Beboots
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Post by Beboots on Mar 26, 2005 12:24:32 GMT -5
...Sorry if someone's already noticed this, but I feel the need to share what I found. Anyway, I was watching the movie this morning, and noticed something. Remember that scene were Randall accedentally kidnaps Mike (instead of Boo)? You know how Sullivan and Boo hide under the table, and Randall carries the box (with Mike - but he doesn't know that) and puts in in the scream-canister boxes? He then leaves, looking around, like he doesn't want to be seen doing this (then we get into the who "oh-no-boo-makes-a-sound-Randall-turns-invisible-creepy-minimalistic-music-Sulley-almost-discovered" scene, but that's not really important to my point I'm trying to make). Anyway, the point is - why did Randall take Boo right then, and didn't allow time for Sullivan and Wazowski to leave? The obvious answer was so he wouldn't get accedentally bannished if the other two sent back the door, but Randall was trying to keep the fact that he had Boo a secret, right? If he had indeed captured Boo, Sullivan and Wazowski would still be in the room (they would have seen the capture the same way Sullivan and Boo saw Wazowski's). Why didn't Randall assume Sullivan and Wazowski were still there? They had no time to leave the scarefloor. Where did he think they were? Plothole!
Do you see what I'm getting at? I guess it could be explained away by Randall just being exhausted and not thinking, but... Thoughts?
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Post by RandallBoggs on Mar 26, 2005 14:54:46 GMT -5
Well...
This can be reffered to the missing scene....
Let me explain Beboots, as you have not seen this.
In the Monsters Inc. card series, one of the cards, number 50, had a pic of a scene NOT in the movie. This one had Randall looking out Boo's door side to side, with an unusual twist of the neck, to see if anyone was there.
Anyway. Randall didn't know anyone was around. Practically, from the point where he talks to Wazowski till that point, he had been hiding under the bed.
Proposably, Randall KNEW Sullivan and Wazowski WERE the ones who brought the kid in. He would mainly play the card that he would summon the C.D.A. to get Sullivan and Wazowski for having the kid.
In small sense, Randall heard DIDN'T hear Wazowski and Sullivan. So plainly, he thought that they dropped the kid in the door and went off.
Do you think HE expected them to stay after the trouble the kid got them in?
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Post by pitbulllady on Mar 26, 2005 16:07:57 GMT -5
That wouldn't have made much sense for Randall to have been waiting to turn Sullivan and Wazowski in for having the kid if HE had the kid(or so he thought). With his involvement, willing or not, the LAST thing he would have wanted would be to have more contact with the CDA! Plus, if he had the kid, there would be no evidence that Sullivan and Wazowksi had EVER had her, and it would be his word against theirs. We know who the CDA would have believed.
Beboots is right in that this is a bit of a plot hole. Randall had to have known that they had JUST brought her and put her through the door, and could not possibly have had time to leave the Scare Floor before he trapped "her" under the box and exited through the door. Either he was in such a hurry to catch her that he just wasn't thinking(and being tired and stressed out would not have helped)OR this is just a plot hole that the writers didn't figure on. All movies have 'em.
pitbulllady
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Post by RandallBoggs on Mar 26, 2005 16:12:22 GMT -5
Yes yes I know....I realized that...but I was kinda looking for something to say...
Umm....let me think....
Perhaps....he really DID think they leave. All though Randall didn't give them much credit, he thought they, as well as himself, wanted to end this child catastrophe, so they would just leave and let Randall handle it. In small words, Randall thought exactly that both of them would be the same as Wazowski was saying.
Besides, if Randall had been caught by the two, he had reasonable.....alternatives...
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Beboots
Randall's Head Servant (300-799)
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Post by Beboots on Mar 26, 2005 16:17:10 GMT -5
What reasonable alternatives, Sean?
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Post by RandallBoggs on Mar 26, 2005 16:25:30 GMT -5
Well....
I don't know.
He's a quick thinker. He could come up with something. Besides, he didn't know if Sullivan and Wazowski even cared about the kid.
Perhaps....perhaps he would TELL them something....
I....don't know....
I'll ask....
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Post by lizardgirl on Mar 29, 2005 6:25:12 GMT -5
I'm just backing up the theory that Randall's tired, probably quite pleased with himself for catching Boo (or so he thinks) and is not completely concentrating. ;D
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Post by Light Rises on Mar 29, 2005 13:13:56 GMT -5
I'll agree that, for the purposes of filmmaking critique, that this is indeed a minor plot hole; and that for the purposes of canon, that it was just Randall being exhausted and thus not quite paying as much attention to his surroundings as he should have been. ;D
~Light Rises
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Post by RandallBoggs on Mar 29, 2005 15:39:47 GMT -5
I have to slightly agree with Cool....though you have a good point Light Rises...
Randall probably was a little overconfident. But then again, he probably just wanted to end this all now. He wasn't taking his dear time getting out of the Scare Floor. He just wanted to get this all over with......
Strange.......err....nevermind....
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Post by RandallBoggs on Mar 29, 2005 15:40:16 GMT -5
Strange......so Waternoose did have cages........
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Beboots
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Post by Beboots on Mar 29, 2005 23:20:09 GMT -5
I'll agree that, for the purposes of filmmaking critique, that this is indeed a minor plot hole; and that for the purposes of canon, that it was just Randall being exhausted and thus not quite paying as much attention to his surroundings as he should have been. ;D *nods* I think I can accept that.  |
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Post by lizardgirl on Mar 30, 2005 7:18:16 GMT -5
Anyway, it is only a minor plothole. I remember once, a long while ago, I watched a film...I can't remember it's name, but it had ridiculous plotholes to the point that my mother was laughing so hard she fell out of her chair. ;D
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Beboots
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Post by Beboots on Mar 30, 2005 13:22:02 GMT -5
Speaking of plotholes, anybody know of any hillarious ones? For example, in the first of the LOTR movies... Gandalf's magical rejuvinating staff! Saruman takes it when he captures Gandalf, and the Grey Wizard is still staff-less when the King of Eagles gives him a lift... But he has it in Rivendell right afterwards!  ; And on that note, there's always Gimli's endless suply of axes (he breaks it during the Council of Elrond, leaves more behind in later spots...), and not to mention Legolas's quiver ("My love for you is like my quiver of arrows - never-ending."). |
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Post by lizardgirl on Mar 31, 2005 5:42:18 GMT -5
LOL!  |
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