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Post by randallsnape7 on Mar 14, 2014 22:20:36 GMT -5
I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS!!!
Today, I was browsing through a bookstore, and I suddenly saw a 'Monsters, Inc.' 3D book called 'MIKE: Life through my eye'! Being well... me, I was desperate to look for even a shred of evidence... just to see if Randall appeared in the book, and what the book would say about him. I noticed on pages 20-21, it shows a still image of Randall meeting Mike in the hallway, where he does the clock illustration, and YOU WILL NOT BELIEVE WHAT MIKE SAYS!
I don't remember the whole paragraph, but here's what I remember:
"<Something about the scare floor> <Something about Randall Boggs> Oh, that guy... Well, Randall is a monster that is... difficult. I just keep on trying to be nice to him... ...maybe one day, the nice will come through. There is hope."
I may not have all of this quoted word for word, but I think this is VERY encouraging! I think it's evidence that when the book was published, the people involved knew that neither Disney nor Pixar has any intentions of throwing him away.
I am planning on purchasing the book... when I do, I'll give the exact paragraph - word for word. |
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Post by pitbulllady on Mar 14, 2014 22:48:20 GMT -5
Well, THAT is interesting! I actually found the book online, at the Hallmark store, right after you posted, though I'm sorta surprised that any bookshops still carry any MI stuff, but THEN I checked the copywrite date...it's copywritten to DISNEY/PIXAR 2013! That means that this book was published just last year, same year that MU was released, even though it's set in MI, so either that is a nod to Mike and Randall having been roommates in MU, OR it is indeed a little hint at things to come! By this point, Disney-Pixar was clearly trying to revamp Randall's image, to upgrade it from how he was portrayed back when Disney alone owned the Pixar characters and Pixar had no say in what was said about them. Previous MI books, etc. all more or less painted a picture of Randall as scum-of-the-earth epitome of all evil, although it's interesting that MIKE would act as though he didn't know that Randall ever had been nice, not so surprising that Mike would act as if HE were the one trying to make friends with Randall, since Mike of course views himself as perfect. Mike's comment, "there is hope", though, does remind me of the Lost In Scaradise script, because it is MIKE who first does meet up with and "befriend" Randall(inasmuch as Mike can befriend anyone)and it's the two of them who initially are able to bury the hatchet and work together. Great find, randallsnape7! Try to snag that book as soon as you can so you can share that exact quote with the rest of us! Here is a link to the book for sale if anyone wants to see the cover: www.hallmark.com/products/anytime/interactive-books/life-through-my-eye-1BOK1226_DK/ |
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Post by RandallBoggs on Mar 14, 2014 22:52:44 GMT -5
It seems to...be trying to make Wazowski seem like a better person than he is.
The clock illustration is after the whole "that cheater" bit and all...difficult? Yes...nice to him? Not so much. Hopeful he'll be nice? Kind of...smultzy.
Good as it may sound for Randall...this just seems more like a plug for Wazowski (as the film and subsequent merch was building off HIS story a lot) . A "oh, well Wazowski didn't think Randall was bad, good going Mike!"....then the scene of the banishment comes to mind, ahem.
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Post by conteremo on Mar 14, 2014 23:41:53 GMT -5
It seems to...be trying to make Wazowski seem like a better person than he is. The clock illustration is after the whole "that cheater" bit and all...difficult? Yes...nice to him? Not so much. Hopeful he'll be nice? Kind of...smultzy. Good as it may sound for Randall...this just seems more like a plug for Wazowski (as the film and subsequent merch was building off HIS story a lot) . A "oh, well Wazowski didn't think Randall was bad, good going Mike!"....then the scene of the banishment comes to mind, ahem. And the fact that Mike called Randall a creep at the beginning of MI and asserted that he would get Sulley to teach Randall a lesson one day...and did, culminating in a disturbing scenario in which Randall was illegally banished and potentially murdered and eaten. Don't get me wrong, I'd love for a future movie to have Mike grow and reveal better sides to himself, but if one thinks about his character in MI and MU there is a lot of bad and downright unsettling things about him. I wouldn't exactly say Mike's treatment of Randall in MI is "nice," not any nicer (or meaner) than Randall is to him, anyway. Though, if he did secretly long for Randall's good side again, then that would explain why he sounds so happy to see Randall materialize in that scene where Randall was strangling Sulley...I do think Randall's and Mike's relationship is largely tsundere, actually. Though, I don't think I'd buy the fact that Mike wanted to be friends with Randall again seeing as he didn't give a flip about Randy in MU when Randy was trying to be his friend. Anyway, Pixar/Disney definitely does seem to be revamping Randall's image, and it's more true to the character in MI, in fact. I stated my thoughts on MI Randall in previous threads, so I won't repeat myself on why. Man, if Randall can befriend Mike after the ending of MI, then what a guy! I mean, Randall got struck in the head three times with a shovel, that could cause scars and brain damage, if not, you know, death. That's disregarding the fact that he could've been chopped up by a butcher knife and eaten by humans...Yeah, I do think he will come back if/when there's a sequel, but I'd expect more scars and bitterness. Well, what Mike did to Randall (and what Randall tried to do to Sulley) would make it really interesting! And I want to read this book now. |
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Post by pitbulllady on Mar 15, 2014 0:16:01 GMT -5
I have to take the book's content with a grain of salt, due to that fact that IT, like MU, is told entirely from MIKE'S highly-skewed perspective. Like I said, Mike is the center of his own little universe. He is perfect, in his own eye. That is why it came as such a huge shock to him to learn, in MU, that he WASN'T a great Scarer, that all the others had been right about him all along, but then he figures out how to get around that and STILL manages to take full responsibility for success that really more Sulley's(with some behind-the-scenes tweaking of numbers by Waternoose to really put them on top)than Mike's. Mike never takes responsibility for anything that goes wrong, does he?
