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Post by pitbulllady on Mar 18, 2014 15:35:11 GMT -5
also, unfortunately, Cars 3. This was confirmed today by Disney's CEO Bob Iger. At this stage nothing is known about the plot of TI2, only that Brad Bird is writing the script, so it's still in pre-production and as of yet no release date has been set. I'm now guessing that Cars 3, which I could do without, will be that "mystery sequel" planned for a 2017 release, rather than a real sequel to MI, which I think we'd all agree would be OUR pick. Anyway, here's the link to the news: www.rotoscopers.com/2014/03/18/breaking-disney-finally-is-making-the-incredibles-2-also-cars-3-confirmed/Just what this means for the MI franchise, I have no idea. I'm just now afraid that either Pixar has scrapped the idea completely or they will wait another 12 years before releasing it. pitbulllady |
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Post by CrazyDiamond on Mar 18, 2014 16:01:00 GMT -5
I think we'll get a MI sequel, but it'll take a bit longer than expected. There's too much money to be made to ignore it. I doubt it's going to be 12 years due to Billy Crystal's age, so my guess is 5 to 7 years. Also, Pixar recently shared their intention to speed up their production, so maybe we'll see it sooner rather than later.
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Post by pitbulllady on Mar 18, 2014 16:23:39 GMT -5
I think we'll get a MI sequel, but it'll take a bit longer than expected. There's too much money to be made to ignore it. I doubt it's going to be 12 years due to Billy Crystal's age, so my guess is 5 to 7 years. Also, Pixar recently shared their intention to speed up their production, so maybe we'll see it sooner rather than later. I sure hope so. All of the main MI monster cast voice actors-Billy Crystal, John Goodman and Steve Buscemi-are getting "up there" in age, along with me. Goodman has already had some health issues, and I don't think that anyone else could or SHOULD voice those characters. But seriously, Cars 3? I know that it sells a crap-load of toys and merchandise, here in the US, anyway. Little boys just eat that stuff up, but Disney should have gotten a clue from the lousy box office performance of Planes, which, while not a Pixar movie per se, was connected to John Lasseter and did take place in the "Cars Universe". pitbulllady |
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Post by RandallBoggs on Mar 18, 2014 19:58:08 GMT -5
The Incredibles 2 is something a lot of Pixar fans have been waiting for and personally...I think, yeah, there's material there. Superheroes in general have a large base to work from. Don't think so? Look at all those comics heh...Marvel alone is...oh right...sorry...DISNEY'S Marvel alone has a lot of superheroes (oh jeez, please, no crossovers. Mentions maybe, but no crossovers).
It will be interesting to see the kids a little older, maybe even aiming to keep the Incredibles group afloat with mum and dad growing a little slower at things. Violet's new perspective on life was a subtle change in the first Incredibles, so hopefully get to see the results of that. And Dash? Teenage boys, a nightmare.
As for Cars 3...I...don't see it. I even played the Cars playset for Infinity and...wasn't impressed much.
They had a sale recently and I managed to get the LAST Cars playset they had in stock (yep, even the back room was empty)...so...yeah, apparently Cars is, at the least, Pixar's jump base for cash-in.
Dunno why, just something about cars for a lot of people...hollywood has tapped into this before, think of Night Rider.
Plot-wise there's just...not a whole lot you can do...unless they're going to go all "fast and furious" and "need for speed" on it which is just...no.
But there IS one thing to it though. If MI's sequel, Randall's, is going to happen AFTER Cars...then it may mean Pixar is aiming to get a sizable profit from the venture to put toward the sequel itself. Bigger profit, generally, hints at better production value and effort.
I don't believe a 12 year wait is going to happen again. MU tested the waters of the fandom's survival, and it worked. For now, they may have to move over to other things. It's like when your writing a story and you get stuck...you leave it for a little bit, then you suddenly get inspired on something and continue back on to it.
Some generalizations in a film company could be tested with other films before a specific one. Like a character's arc, or an emotional scene...to see what may perform well later (albiet altered to the situation).
Pixar is (or SHOULD) be aware of their VA's age/health...so think they would take that into consideration.
