Door in the Himalayas

[tmazanec1]

What is a steel door and frame doing miles from the nearest village? How did it get there?

[pitbulllady]

My guess would be that Waternoose purposefully set it up to get rid of his "enemies", or monsters who crossed him in some way and therefore stood between him and his goals. He certainly had had the corresponding door in the factory created and activated, so he would need one in the Human World as well. The Himalayas are inhospitable and desolate, so he'd figure any monster he illegally banished there, would be as good as dead, and leave behind no messy crime scene in the Monster World.

pitbulllady

[lizardgirl]

I agree, Pitbulllady- it was probably one of several, perhaps even a dozen or so, doors that led to the middle of nowhere to act entirely as banishment doors.

[RandallBoggs]

The steel doors are reinforced doorways used for banishment. The doors themselves are set in remote areas of the human world that are hardly accessible by humans.

[tmazanec1]

But how do they get the doors to these far out locations in the Human World? Drag it from a kid's closet somewhere? Or can they just "send" it to someplace in the Human World?

[lizardgirl]

I always kind of assumed that in these cases, the Mons built the banishment doors in their own world, then activated it somehow. I'm not entirely sure how it works, though- does the door necessarily have to have existed in the Human World before hand?

[RandallBoggs]

Banishment was brought around to keep people (innocent as well) with either high standards in crime, or were noisy in some businesses, in the human world. The doors were created, but not configured till they would brought to the best (or at least difficult place for humans to get to) place.

[pitbulllady]

I would think that banishment, when carried out officially, would be a sentence handed down by a court of law in the Monster World. It would make no sense whatsoever for any and every monster to simply have the authority and right to banish any other monster. Banishment was a very severe and harsh punishment, more or less a death sentence, since even those monsters who somehow managed to survive in the Human World clearly went insane as a result of losing all contact with their own kind, and having to remain hidden to keep from being killed by humans; it would be like putting a human in permanent solitary confinement, only without even providing food or medical care that a prisoner in solitary would be entitled to. I'd guess that most banished monsters simply could not make it, and either died of starvation, exposure, illness, or they committed suicide, or would up being killed by humans. Therefore, for any and all monsters to have the right to banish any other monster, for whatever reasons, would be like saying all humans have the right to shoot any other human, just because that human made them mad, or hurt their feelings, or whatever! It would make no sense whatsoever, and would be highly detrimental to the continued existance of the Monster World.

pitbulllady

[tmazanec1]

Or they went bonkers, wove a tiara of poison ivy to wear on their heads and called themselves "King Itchy".

[lizardgirl]

pitbulllady1 said:

I would think that banishment, when carried out officially, would be a sentence handed down by a court of law in the Monster World. It would make no sense whatsoever for any and every monster to simply have the authority and right to banish any other monster. Banishment was a very severe and harsh punishment, more or less a death sentence, since even those monsters who somehow managed to survive in the Human World clearly went insane as a result of losing all contact with their own kind, and having to remain hidden to keep from being killed by humans; it would be like putting a human in permanent solitary confinement, only without even providing food or medical care that a prisoner in solitary would be entitled to. I'd guess that most banished monsters simply could not make it, and either died of starvation, exposure, illness, or they committed suicide, or would up being killed by humans. Therefore, for any and all monsters to have the right to banish any other monster, for whatever reasons, would be like saying all humans have the right to shoot any other human, just because that human made them mad, or hurt their feelings, or whatever! It would make no sense whatsoever, and would be highly detrimental to the continued existance of the Monster World.

pitbulllady

Exactly, which makes Wazowski and Sullivan's actions against Randall even more shocking.

[tmazanec1]

You know, this board has really changed (not so much deteriorated, but altered) my view of the movie. The background was what I loved about the movie, but the plot bothered me a little for some reason. Now I know what that reason was.

[lizardgirl]

Do you mean about Waternoose and what Sulley and Mike did?

[tmazanec1]

Not so much Watermoose, but what Mike and Sully did and WHY Randall did what he did.

[lizardgirl]

Hmm, yeah, because when you really start getting into the details of exactly what happened, Mike and Sulley seem more and more bad, and Randall's actions seem more and more justified.

[RandallBoggs]

There is ALLOT more to this incident than meets the eye.