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Post by pitbulllady on Jul 30, 2013 17:15:11 GMT -5
We've already discussed that since MU came out, probably even MORE people now see Randall in a negative light, because they see Mike Wazowski as perfect, a wonderful role model, their own personal hero, so anyone who'd leave him or do anything against him has to be lower than roach dung, but here's what I'm also seeing and DO NOT GET. AT ALL. That is this thing with people actually thinking that RANDALL was a bad influence on JOHNNY, or was WORSE than Johnny, in terms of how they both treated poor little Mike! There's a fanfic on FF.net and on Tumblr, written from Johnny's POV as a Scarer-about-to-turn Comic as Fear, Co. converts over to Laugh energy, in which Johnny describes Randall as a "slimy salamander" and is not surprised that Randall would be involved in something illegal and unethical and wind up being "banished", suggesting that Johnny always thought negatively of Randall. Another Tumblr user defended that, saying that Johnny would have felt that way because Randall was so easily convinced to play that prank on the OK's, and that would have made Johnny realize that Randall was a dirt-ball. Well, if that was the case, why the hell didn't Johnny kick him out THEN? And who TOLD Randall to do those things? Who devised the prank in the first place, and why wouldn't Johnny consider the rest of the ROR guys to be "slimy" because THEY followed his orders and were willing to do whatever it took to stay in ROR and in HIS good graces? I mean, I like Johnny a lot, and I don't think he's evil, but he's damn sure not blameless or innocent, and even TVTropes.net makes him out to be a nice guy when all is said and done while Randall is practically the Beast with 666 tattooed on his head. It's like most MU fans totally absolve Johnny of any guilt in bullying Mike or the other OK's, and make him out to be a wonderful guy, while putting all the blame solely on Randall! One Tumblr user even went on a rant about how she was sick of everyone trying to say that Johnny had anything to do with Randall turning against Mike and Sulley or saying that Johnny did anything to Mike, that it was RANDALL who made him do those things once he got in ROR!
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Post by RandallBoggs on Jul 30, 2013 18:08:51 GMT -5
First off...as I've said...a majority of humanity are idiots. I knew from the moment it was told what happened to Randall in college that regardless of him being shown, at heart, to be a good person (overly MORE so than EITHER of Wazowski and Sullivan), it wouldn't matter to most people. And like humanity does, it doesn't disappoint to...disappoint. You make ONE mistake in your life, a good nice juicy big one, and no MATTER WHAT you do...there will always be people who hate you for it.
Your taking this from one fanfic? and a few tumblrs? Seriously, this tumblr seems to be more a source of frustration than anything else. ...ONE LINE? One line? REALLY? One line is what these ignoramuses are pegging this on? That's just...pathetic.
WE KNOW THE ACTUALITY. Who the hell cares about what these morons believe? Pixar showed Randall RIGHT for a reason. Heck, there's only two negatives there...the rope pulling and the statement at the end from him. But other than that, zip badness from him. If Pixar wanted to encourage the thought of Randall being some damn hellspawn, there was certainly more they could have done. It's human idiocy and refusal to understand matters and just jump on the "copy&paste" method of going with somebody else's opinion on the fly. Considering the mention of Nathan Fillion, the fanfic writer could be a fan of him/his work/or of Johnny...in which case, the opinion is bias.
But feel free to vent...it gets tiring seeing people showing how society is reflecting on things.
