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Post by randallsnape7 on Mar 16, 2014 20:20:42 GMT -5
I've been trying to keep track of how many times throughout the course of 'Monsters University' and 'Monsters, Inc.' put together, Randall faces something or someone that leaves him feeling totally humiliated. Here are the incidents I know of:
MONSTERS UNIVERSITY
#1. Soon after Randall brings the plate of cupcakes that reads 'BE MY PAL', and shows them to Mike, a crazy College chase causes the cupcakes to fly out of Randall's hands, and four of them spell the word 'LAME' across his face... then he gets laughed at by everyone.
#2. At the final Scare Games Task, when Sulley's roar causes Randall's body to assume the pink rug pattern with the red hearts, he goes back out meeting his fellow ROR students looking like that. He gets ridiculed and kicked out of the fraternity - plus his ROR sweater gets spoiled.
MONSTERS, INC.
#3. After Randall momentarily beats Sulley at scaring points in the factory, he gets a brief moment of calm satisfaction, only to have it stolen away seconds later from Sulley again.
#4. Mike accidentally causes Randall to fall unconscious when he hits Randall with the yellow snow-cone, though this incident is indeed a brief one.
#5. Boo gets the best of Randall when she starts beating Randall over the head with a wooden bat, causing him to change color and pattern involuntarily, then he squirms helplessly in Sulley's arms until he grabs him by the throat.
#6. Randall begs and pleads for his life as Mike and Sulley illegally banish him through a door, where the Cajun mother in the trailer starts beating Randall with a shovel.
Have I left anything out??? Don't all these scenes just make you feel sorry for Randall? |
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Post by pitbulllady on Mar 16, 2014 22:10:03 GMT -5
You did leave out a few, actually.
In MU:
1. Randall is startled out of his wits in the class on the first day when Sulley bursts into the room with that loud roar; keep in mind that Randall was already on edge, and that surely didn't help calm his nerves any. His self-consciousness didn't exactly get a positive boost from the fact that there were lots of other students present, either.
2. At that ill-fated Rush party, Randall doesn't just wind up with his cupcakes smashed on his face; when the pig comes careening into him, the pig hits the metal tray the cupcakes were on with such force that it is slammed up and hits Randall in the face HARD, stunning him, BEFORE the 3)cupcakes come falling back down to spell out "LAME" on his face.
4. At the football game, Sulley dumps popcorn and soda all over Randall, seated a couple rows below...and doesn't even notice that he did that. RANDALL notices, though, and looks up at him as if to ask what his problem is. 5) Mike continues to ignore Randall, who really needed some emotional support there.
6. In the class on that exam day, when Sulley sets off the Scream canister, it actuallygrazes Randall's chin as it begins its ascent. One millimeter closer and he would have had a broken jaw at the very least, and could have been decapitated at the worst!
7. At the Scare Games sign-ups, Johnny catches Randall talking to Mike and calls him over to where the ROR's are standing, using a thigh-slapping gesture that is the traditional signal used by DOG TRAINERS to call a dog to "heel"! He then orders Randall to "do the thing" for the amusement of the ROR's,8) who laugh and jeer at Randall's turning invisible, with Chet sarcastically saying, "OH, where DID he GO? He just DISAPPEARED!"
9. The Scare Games mishap does not just result in Randall being yelled at by Johnny and being kicked out of ROR; 10) he is laughed at and jeered by THOUSANDS of spectators in the audience, by nearly the entire student body, probably most of the faculty and many guests of the school, like parents and alumni. When you consider that Randall's worst fear is being seen as a "joke", this is the equivalent of dumping thousands of live spiders upon someone with severe arachnophobia while they stand on a stage in front of thousands of other people, in terms of emotional trauma that would cause.
I'm not sure if this would count as "humiliation", but I'm sure it hurt, even if Randall does not acknowledge it, so I threw it in here because it illustrates just how much Mike "valued" Randall's assistance. When they are studying underneath the tree outside, and Randall is calling out examples of various phobias for Mike to name, Mike gets irritated and says something to the effect of "what IS this, kindergarten", complaining that Randall's examples are too easy and not good enough. I mean, maybe Randall didn't have anything better to do than help Mike, but the point is, he was doing that entirely voluntarily, not expecting anything in return, so that was uncalled for on Mike's part to complain.
In MI:
11. Mike hits the first "button", when he reminds Randall of his second-place status(to someone Randall thinks is cheating)and boasts about how he and Sulley are going to break the All-Time Scare Record first.
12.When Randall briefly tops the Scare Board, all the other Assistants and Scarers run over to him to shake his hand, then seconds later they nearly knock him down in their rush to leave him behind and run over to Sulley.
13While Randall is in the bathroom at the sink, putting cold water over his fronds and face to try and cool down, apparently, Fungus comes barging in loudly exclaiming for all the world to hear that the kid in the paper is the one Randall is looking for, nearly giving Randall a heart attack!
14. I really felt sorry for Randall when Waternoose tells him, "Sullivan was TWICE the Scarer YOU will EVER be", right after Randall has finally delivered upon his end of the deal to build that machine for him, even though that statement was NOT true at all, as Randall was only a few points behind Sullivan, and THAT was by working largely on his own(while Fungus stood around for his part running off the mouth), AND while working on the Scream Extractor! Randall can do nothing but growl behind Waternoose's back...so much for HIM being in charge, huh?
Mike's snowball is NOT what caused Randall to lose consciousness, actually. The snowball simply revealed where Randall's face and head were when the snow clung to his features, allowing Sulley to determine where to land his punch. 15) It was Sulley punching him in the jaw that caused Randall to lose consciousness and slump to the floor.
