tmazanec1
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Post by tmazanec1 on Jan 16, 2007 15:54:58 GMT -5
Near the beginning of the film Mike imitates a radio announcer. He says the weather is balmy, which is good news for you reptiles. I thought this might help anti-reptilianism...they are "handicapped" by cold weather and thus are something of a burden on society. But then I remembered about Watermoose...a crab. And tentacles imply mollusks. These are cold blooded too. In fact, just about everything except mammals and birds are cold-blooded. Wouldn't most monsters be cold-blooded?
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Post by lizardgirl on Jan 18, 2007 15:42:46 GMT -5
Well, if that were the case, then Mons like Waternoose wouldn't really be able to say in Monstropolis over the winter. I think their cases are probably the same as Randall's- although outwardly, they look like they should be cold-blooded, inside, they have evolved to be warm-blooded. If that was not the case, then those Mons would probably be somewhere that had a warmer climate instead of Monstropolis.
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Post by pitbulllady on Jan 18, 2007 19:39:49 GMT -5
Near the beginning of the film Mike imitates a radio announcer. He says the weather is balmy, which is good news for you reptiles. I thought this might help anti-reptilianism...they are "handicapped" by cold weather and thus are something of a burden on society. But then I remembered about Watermoose...a crab. And tentacles imply mollusks. These are cold blooded too. In fact, just about everything except mammals and birds are cold-blooded. Wouldn't most monsters be cold-blooded? No, because the monsters AREN'T crabs, mollusks, reptiles, etc. They just have some physical characteristics of those animals, especially in regards to outward appearances. Waternoose may LOOK like a crab, but he's clearly something far more complex, biologically, than that. Crabs and other crustaceans, like their close land relatives, spiders and scorpions, don't even have a true circulatory system, with veins and arteries, or blood in the same sense that we do, but have instead a blue, copper-based fluid called "hemoglyph". Many crustaceans and arachnids DO have a sort of "anti-freeze" in their hemoglyph, though, which allows them to survive some bitterly cold temperatures, such as those of the Bering Sea, where Alaskan King Crabs live. RANDALL certainly is not cold-blooded, or he would have gone into instant thermal shock as soon as that door to the Himalayas was opened, with him standing right there. Living in a temperate climate, one where there are definate seasons(again, I refer to the trees lining the streets of Monstropolis), he'd have to hibernate from October through April, and what company is going to hire anyone who has to take that much time off just to SLEEP? It was November in the movie, which means a reptile in a temperate zone would already have been either in hibernation, or beginning to go into hibernation, slowing down its metabolism even further through chemicals released by its brain in response to the shortened daylight. Obviously, Randall wasn't slowed down at all, other than by stress and fatigue, something we all experience, cold-blooded or not. Randall also has a muscular diaphragm for breathing, something reptiles lack, which is a feature of mammals, so metabolically, he's far more human than reptilian! You can't let Mike's fake "radio announcement" be a basis for anything; Mike probably had no clue himself what the actual temperature was outside, as I doubt seriously that he'd bothered to check. He was just improvising that whole thing to make a big issue out of waking Sulley up, thinking it would be funny to imitate a clock radio alarm. Seeing as how Mike is such a habitual liar throughout the whole movie, I wouldn't trust him if he yelled "FIRE" and I smelled smoke! pitbulllady
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Post by RandallBoggs on Jan 19, 2007 20:16:47 GMT -5
Mons were once human-like. Humans are warmblooded, thus Monsters derive from warmblooded evolution.
HOWEVER..... It depends on the unstable elements found in what transformed the Mons physical characteristics. IF it is able to alter internally, then yes, some Mons may be cold-blooded. However, I'm sticking to warm blood for now.
Wazowski is making another racial stab at reptiles, as in school reptiles, none Mon, are discussed as being cold-blooded.
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Veg
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Post by Veg on Jan 19, 2007 22:40:29 GMT -5
Near the beginning of the film Mike imitates a radio announcer. He says the weather is balmy, which is good news for you reptiles. I thought this might help anti-reptilianism...they are "handicapped" by cold weather and thus are something of a burden on society. But then I remembered about Watermoose...a crab. And tentacles imply mollusks. These are cold blooded too. In fact, just about everything except mammals and birds are cold-blooded. Wouldn't most monsters be cold-blooded? No, because the monsters AREN'T crabs, mollusks, reptiles, etc. They just have some physical characteristics of those animals, especially in regards to outward appearances. Waternoose may LOOK like a crab, but he's clearly something far more complex, biologically, than that. Crabs and other crustaceans, like their close land relatives, spiders and scorpions, don't even have a true circulatory system, with veins and arteries, or blood in the same sense that we do, but have instead a blue, copper-based fluid called "hemoglyph". Many crustaceans and arachnids DO have a sort of "anti-freeze" in their hemoglyph, though, which allows them to survive some bitterly cold temperatures, such as those of the Bering Sea, where Alaskan King Crabs live. RANDALL certainly is not cold-blooded, or he would have gone into instant thermal shock as soon as that door to the Himalayas was opened, with him standing right there. Living in a temperate climate, one where there are definate seasons(again, I refer to the trees lining the streets of Monstropolis), he'd have to hibernate from October through April, and what company is going to hire anyone who has to take that much time off just to SLEEP? It was November in the movie, which means a reptile in a temperate zone would already have been either in hibernation, or beginning to go into hibernation, slowing down its metabolism even further through chemicals released by its brain in response to the shortened daylight. Obviously, Randall wasn't slowed down at all, other than by stress and fatigue, something we all experience, cold-blooded or not. Randall also has a muscular diaphragm for breathing, something reptiles lack, which is a feature of mammals, so metabolically, he's far more human than reptilian! You can't let Mike's fake "radio announcement" be a basis for anything; Mike probably had no clue himself what the actual temperature was outside, as I doubt seriously that he'd bothered to check. He was just improvising that whole thing to make a big issue out of waking Sulley up, thinking it would be funny to imitate a clock radio alarm. Seeing as how Mike is such a habitual liar throughout the whole movie, I wouldn't trust him if he yelled "FIRE" and I smelled smoke! pitbulllady Yeah. Maybe a cake might be burning and he overreacts.
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Post by pitbulllady on Jan 20, 2007 12:17:10 GMT -5
It's more a matter of nothing actually happening at all, and Mike just making it all up and lying about it. How can you ever trust the word of someone who can make up as many lies as he can, completely straight-faced? You just can't. You never can tell if they're telling the truth, or yet-another "whopper", and sometimes, I wonder if people like Mike can even distinguish between their own lies and reality.
pitbulllady
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Post by RandallBoggs on Jan 20, 2007 20:12:58 GMT -5
Wazowski would go as far as boiling water into steam to just enhance the dillusion.
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Veg
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Post by Veg on Jan 21, 2007 22:05:17 GMT -5
Which to prove how stupid it is to boil water in a stream!
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