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Post by pitbulllady on Jul 30, 2013 19:24:26 GMT -5
First off...as I've said...a majority of humanity are idiots. I knew from the moment it was told what happened to Randall in college that regardless of him being shown, at heart, to be a good person (overly MORE so than EITHER of Wazowski and Sullivan), it wouldn't matter to most people. And like humanity does, it doesn't disappoint to...disappoint. You make ONE mistake in your life, a good nice juicy big one, and no MATTER WHAT you do...there will always be people who hate you for it. Your taking this from one fanfic? and a few tumblrs? Seriously, this tumblr seems to be more a source of frustration than anything else. ...ONE LINE? One line? REALLY? One line is what these ignoramuses are pegging this on? That's just...pathetic. WE KNOW THE ACTUALITY. Who the hell cares about what these morons believe? Pixar showed Randall RIGHT for a reason. Heck, there's only two negatives there...the rope pulling and the statement at the end from him. But other than that, zip badness from him. If Pixar wanted to encourage the thought of Randall being some damn hellspawn, there was certainly more they could have done. It's human idiocy and refusal to understand matters and just jump on the "copy&paste" method of going with somebody else's opinion on the fly. Considering the mention of Nathan Fillion, the fanfic writer could be a fan of him/his work/or of Johnny...in which case, the opinion is bias. But feel free to vent...it gets tiring seeing people showing how society is reflecting on things. Nathan Fillion has described Johnny Worthington as "a jerk" and "smarmy", and even went so far as to demonstrate to an interviewer the difference between "charming" and "smarmy" and explain how Johnny's "charm" was utterly false, how he used that pretense of being charming and friendly to sucker people in. Now he DID explain WHY Johnny was like that, how it boiled down to him honestly NOT knowing any better due to the role model he had, his father, and the environment in which he was raised and the pressure he was under to succeed at all costs, but he was under no pretense that college-age Johnny was a nice guy. I definitely can't blame Mr. Fillion for putting that notion into the head of any fans that Johnny thought of Randall as a bad seed, let alone doing so BECAUSE Randall followed JOHNNY'S orders or wanted to be in JOHNNY'S fraternity! pitbulllady
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Post by RandallBoggs on Jul 30, 2013 19:31:26 GMT -5
I'm not saying Fillion put forth the notion. I'm saying that fans who just like him, or his portrayal of Johnny, will do anything to make him seem "good" by bashing everybody else. Some unenlightened Randall fans may do this themselves, but to be honest I don't see any credibility in this sort of thing.
This is a rather pathetic opinion. To think Randall had ANY control in the RORs is sheer stupidity.
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Post by pitbulllady on Jul 30, 2013 23:18:16 GMT -5
Wait a min. BACK THE fook UP! People are seriously blaming Randall forJohnny's actions?! O.o What fookery is this? 0_e God...I just....I can't. -_- To think that Randall had any control over ROR is just.... God! Did these people even SEE the damn movie? >_< In a nutshell, yes, some of them are. One has written a fanfic which is set after the discovery that Laugh Energy is stronger than Scream, and Johnny's employer, Fear Co, is converting over. He is having to sit in a meeting with the other Scarers and is having a conversation with a co-worker about recent events at MI, that led up to this, and Johnny basically tells his co-worker that he was "shocked" about Waternoose's involvement because Waternoose was such a nice old guy, but he wasn't surprised at all that the..and I QUOTE..."slimy salamander Boggs" did something that awful because Johnny had seen how evil he was when he knew him at Monsters University! When I questioned the author, SEVERAL other Tumblr users weighed in that Randall WAS "slimy" because HE WANTED TO BE IN ROR TO SHOW UP MIKE AND HE OBEYED JOHNNY'S ORDERS IN PRANKING THE OK'S WITHOUT QUESTION and THIS would have been enough to let Johnny realize how horrible a person Randall really was, which is why Johnny kicked him out of ROR! Seriously, I am NOT making this excrement up! According to these folks, Johnny really had nothing to do with the prank on the OK's, or if he DID, the fact that Randall went along with it so eagerly was proof that Randall was willing to do anything, no matter how evil, to hurt Mike and Sulley and elevate his own social status, and that even the ROR guys found him to be too nasty for their tastes as a result...never mind that ALL of them eagerly went along with that prank and had roles to play. One even said that Johnny was "scared" by how willing Randall was to do something bad and that's why he kicked him out. Yeah, Johnny "Hellhound On My Trail" Worthington III...scared of little dorky Randy Boggs, and not being surprised that Randall would wind up involved in some "evil" plot. And Yeah, JOHNNY being totally innocent throughout, having nothing to do with how Randall turned out. pitbulllady
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Post by pitbulllady on Jul 31, 2013 0:04:51 GMT -5
You're right; pretty much everyone on Tumblr loves Mike and Sulley to pieces, and oddly enough, there's very, very little Johnny-bashing. Most of them love him, too. I admit I like him a lot, and I can understand WHY he acted the way he did, but a REASON is not the same as an EXCUSE. Johnny was not a nice guy for the most part in college, and he DEFINITELY wasn't afraid of anyone! You saw how "Big Red" O'Growlahan and that dude from Omega Howl, just shut up and cleared out when Johnny came strolling up, even though both of them were bigger than him. They DID kinda give him a couple of "Eff You" looks behind his back, which shows that they didn't defer to him because they LIKED the guy or respected him so much, but probably because they were SCARED of him and knew there'd be hell to pay if they crossed him...and yet someone actually believed that JOHNNY was scared of Randall and worried that Randall would do something "evil" somewhere down the line.