16. As Randall is pursuing Mike, Sulley and Boo onto the Scare Floor, Celia Mae tries to stall him by announcing over the PA that "Randall Boggs has just broken the All-Time Scare Record", which he loudly and vehemently denied(giving lie to the claims that Randall was just a glory hog looking for fame and attention), then causing the other monsters to swarm all over him, stomping on his tail in the process, causing him to yell, "Get OFF of my TAIL!"
17. In the Door Vault, as Randall tries to leap through a door in pursuit of Mike, Sulley and Boo, Mike slams the door on his fronds really hard, yelling, "I hope THAT hurt, Lizard Boy!" 18) On another try, Mike shuts the door so that Randall himself slams into the door, nearly losing consciousness then and sliding off the door to his death.
19. The Cajun woman does not just hit Randall over the top of the head, as if that wouldn't be bad enough(considering that his EYES are on top of his head, especially). She also hits him underneath his jaw with the EDGE of the shovel, probably fracturing his jaw(that was the knock-out), then continues to rain down blow after blow upon his unconscious form, apparently striking his body as well as his head, as he lies face-down on the floor, since he fell face-down.
pitbulllady
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Post by randallsnape7 on Mar 17, 2014 3:14:54 GMT -5
Your tally, please?
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Post by pitbulllady on Mar 17, 2014 13:57:11 GMT -5
OK I numbered my examples, some of which are basically the same as the ones you listed but I just went into a bit more detail, but you can add the example of Boo beating him with the plastic bat, Sulley choking and and telling him, "look's like you're out of a job" as if HE had any say in hiring or firing, and of course, Mike and Sulley making fun of Randall and joking while preparing to throw him into the Human World as he pleads for his life. That's 22 examples that we actually SEE, and I do believe that Dan Scanlon included so many examples in MU in order to establish that this was, and had always been, a pattern that Randall had been dealing with his entire life-either being used by others or ignored by others, being publicly humiliated time and time again. When we first meet him in MU, he openly expresses a fear of seen as "a joke", of being embarrassed in front of others, and I think it's safe to infer that he has that existing fear because this sort of thing has happened to him many times already, before he came to MU, and his "Winds of Change" poster was meant to reflect his hopes that college would change all that, that he'd finally be able to make real friends, become a part of a social group for the first time, be accepted for who he is instead of ridiculed or worse, and gain the respect of others instead of being seen as "a joke". Sadly, MU just turned out to be more of the same. pitbulllady |
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Post by randallsnape7 on Mar 17, 2014 21:08:14 GMT -5
Hmm, let's see... to fans of Christopher Nolan's 'Dark Knight' trilogy, all that humiliation simply means:
#1. MU - Boggs Begins
#2. MI - The Dark Chameleon
#3. M3 - The Dark Chameleon Rises
Uh-huh... I said: 'RISES'. Hint-hint? So... ahem, WHERE is Randall's 'Winds of Change' gonna go? LOL
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Post by pitbulllady on Mar 17, 2014 21:22:22 GMT -5
Hmm, let's see... to fans of Christopher Nolan's 'Dark Knight' trilogy, all that humiliation simply means: #1. MU - Boggs Begins #2. MI - The Dark Chameleon #3. M3 - The Dark Chameleon Rises Uh-huh... I said: 'RISES'. Hint-hint? So... ahem, WHERE is Randall's 'Winds of Change' gonna go? LOL LOL, yeah, but we might want to lose the "Dark" part, and the "Chameleon" part. I can understand why Batman was known as "The Dark Knight", since he wore black, functioned under cover of darkness, and the whole franchise there has that "film noir" thing going on that doesn't jive too well with one of those endings that leave you feeling all warm and fuzzy after one of those classic emotional Pixar tear-jerker scene. And of course, Randall's not a Chameleon, or a lizard, or even a reptile. He's a MONSTER. I want to see him completely defeat his own inner demons, and the last scene of that third movie needs to show a happy, smiling Randall, with REAL friends(as opposed to fake ones who are just using him) who genuinely care about him, a bright ending, not a "dark" one. Randall has paid his dues and then some, and now he deserves happiness at last. pitbulllady |
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Post by randallsnape7 on Mar 18, 2014 12:39:52 GMT -5
LOL! All I was getting at was the very thing we're wanting for Randall is the VERY thing that makes 99% of all trilogy conclusions great. That 'Winds of Change' motto Randall loves has to come out full-force in the third film. In fact, in hindsight (after the film's release), conspiracy theorists would start thinking that the 'Winds of Change' motto was put in deliberately as a clue throughout MU and MI, and that the story of 'Monsters 3' was planned from the very beginning.
Why did I use the 'Dark Knight' trilogy as my analogy? As you probably know, despite all that Bruce Wayne does in 'Batman Begins' and 'The Dark Knight', the majority of Gotham City (aside from you know, his closest friends: Alfred, Lucius, and Jim) still considered him as nothing more than a suspicious vigilante and even a fugitive at times. So, the very first time I saw 'The Dark Knight Rises' trailer, which was an entire year before the film's release (shown before the last Harry Potter movie), I instinctively knew that the 'Rises' part in the title meant that by the end of the film, Bruce Wayne will finally be accepted as a true hero by Gotham City.
You sound like you've apparently seen the film, so you know about that memorial statue and the tombstone they erected in Bruce's honor, thinking he died, but by the end, we see that in actuality, while in the café, Alfred notices that Bruce survived and is having a meal with Selina Kyle (possibly even a date, though this is never explicitly confirmed), which ended nicely.
And yeah, 'Monsters 3' DEFINITELY needs to end with Randall happy and smiling, with Mike and Sulley as his REAL, true friends. Of COURSE, it has to end bright!
Yeah, all the rest was just a rhyming spoof for me. Hope it made you laugh.
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