But let's consider what happened in MU vs. what happened in MI for a moment, with regards to how Randall was portrayed. Thing is, these are two different movies that showed events from the POV's of two different characters, Mike in MU and Sulley in MI. Mike's opinion/thoughts on Randall don't seem to match up with Sulley's. Mike sees him in MU at best as a helpful roommate and probably from Mike's standpoint, he WAS being friend to Randall simply for not being outwardly hostile towards him! At worst, Mike sees Randall as some another member of ROR, someone to be forgotten. Mike at that point didn't know how to actually BE a friend to anyone. In MI, Sulley sees Randall at best as an annoyance, an immature co-worker with an attitude problem, and at worst, a horrible enemy who tried to possibly harm a child that Sulley had come to think of as his own, a threat to be punished and eliminated. Consider, also, the vast difference in MU Mike-how Mike sees HIMSELF-and MI Mike, a rank coward and a procrastinator, who is not so much a coach and mentor(as he was in MU) as a control-freak boss, which is actually SULLEY'S real perception of Mike!
pitbulllady
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Post by RandallBoggs on Mar 15, 2014 0:18:43 GMT -5
Given my personal thoughts in relation to Mike for the sequel, he does have to grow, that's mostly where it happens (or, begins at least, he'll never "grow up", or he'll lose his funny portions, but at least taper off).
You know, now that I recall, that slip where Wazowski does smile and does say "hey look at that, it's Randall"...after Sullivan back punches him...seems weird now.
Well...at the very least, lets all remember...I keep pointing this out for years, but for the new members, here it is again. Don't forget that Randall DID give Wazowski (and Sullivan) a way out of the situation. He put Boo's door in his station...set up the times...and if the two complied, things would go on without them getting in trouble or in danger (by way of Waternoose). Now before MU, this was a clear show of Randall not being "evil" (who gives the good guys a way out with no strings attached (to them personally)?)...but with MU, it could be said that it is out of Randall's long-gone friendship with him (which is kind of a testament. Be a friend to this reptilian monster and he won't forget it when he's not in a psychotic break).
In MI...Randall's attention, as pointed out, was focused more on Sullivan, at least in the way of violence. Sure, Wazowski slammed a door on his head...but mostly...KNOWING (as he clearly saw) that Wazowski was doing this banishment bit...well...when he goes back, Wazowski won't be safe from anymore, previous friend or not.
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You know, if things go on track, the third one would be Randall's POV. Which, in itself, would be interesting...considering he, by MI, wouldn't consider himself perfect-esque, like Wazowski, or ignorant (unsure how to describe Sullivan's POV)...so interesting to see how that's worked out.
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Post by randallsnape7 on Mar 15, 2014 3:05:56 GMT -5
Yes, I was in a Hallmark bookstore. I even checked online and it directed me to it as a Hallmark Exclusive. I was looking at the book while waiting till it was time to leave the bookstore to go to the theater in a mall to see the movie 'Son of God', which I enjoyed with my Mom.
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Post by randallsnape7 on Mar 21, 2014 23:05:38 GMT -5
I HAVE THE BOOK! Here is the quote... word for word.
Excerpt from "Life Through My Eye - by Mike Wazowski", Pages 20-21:
<Scene depicted: Randall cornering Mike in the factory hallway, shortly before the clock illustration>
MIKE:
"The scare-mergency room
is a blast compared to Randall.
Oh, that guy.
Let's just say Randall is...difficult.
I just keep on being nice to him,
and maybe one day,
the nice will get through.
We can hope."
I think it's a wonderful paragraph... far better than many other things I've seen on Randall Boggs.
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Post by pitbulllady on Mar 21, 2014 23:29:03 GMT -5
I HAVE THE BOOK! Here is the quote... word for word. Excerpt from "Life Through My Eyes - by Mike Wazowski", Pages 20-21: <Scene depicted: Randall cornering Mike in the factory hallway, shortly before the clock illustration> MIKE: "The scare-mergency room is a blast compared to Randall. Oh, that guy. Let's just say Randall is...difficult. I just keep on being nice to him, and maybe one day, the nice will get through. We can hope." I think it's a wonderful paragraph... far better than many other things I've seen on Randall Boggs. Yeah, it is better, since most of the previous written passages on Randall are nothing but negative, slamming him in every way possible. It does sound like Mike, though, to claim that he's trying to be nice to Randall when he never does, because Mike thinks everything he does is perfect. At least he DOES mention that he believes that there IS hope for Randall, and the fact that this is in a MI Disney book published in 2013 really says a lot for how DISNEY now sees Randall, that they're giving him this "make-over", not trying to push that "Evil Incarnate" label anymore. pitbulllady |
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