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Post by mintygreen on Aug 3, 2013 4:49:15 GMT -5
I think a lot of that is because most people don't really read between the lines and notice the more subliminal things in a movie. They notice the stuff that is right in their faces and don't think outside the box about it. Especially if they don't really care about Randall and therefore are even LESS likely to notice subliminal things relating to his character. Especially if some of these people already had a preconceived notion that Randall "is bad" so they would have been more likely to see things he did in MU as most likely "bad" instead of "good" or something else.
They're free to have their opinion of course but yeah, it's not how I see things.
Also it does seem like maybe Johnny is more appealing to more people than Randall is....so people just aren't blaming him as much. Although, I do think Johnny has his own issues. One of my friends is friends with the son of a really well known family in our city and it does feel like those people are expected to live up to certain expectations and they're always in the spotlight and if they fail at something it will be noticed more by people than if someone else fails at something. And that does suck.
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Post by pitbulllady on Aug 3, 2013 13:02:58 GMT -5
I think a lot of that is because most people don't really read between the lines and notice the more subliminal things in a movie. They notice the stuff that is right in their faces and don't think outside the box about it. Especially if they don't really care about Randall and therefore are even LESS likely to notice subliminal things relating to his character. Especially if some of these people already had a preconceived notion that Randall "is bad" so they would have been more likely to see things he did in MU as most likely "bad" instead of "good" or something else. They're free to have their opinion of course but yeah, it's not how I see things. Also it does seem like maybe Johnny is more appealing to more people than Randall is....so people just aren't blaming him as much. Although, I do think Johnny has his own issues. One of my friends is friends with the son of a really well known family in our city and it does feel like those people are expected to live up to certain expectations and they're always in the spotlight and if they fail at something it will be noticed more by people than if someone else fails at something. And that does suck. Johnny DEFINITELY has issues, to put it mildly, and money or no money, I would not want to be in his place for exactly the reason you described. Johnny honestly does NOT know any better because he's never had a real role model to show him any differently, and he basically treats others just as his own father no doubt treats him. If they succeed and their success helps HIM directly hold up those lofty standards that have been imposed on him, he treats them well, but if they FAIL, and especially if in doing so make HIM look bad...well, we saw how he treated Randall in that instance, didn't we? It does really, really bother me, as a teacher especially, that most younger people CAN'T, as you said, "read between the lines" and can only see what is very, very obvious, whether it's watching a movie or tv series or reading something. They completely miss out on deeper concepts like themes and internal struggles that characters are going through. It's sad and it's scary, honestly, that people are losing the ability, for the most part, to utilize those higher-level thinking/processing skills. The fact that most people would assume that Johnny found Randall to be a "slimy" individual based on the fact that Randall actually follows JOHNNY'S orders, though, takes the lack of higher-order thinking skills to a whole new low. pitbulllady
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Post by RandallBoggs on Aug 3, 2013 18:12:29 GMT -5
It's not scary...or sad. It's "evolution" on the part of humanity. Humans become so full of themselves and believe that things are all on the "Layer 1" that they refuse to dig any deeper. They become less inclined to look, more lazy, more unaccustomed to feeling anything other than their own satisfaction. Sounds like DEVOLUTION doesn't?
I've said before, if anybody listens...these people are entitled to their own opinion...even if they're wrong. If your efforts are to get them to understand things, for the most part, it's rarely becoming something that will happen. Mentioning something such as this proves that their decision is, indeed, biased. They can have it, they're just completely wrong.
