tmazanec1
Randall's Head Servant (300-799)
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Post by tmazanec1 on Oct 29, 2006 23:46:35 GMT -5
For about five weeks RB's last remark pestered me, and I finally think I got a finger on what it is. 1) Mike and Sully knew about the abominable snowman being banished (along with Nessie and Bigfoot). Mike pointed out to Sully that this was what they had in common...banishment. 2) Mike and Sully are typical workers at a major corporation. It is safe to assume if they treat the A.S. banishment so matter-of-factly than it is common knowledge throughout the corporation. 3) If it is common knowledge throughout a corporation that big, it is common knowledge everywhere. 4) Watermoose had the door which led to the Himalayas the A.S. had been banished through. Total up, and this is as if it were well known that Bill Gates had a private electric chair for any employee whom he disliked. While there was a funny (but now dated) joke in the late Nineties about Bill Gates being one of the three most powerful people on Earth, he isn't THAT powerful. What did the Abominable do to desrve banishment? The only fault I saw in him was over friendliness, hardly cause for the equivalent of the death penalty. He was banished through the door H2OAlces used on Mike and Sully. So how secret is his "illegal" door? Do all the employees know about it hanging over their heads like a Sword of Damocles? Are they silent like the Manhatten Project scientists? It is hard to believe something like that would stay secret long. There IS a lot more to this incident than meets the eye.
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Post by lizardgirl on Oct 30, 2006 3:33:30 GMT -5
Hmm...You've raised some good points. Personally, I've always suspected that the employees of MI always suspected that there were banishments doors, but that this was actually just a rumour. If it was common knowledge and fact that Waternoose banished monsters, then he would have been in prison long ago.
Instead, it's just a rumour, probably stirred up by those that don't like Waternoose. Most of his employees, on the other hand, see this grandfatherly, pleasant old man and don't suspect a thing, as there would have been no proof to these banishment rumours.
I believe that one of the main reasons that Waternoose was arrested at the end was for banishing monsters. Sure, kidnapping humans is not a good thing, but if you think about most monster's attitudes to humans, then it would be only considered minor compared to banishing a fellow Mon.
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Post by pitbulllady on Oct 30, 2006 7:15:56 GMT -5
Just because the door in the factory led to the Himalayas, does not mean that this is the one through which the ABS was banished. Waternoose could probably have it programmed to open up anywhere in the Human World that he chose. The Himalayas would be a good choice for banishing someone that he really wished dead, since they are known for being a very hostile environment. More than likely, the "high profile" banishments that Mike and Sulley were aware of had come about as the result of highly publicized trials, and most likely were not connected to the factory or the Monsters, Inc. company at all. Mike was assuming that if he and Sulley got caught and arrested, they'd be put on trial, too, found guilty of harboring a human child(which was a menace to monster society), and ultimately banished as well. Since at that point at which Mike and Sulley are approaching the factory, neither had any knowledge of Waternoose being involved with anything illegal or unethical, they would have had no reason to assume that HE would banish anyone. Sulley was apparently good friends with the CEO, and had been for some time, which means that he and Mike were NOT exactly ordinary employees, but at least could feel a bit of extra job security knowing that one of them was a good personal friend of the boss. They obviously trusted Waternoose and had no reason to believe he'd ever do anything against them, or to harm them.
As for what the ABS might have done to deserve banishment, is anyone's guess. He certainly did not seem to be the lawless type, but then, he could have still gotten involved in some crime by following the lead of someone else, pretty much like Randall does. The ABS didn't seem to be the sharpest tack in the toolbox, and those are the sort that many criminals recruit as "mules" because they will pretty much do anything you ask them to without questioning the legality. It's also quite apparent that the ABS was a bit, as we say, a couple of fries short of a Happy Meal, but that he might not always have been like that. Banishment apparently screws up the minds of monsters who experience it, IF they survive, that is. They just apparently go insane after awhile, being forced to live like animals, with no one to talk to. The isolation and lonliness drives them crazy, and thus their personalities can change drastically.
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Veg
Randall's Friend (800-1999)
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Post by Veg on Oct 30, 2006 16:55:11 GMT -5
Yeah, like serving snowcones in a freezing climate!
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Post by RandallBoggs on Oct 30, 2006 18:40:40 GMT -5
To answer, I'll got with the bullets.
1. Banishment is perhaps similiar to the Death Penalty. Why so? Because Banishment keeps a monster in another world, away from family, friends, and their home world entirely. Such events are considered media-frenzie times.
2. The AS wasn't probably a patsy. If so, he would have discussed such a thing to Sullivan and Wazowski, as AS WAS a talker. In good spirites, he didn't deserve banishment. He probably heard something that he wasn't suppose to know. However, he enjoys the life he has now, as the climate is to his liking and the place itself is enjoyable to him.
3. As for Waternoose and the door. Scare Co.'s main executives have the "Banishment Keys" locked away. Since Scare Co. is the main operator of the scream industry, they created the keys when the Banishment punishment was created.
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