age was that seemingly harmless animals, like cows, were the ones MOST likely to hurt you. If it had horns and hooves, and ESPECIALLY if it has horns, hooves AND testosterone, it's dangerous. Goats actually kill more people annually in the US than snakes do, though a person dying of a ruptured spleen after a butting from a billy goat doesn't make headlines.
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Post by RandallBoggs on Jul 12, 2005 12:02:13 GMT -5
Well actually.... Some carnivorous, intellegent animals, mainly avoid mankind though...."watch" them....
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Post by pitbulllady on Jul 12, 2005 12:06:55 GMT -5
That's because the carnivores are the animals which we've so relentlessly persecuted and tried to wipe out, due to the still-held belief(which is quite ironic)that wild animals which eat other animals are "evil", while herbivores are "good". Wild carnivores like wolves have learned to avoid humans.
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Post by RandallBoggs on Jul 12, 2005 12:14:06 GMT -5
True. Many considered a dang....no....a "threat" to mankind is considered to be wiped out as you say, or forced to "back off" as much as possible....
We've done it before with more.....shall we say...."facinating" creatures.
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Post by lizardgirl on Jul 13, 2005 10:13:07 GMT -5
That's because the carnivores are the animals which we've so relentlessly persecuted and tried to wipe out, due to the still-held belief(which is quite ironic)that wild animals which eat other animals are "evil", while herbivores are "good". Wild carnivores like wolves have learned to avoid humans. pitbulllady Yeah- if you've seen Jurrasic Park, you'll know that they've done EXACTLY that- all of the carnivores are 'evil' and all of the herbivores are 'good'.
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Post by RandallBoggs on Jul 13, 2005 13:10:43 GMT -5
Well actually....I'll use the same movie to go against that...
In Jurrasic Park 3, Raptors cared more about helping their fellow members and protecting their young then they did having four delecious humans caught between them.
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Post by lizardgirl on Jul 14, 2005 10:38:51 GMT -5
I meant the original one. Though it's true that at the end, the T-Rex ate the Raptors. Personally, I think all the dinosaurs are fascinating, and you've gotta love that scene with the Brachiosaurus. ;D
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Post by RandallBoggs on Jul 14, 2005 10:58:41 GMT -5
Ah..... But I'm still right though. all of the carnivores are NOT to be considered 'evil' and all of the herbivores are 'good'.
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