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Post by pitbulllady on Aug 3, 2013 19:18:46 GMT -5
It's not scary...or sad. It's "evolution" on the part of humanity. Humans become so full of themselves and believe that things are all on the "Layer 1" that they refuse to dig any deeper. They become less inclined to look, more lazy, more unaccustomed to feeling anything other than their own satisfaction. Sounds like DEVOLUTION doesn't? I've said before, if anybody listens...these people are entitled to their own opinion...even if they're wrong. If your efforts are to get them to understand things, for the most part, it's rarely becoming something that will happen. Mentioning something such as this proves that their decision is, indeed, biased. They can have it, they're just completely wrong. But that IS scary! That's the future of our species here, that has lost the ability to reason logically and analyze and evaluate information in a rational way. There's a difference in having an opinion and getting facts wrong. If I say, "I hate pepperoni pizza", that's my opinion. If I say, "I hate pepperoni pizza because pepperoni pizza is made with dog poo", then I've got the facts wrong. It makes no logical or rational sense for someone to actually claim that Johnny was suspicious of Randall and thought of Randall as a bad person BECAUSE Randall OBEYED Johnny's orders to do things which were bad when JOHNNY was the one who came up with those plans in the first place. Now, I can see that IF Randall had been the one who was calling the shots, giving orders, instead of the other way around, but clearly that was NOT the case. And what about all the other members of ROR, all of whom played just as big a role as Randall in pulling off that prank on the OK's, OR the other fraternities and sororities, all of which were in on the prank, too, and all of which found it funny to say the least. It was the PNK's who actually invited the OK's to that party in the first place, and everyone was in on it, even if they didn't know specifically what Johnny was up to, but it all boils down to HIM being the mastermind behind the whole thing, so it is completely illogical that he, of all monsters, would find anyone "slimy" and untrustworthy because they went along with HIM. pitbulllady
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Post by RandallBoggs on Aug 3, 2013 19:32:47 GMT -5
*chuckles* It's inevitable. *shrugs* You can't convince the ignorant and the refusal. It's a wasted effort...valiant, perhaps, but wasted. Getting yourself stressed out of this complete disregard is only hurting you.
People who claim this are, as said, biased. Their "facts", if they dare call them that, and statements are voided.
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Post by TheOnePistol on Aug 4, 2013 18:26:27 GMT -5
Even though Randall is getting just as much hate as he is love if not a little more, you can't deny the fact that he is still in fact getting ALLOT of attention, which is a good thing.
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Post by CrazyDiamond on Aug 4, 2013 18:52:24 GMT -5
I have already posted this on the other forum, but it matches the subject so well that I'll post it here as well:
As long as MU remains a novelty, the number of people on both sides will remain increased. Then I think we'll witness the same thing that happened when MI came out: those hordes of Mike and Sulley fans that will quickly fade away, while Randall fans will remain the franchise's most loyal fans.
The biggest catch with Monsters University - one that could prove positive for Randall in the future - is that sooner or later, the vast majority of people starting/doing/finishing/dropping-out of college now will later find themselves in Randall's position rather than in Mike's or Sulley's. I once read a great quote that the difference between childhood and adulthood is that as a kid you fancy fancy Jerry, while as an adult you hate him and feel sorry for Tom, and I think this principle will apply here as well.
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Post by pitbulllady on Aug 4, 2013 19:20:31 GMT -5
Even though Randall is getting just as much hate as he is love if not a little more, you can't deny the fact that he is still in fact getting ALLOT of attention, which is a good thing. I honestly don't know if it's a good thing or not, OnePistol. To use an analogy of the squeaky wheel, it gets lots of attention, too...but that might result in it being removed, discarded and replaced entirely rather than just oiled! How would Pixar interpret this? Who do THEY listen to-the many people who now hate Randall because of how they perceive him to have treated St. Mike, many of whom either had no real opinion of him prior to MU or actually thought he was "cool" in MI, but who know just think he's an awful "douche-bag"? Or those who believe that Randall is innately good and has the ability to be good again? By making Mike out to be such an amazingly wonderful, can-do-no-wrong character(and most fans forget that MU is told through MIKE'S perspective), anyone who wrongs HIM is going to be seen as Evil Incarnate...unless it's Johnny. While I really do LIKE Johnny, he IS the primary antagonist, and he DOES treat both Mike AND Randall like garbage, but for some reason, most fans can't look past the fact that Johnny is suave and handsome(which he IS). Now, if ANY character in this movie deserves the "Draco In Leather Pants" trope, it's JOHNNY! While he's not EVIL, he's