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Post by pitbulllady on Jul 19, 2005 12:44:57 GMT -5
Remember I told y'all about Jess Winfield, head writer/director for the "Lilo and Stitch" tv series, popping in on the old TVTome.com board for that show? AND he listened to and encouraged feedback from fans? Now, Lauren Faust, who is a head writer for "Foster's Home For Imaginary Friends" and the fiance' of that show's creator, Craig McCracken, has shown up on the TV.com board for that show, to field some questions from viewers and get a "feel" for what the fans want, although this does not mean taking people's episode ideas point-blank. Now, WHY can't someone from Disney or Pixar be bothered to do that HERE? They claim that they are really so interested in pleasing fans, yet no one hears from them. I think it's wonderful that the people behind shows on both Cartoon Network and the Disney Channel are so in tuned with their fans, but those who work for the movie studios need to "get out more often" too!
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Sparky
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Post by Sparky on Jul 19, 2005 14:22:30 GMT -5
I was always under the impression that it wasn't allowed, and potentially could turn into big messes - imagine one or several fans angrily going to the press with a story about a company coming to a message board or fanfiction.net or whathaveyou claiming that their story/character idea was stolen? It sounds like a recipe for disaster if you ask me. Now, fielding questions at a convention seems a whole lot "safer". I dunno, just my thoughts...not that I didn't spring a question over at tv.com, lol.  |
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Post by pitbulllady on Jul 19, 2005 16:59:46 GMT -5
This is true; studio people cannot accept scripts, fanfics, etc., BUT they CAN read or listen to feedback from fans concerning which way the fans would most like to see a series or movie go, or whether a character should be "killed off", etc. That's all I want to do; just have someone from Disney hear us out and be made aware that there are a LOT of people who really like Randall, who want to see him return in a sequel, but NOT as the "heavy" again, to be made a food of or worse. I don't think a lot of big studios are really "in tune" with fans nowadays, but take the advice of market analysts who tell them what THEY think the public wants. It's always good when people from studios or networks do listen to fans, and keep their fingers on the "pulse" of a fandom, so to speak. They can use feedback from fans to develope scripts, etc., without directly plagerising any one piece of work. This was done in the "Lilo and Stitch" series; fans on the very-active Yahoo Group, as well as TVTome.com, had been expressing concerns prior to the series' release that Stitch would just be a total wuss and loose that "edge" he has, and later, after the series came out, that Nani was becoming a mean, overbearing, uncaring ...well, you know the word I'm thinking of. These concerns were acknowledged and addressed by Jess Winfield, and later scripts reflected changes that fans would most like to have seen.
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Post by MelTSS on Jul 20, 2005 2:37:01 GMT -5
I thought it was because they just didn't really want to.
Maybe they go on sites like these and find posts like these, but ignore them.
Plus, episodes are alot smaller and easier to make than movies.
So...*shrug*
*goes back under bed and hides*
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Post by pitbulllady on Jul 20, 2005 11:59:32 GMT -5
I thought it was because they just didn't really want to. Maybe they go on sites like these and find posts like these, but ignore them. Plus, episodes are alot smaller and easier to make than movies. So...*shrug* *goes back under bed and hides* The ease of making a tv episode vs. a feature-length movie isn't the point-the point is people actually LISTENING to and TAKING HEED of what fans want. If indeed someone from Disney or Pixar DOES visit these boards, and ignores what they see, then that makes them arrogant, uncaring fools. Ignore your fans, and those fans will soon ignore YOU. It also makes a blatant liar out of Pixar's John Lasseter, who was on "60 Minutes" stating on a tv interview(which I have on tape)that his number one priority was to listen to fans and give the fans what THEY want. If they do not in fact do this, he LIED, plain and simple. pitbulllady |
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Post by AvistheCrow on Jul 20, 2005 13:24:18 GMT -5
Perhaps merchandising has something to do with it? When it comes to plushies and toys one of the largest buying sections is little kids--who always go for the big fluffy character or the funny sarcastic character, not the lizard guy. Disney could make a heck of a lot more on merchandise for Sulley and Mike than they could for Randall.
Probably no reason whatsoever, but just a thought. I mean, when I was watching the DVD extras and they showed MI toys, they had nearly a hundred various M&S items, and about two of Randall. Plah.
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Post by pitbulllady on Jul 20, 2005 20:15:43 GMT -5
Yeah, but the biggest mistake Disney and other companies who have popular characters make is to assume that only little kids will want merchandise in the first place. True, Sulley and Mike ARE more popular with little kids, BUT Randall has proven himself to be more popular overrall, and that includes a lot of teens and adults. Disney almost made a huge mistake when "Lilo and Stitch" came out, in that everything related to that movie was for small children-no adult-sized clothing, no collectibles, etc. It took an enormous, and very successful, letter-writing campaign along with what almost amounted to harrassment of Disney Store employees to get the message across that adults loved Stitch, too, and were willing to shell out major bucks to get their hands on adult clothing, coffee mugs, figurines, beach towels, license tags, even pet dishes and leashes, but it worked. They realized that they would be missing out on a huge financial opportunity by not making anything for adults, and I believe that they're still missing the boat when it comes to Randall.
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ScrewyOldDame
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Post by ScrewyOldDame on Jul 20, 2005 22:55:29 GMT -5
I totally agree with Pitbull Lady. There are risks of course, but in both examples she's given, has that happened? Nope. It is pretty ironic that Pixar claims to be a chronically people - pleasing company I really make no effort to contact the fans.
I believe they most likely just don't want to take the time.
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Post by AvistheCrow on Jul 20, 2005 23:02:45 GMT -5
Yeah...*groan* It's always so painful to see that Lilo and Stitch got its payday, but Randall never got his. *hugs Randall*
*and waits for the inevitable Sean/Ran comment forthwith*
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Post by lizardgirl on Jul 21, 2005 12:09:02 GMT -5
And the worst thing is that now, because it has been around three years since MI came out, unless there's some sort of sequel, Randall will probably never get his payday.
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Post by RandallBoggs on Jul 22, 2005 1:18:13 GMT -5
Hmm....
I need to establish some connections inside and out.....
But till then....
Where's Light Rises? Didn't she say she would be going to Pixar Studios again like she did last time?
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Post by ScrewyOldDame on Jul 22, 2005 2:54:26 GMT -5
*Glomps Randall with Avis* Poor baby!  * Light Rises has been to Pixar? Wow! 'Splain, Lucy! |
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Post by RandallBoggs on Jul 22, 2005 2:58:54 GMT -5
Yep....but surprisingly forgot about us heh heh ^_^ Sorry to remind ya Lighty ^_^
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Post by AvistheCrow on Jul 23, 2005 13:13:57 GMT -5
 LR, your popularity just shot through the roof round these parts XD *hugs* Sorry! |
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Post by RandallBoggs on Jul 24, 2005 2:11:13 GMT -5
*laughs* (can't reach smilies from Quick reply ^_^)
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LR, your popularity just shot through the roof round these parts XD *hugs* Sorry!