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Post by pitbulllady on Mar 18, 2014 20:28:02 GMT -5
The Incredibles 2 is something a lot of Pixar fans have been waiting for and personally...I think, yeah, there's material there. Superheroes in general have a large base to work from. Don't think so? Look at all those comics heh...Marvel alone is...oh right...sorry...DISNEY'S Marvel alone has a lot of superheroes (oh jeez, please, no crossovers. Mentions maybe, but no crossovers). It will be interesting to see the kids a little older, maybe even aiming to keep the Incredibles group afloat with mum and dad growing a little slower at things. Violet's new perspective on life was a subtle change in the first Incredibles, so hopefully get to see the results of that. And Dash? Teenage boys, a nightmare. As for Cars 3...I...don't see it. I even played the Cars playset for Infinity and...wasn't impressed much. They had a sale recently and I managed to get the LAST Cars playset they had in stock (yep, even the back room was empty)...so...yeah, apparently Cars is, at the least, Pixar's jump base for cash-in. Dunno why, just something about cars for a lot of people...hollywood has tapped into this before, think of Night Rider. Plot-wise there's just...not a whole lot you can do...unless they're going to go all "fast and furious" and "need for speed" on it which is just...no. But there IS one thing to it though. If MI's sequel, Randall's, is going to happen AFTER Cars...then it may mean Pixar is aiming to get a sizable profit from the venture to put toward the sequel itself. Bigger profit, generally, hints at better production value and effort. I don't believe a 12 year wait is going to happen again. MU tested the waters of the fandom's survival, and it worked. For now, they may have to move over to other things. It's like when your writing a story and you get stuck...you leave it for a little bit, then you suddenly get inspired on something and continue back on to it. Some generalizations in a film company could be tested with other films before a specific one. Like a character's arc, or an emotional scene...to see what may perform well later (albiet altered to the situation). Pixar is (or SHOULD) be aware of their VA's age/health...so think they would take that into consideration. Yeah, I know that Hollywood and America in general have a sort of "car fetish", but that's more for REAL or at least futuristicly-possible automobiles. The first Cars movie tapped into that pretty well, with the whole thing of revolving around the NASCAR culture(which is HUGE, trust me on this one)and the sub-genre of Americana, the inclusion of the Route 66 as the setting. However, the second just became a blatant spoof of the James Bond movies, not even an homage, just an outright spoof, that went off in all these different directions and mostly focused on Mater, and ignored the fact that Lightning McQueen was a NASCAR car, which cannot and are not designed to compete in any other types of races, and things just got sillier and sillier from there. That was literally the only Pixar movie I could not sit through! It is also the only Pixar movie I've ever watched(or tried to) which WAS obviously written JUST for young children, making it the only one that really fit that typical condemnation of Western animated movies and of their fans who have the audacity to discuss them-"it's just a kiddie movie"! It didn't even try to tap into NASCAR culture or car culture in general, so much as spoofing international spy movies, with talking vehicles. Now, Incredibles 2-yeah, I'm really eager to see that one, and I know I'm not the only one! Violet should be in college, Dash would be a teenager, and Jack-Jack would be a toddler, and normal human toddlers are difficult to deal with as it is, so imagine trying to deal with THAT kid when he pitches a tantrum for a toy in Wal-Mart! And while I do not hope, and don't anticipate, a cross-over between The Incredibles and any of Disney's Marvel Universe, I wouldn't mind a crossover between The Incredibles and another of Pixar's movies, namely MI! That might be a means of "killing two birds(no pun intended, Brad)with the same stone", satisfying those of us who want to see that Incredibles sequel, and also want to see confirmation that Randall Boggs is alive and well, and see him redeemed. Pixar has thrown in all these little in-jokes and references to their other movies in every film they've made, so why NOT make that jump to a full-on crossover? Randall has a Super power himself, so he'd be perfect for that. I doubt it will happen, since he's not a Brad Bird character and Pixar has made it clear that The Incredibles is Bird's "baby" more than theirs, but it sure would be a pleasant surprise, would it not? pitbulllady |
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Post by RandallBoggs on Mar 18, 2014 20:45:08 GMT -5
Yes, tap into a sport and generally it's a casher...kind like a "If You Film It, They Will Come" type of thing heh heh.
Although Larry is an ok comedian, not that I haven't seen his stand-ups or his parts in the Blue Collar Comedy tour, some people feel he "appeals to the lowest common denominator"...so the jokes and such are the clever "adult and kid" ones, that are clever and well thought out...
Personally though, I've played Interstate 76, involving tricked out cars with weapons (including a Satellite beam), and it was fun as heck. Cars 2 tapped a little into that...but I understand how it's a little off.
Still, I will think on it in good light, as I saw it first with a very good friend of mine and will always think of that seeing it.
Was unsure of the timing...but yeah...Jack-Jack...the obvious one...the sequel might be centered on him actually, about his multitude of powers possibly being unique. But yeah, also guess the "terrible-twos" will come in as well. And with a toddler with a multitude of super powers...yeah...
I'm...not so for a crossover. It would be a cheapen of things, as if there's "not enough material" in the original to work with, and that's just not true.
I mean I personally HAVE worked in a crossover before, tempting the idea, think a meeting with Edna is on this board somewhere...
But yeah...the originals should be...well...original. If you crossover, then attention on things for Randall will be overshadowed by all the stuff with Wazowski and Sullivan and the Incredibles.
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