definitely a threat to anyone who crosses him, and Johnny definitely does NOT like Mike at all...but yet, most fans see Johnny as being the perfect gentleman who is completely blameless and did nothing wrong, while RANDALL is the Evil One who wanted to hurt not only poor sweet Mikey, but Johnny as well! If Pixar were to actually put Randall in a sequel, how would they portray him, which version of Randall would they go with? If it's "slimy salamander/douche-bag/jerk/evil Randall, I'd just as soon that sequel never see the light of day. We know that Pixar probably DOES keep their collective ears out as to how fans react to their movies and characters, otherwise I don't think that they'd have included Randall at all in MU, but MU also seems to have made him more enemies than supporters, at least in Western countries. Now, in Asia, and Japan especially, Randall seems to have a lot more sympathy, but again, as we've discussed, they have a different mindset when it comes to "good" vs. "evil". I have already posted this on the other forum, but it matches the subject so well that I'll post it here as well: As long as MU remains a novelty, the number of people on both sides will remain increased. Then I think we'll witness the same thing that happened when MI came out: those hordes of Mike and Sulley fans that will quickly fade away, while Randall fans will remain the franchise's most loyal fans. The biggest catch with Monsters University - one that could prove positive for Randall in the future - is that sooner or later, the vast majority of people starting/doing/finishing/dropping-out of college now will later find themselves in Randall's position rather than in Mike's or Sulley's. I once read a great quote that the difference between childhood and adulthood is that as a kid you fancy fancy Jerry, while as an adult you hate him and feel sorry for Tom, and I think this principle will apply here as well. I hope that you're right, CD. I never saw MI as a child myself, but from the perspective of an adult with several years, many unpleasant, in the workforce, and my undergraduate college years long past. I saw Randall from the perspective of an adult who'd had to deal with cronyism and nepotism, corrupt bosses and workplace tensions myself, something most of the younger fans now on Tumblr have never had to deal with. I have to remind myself that most of the people on Tumblr are children, who have not even gone to college yet. They don't know what college life is even like, but the scariest thing is that most of them-and there have been several studies that support my fears-see themselves as perfect and blameless, so anyone who is not just like them must be horrible. Most of them identify with Mike, and can't fathom that Mike wouldn't WANT a friend or that he'd put pursuit of his dream over friendship, so to them, when Randall wound up with ROR, he "betrayed" Mike's friendship, a friendship that never existed. I can GET that part, though, can understand how many young people would feel that way. What I CAN'T understand is the growing sentiment that Johnny was such a nice, sweet, caring, wonderful guy who would have thought of Randall as sleazy and untrustworthy and even dangerous...BECAUSE Randall followed JOHNNY'S ORDERS! It's pretty much become "fanon" now, that Johnny was scared of Randall and didn't trust him, which is why he kicked him out of ROR, rather than something petty like, oh, Randall losing his Scare Competition to Sulley and being the laughingstock of the entire campus, thus making ROR in general look bad because he represented them. It's really the same mentality that if someone sics their dog on another person, it's the DOG that's evil and should be punished or even destroyed for obeying a command, NOT the person who trained the dog and then commanded it to bite, and then going one step further by trying to claim that the dog's owner was afraid of his own dog! I really can't understand such a widespread adoration of Johnny in spite of his looks, given how he treats others, and you very rarely see anything negative about him at all on Tumblr. If someone DOES say something really bad about him, they quickly get shot down. Now, Johnny is my favorite character after Randall in MU, but he does have a LOT of room for improvement, and it would take a lot more work, starting with what we see in MU, to accomplish that with him than with Randall due to his Alpha nature and sense of entitlement. Unless you're someone he sees as either an equal in social/economic status or a superior, even, you wouldn't get too far with college-age Johnny if you tried to clue him in as to how wrong his treatment of others is. I'm afraid it will take a very nasty run-in with that female dog, Karma, to take Mr. Worthington down a notch and teach him some humility, while with college-age Randall, just having a good and loyal friend who was willing to listen and who empathized with his fears and tried to build up his self-confidence, rather than brushing them off and telling him, "everything will be fine", would have made all the difference in the world. pitbulllady
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Post by TheOnePistol on Aug 5, 2013 5:33:19 GMT -5
