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Post by randallsnape7 on Apr 5, 2014 10:11:55 GMT -5
I can't help but ponder these questions regarding Pixar and Disney:
1. Would Randall's redemption in 'Monsters 3' attract a stronger degree of viewer attention and earn them more money? 2. Would Disney be up for permenantly changing Randall's image from that of a static villain to a dynamic anti-hero? 3. Would Randall's new role promise better marketing for Randall Boggs/'Monsters 3' merchandise? 4. Would Randall make any appearance in the 'Monsters 3' trailers and theatrical posters, or would they keep his reappearance and ultimate moral turnaround a deep, dark secret? |
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Post by pitbulllady on Apr 5, 2014 13:13:22 GMT -5
I do think that having Randall as a leading character in the real sequel to MI(which would actually be MI2, not 3, since MU was not a sequel itself) would bring in a large audience. Randall does have a lot of fans, and the franchise in general has as lot of fans, and even the people who hate him will probably watch as long as Mike, Sulley and Boo are involved. Randall is actually a lot more popular in many Asian countries, especially Japan, than he is in the US, and it was those countries that really gave MU the box office success that it had.
Since Disney Feature Animation is now controlled by Pixar folk, it seems logical that they should no longer have a problem with changing Randall's image, and it appears that they are already making a fairly strong effort to do just that. EVERYTHING Randall related that has been released since 2013 has shown him in a more positive, sympathetic light, and I haven't seen anything that tries to push that "Randall is evil" mantra.
As for marketing, I can't say on that one. Disney does not seem to follow any logic when it comes to marketing the MI/MU characters. They surely knew that Randall had a solid fanbase already, yet produced very little Randall merch in connection with MU, compared to the other characters. They put a lot of effort, it seems, into marketing Art, and yet Art was received with a rather luke-warm reaction from fans. I don't know of anyone who outwardly dislikes Art, but he only seemed to have connected with a small group. The Perry Bros. seem to have won over a lot more fans, as did Johnny and Javier, but most of Disney's focus on character marketing with MU has been Mike and Sulley and Art and Archie the pig. There was more Randall stuff with this movie than with MI, though, and I guess that considering he was not a main character, the amount is understandable.
Again, since Pixar's trailers are often misleading and don't give much away in the first place, it's really hard to say whether they'd include Randall or how they'd show him. I think that they'd probably use Randall's redemption as a rather unexpected plot twist, so they would not want to make it obvious to the audience that this is what will happen. The events in MU did not follow a formula in which the protagonists win against all odds and achieve their dreams in the way that they wanted it to happen, and that took a lot of audience members by surprise. Everyone expected Mike and Sulley to get back into the Scare Program, graduate with a degree and then go to work immediately at MI as a Scare team. Everyone expected the OK's to REALLY beat the ROR's, and for Johnny to get some real comeuppance. None of that happened. I'd imagine the trailer for MI2 would make it appear that Randall is just out for revenge, angry and bitter, and then when people go to the actual movie in theaters, they will see that "heel-face turn" happen gradually, probably including some references that harken back to "Randy" in MU.
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Post by randallsnape7 on Apr 5, 2014 13:20:06 GMT -5
Uh... correction: It would NOT be called 'Monsters, Inc. 2'. 'Monsters, Inc.' IS 'Monsters 2', now that 'Monsters University has now been established as 'Monsters 1'. The third Monsters film would simply say 'Monsters..... whatever description, something dramatic', and that alone would be enough.
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Post by randallsnape7 on Apr 6, 2014 20:22:29 GMT -5
Additional comment: Good thoughts on the trailers!
Actually, when I think about it, a VERY effective way Randall could be shown in the 'Monsters 3' theatrical trailer, and yet at the same time, not reveal anything about his actual role in the movie, would be for him to NOT appear throughout the main bulk/story of the trailer, but then... after the movie title is shown at the end, it could have one of those tantalizing tag scenes usually put in exclusively for the die-hard geeks and fanboys in the audience, by showing Randall briefly at the VERY end of the trailer, as a teaser (a la Darth Vader in the black suit at the end of the 'Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith' theatrical trailer), just as a way of saying shrewdly onscreen to the audience "Yes, Randall fans. HE'S BACK.", and just leave it at that, followed by the release date.
A teaser appearance like that is the kind that would cause a whooping wave of applause from Randall fans in an audience, and could actually strengthen the anticipation of the new film.
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Post by seafoamonster on Apr 22, 2014 19:40:16 GMT -5
What a good idea! I hope they really do just that.
PBL, do you think they will? Or that they even will do another Monsters?
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Post by pitbulllady on Apr 22, 2014 20:10:56 GMT -5
What a good idea! I hope they really do just that. PBL, do you think they will? Or that they even will do another Monsters? I do think that there will be another "Monsters" film, though it apparently will be another 6-7 years at least before we see one, though I can't say whether Randall will play a role in it or not, of if he does, what that role might be. I can only HOPE that it's a positive role. pitbulllady |
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Post by seafoamonster on May 5, 2014 19:36:43 GMT -5
Yeah, but how big do you think his role'll be?
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Post by pitbulllady on May 5, 2014 21:44:49 GMT -5
Yeah, but how big do you think his role'll be? Well, if my hunch is correct, Randall should have a big role, if not the lead role. He is the only one of the original cast from MI, along with Mike and Sulley, who really had any role at all in MU. Sulley's movie was the first one, Mike's was MU, now who does that leave? pitbulllady |
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Post by randallsnape7 on May 5, 2014 21:58:07 GMT -5
In terms of length, I don't know... but I DO know this:
If Pixar redeems Randall, they will give him a HUGE role to play in the climax of the film, possibly with a tear-jerker revelation that he's really not as bad as most audiences believed. It would be important from a storytelling perspective to show some of Randall's childhood, where he grew up, who raised him, and allow us to hear RANDALL'S dreams, RANDALL'S hopes, RANDALL'S fears, and RANDALL'S emotions.
Imagine a cute, ADORABLE lil' 6-year-old chameleon hopping and jumping around a grassy meadow, playfully chasing butterflies and smiling... just enjoying his life while his mommy cooks dinner. Hee, hee!
To do it successfully, and give us a climactic payoff, Pixar will have to re-introduce Randall from a sentimental, relatable, endearing way... shedding new light on his life to make him endearing to viewers. That is, in the whole process of redeeming him for the story, and for posterity's sake, for that matter.
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