Even though Randall is getting just as much hate as he is love if not a little more, you can't deny the fact that he is still in fact getting ALLOT of attention, which is a good thing. I honestly don't know if it's a good thing or not, OnePistol. To use an analogy of the squeaky wheel, it gets lots of attention, too...but that might result in it being removed, discarded and replaced entirely rather than just oiled! How would Pixar interpret this? Who do THEY listen to-the many people who now hate Randall because of how they perceive him to have treated St. Mike, many of whom either had no real opinion of him prior to MU or actually thought he was "cool" in MI, but who know just think he's an awful "douche-bag"? Or those who believe that Randall is innately good and has the ability to be good again? By making Mike out to be such an amazingly wonderful, can-do-no-wrong character(and most fans forget that MU is told through MIKE'S perspective), anyone who wrongs HIM is going to be seen as Evil Incarnate...unless it's Johnny. While I really do LIKE Johnny, he IS the primary antagonist, and he DOES treat both Mike AND Randall like garbage, but for some reason, most fans can't look past the fact that Johnny is suave and handsome(which he IS). Now, if ANY character in this movie deserves the "Draco In Leather Pants" trope, it's JOHNNY! While he's not EVIL, he's definitely a threat to anyone who crosses him, and Johnny definitely does NOT like Mike at all...but yet, most fans see Johnny as being the perfect gentleman who is completely blameless and did nothing wrong, while RANDALL is the Evil One who wanted to hurt not only poor sweet Mikey, but Johnny as well! If Pixar were to actually put Randall in a sequel, how would they portray him, which version of Randall would they go with? If it's "slimy salamander/douche-bag/jerk/evil Randall, I'd just as soon that sequel never see the light of day. We know that Pixar probably DOES keep their collective ears out as to how fans react to their movies and characters, otherwise I don't think that they'd have included Randall at all in MU, but MU also seems to have made him more enemies than supporters, at least in Western countries. Now, in Asia, and Japan especially, Randall seems to have a lot more sympathy, but again, as we've discussed, they have a different mindset when it comes to "good" vs. "evil". I have already posted this on the other forum, but it matches the subject so well that I'll post it here as well: As long as MU remains a novelty, the number of people on both sides will remain increased. Then I think we'll witness the same thing that happened when MI came out: those hordes of Mike and Sulley fans that will quickly fade away, while Randall fans will remain the franchise's most loyal fans. The biggest catch with Monsters University - one that could prove positive for Randall in the future - is that sooner or later, the vast majority of people starting/doing/finishing/dropping-out of college now will later find themselves in Randall's position rather than in Mike's or Sulley's. I once read a great quote that the difference between childhood and adulthood is that as a kid you fancy fancy Jerry, while as an adult you hate him and feel sorry for Tom, and I think this principle will apply here as well. I hope that you're right, CD. I never saw MI as a child myself, but from the perspective of an adult with several years, many unpleasant, in the workforce, and my undergraduate college years long past. I saw Randall from the perspective of an adult who'd had to deal with cronyism and nepotism, corrupt bosses and workplace tensions myself, something most of the younger fans now on Tumblr have never had to deal with. I have to remind myself that most of the people on Tumblr are children, who have not even gone to college yet. They don't know what college life is even like, but the scariest thing is that most of them-and there have been several studies that support my fears-see themselves as perfect and blameless, so anyone who is not just like them must be horrible. Most of them identify with Mike, and can't fathom that Mike wouldn't WANT a friend or that he'd put pursuit of his dream over friendship, so to them, when Randall wound up with ROR, he "betrayed" Mike's friendship, a friendship that never existed. I can GET that part, though, can understand how many young people would feel that way. What I CAN'T understand is the growing sentiment that Johnny was such a nice, sweet, caring, wonderful guy who would have thought of Randall as sleazy and untrustworthy and even dangerous...BECAUSE Randall followed JOHNNY'S ORDERS! It's pretty much become "fanon" now, that Johnny was scared of Randall and didn't trust him, which is why he kicked him out of ROR, rather than something petty like, oh, Randall losing his Scare Competition to Sulley and being the laughingstock of the entire campus, thus making ROR in general look bad because he represented them. It's really the same mentality that if someone sics their dog on another person, it's the DOG that's evil and should be punished or even destroyed for obeying a command, NOT the person who trained the dog and then commanded it to bite, and then going one step further by trying to claim that the dog's owner was afraid of his own dog! I really can't understand such a widespread adoration of Johnny in spite of his looks, given how he treats others, and you very rarely see anything negative about him at all on Tumblr. If someone DOES say something really bad about him, they quickly get shot down. Now, Johnny is my favorite character after Randall in MU, but he does have a LOT of room for improvement, and it would take a lot more work, starting with what we see in MU, to accomplish that with him than with Randall due to his Alpha nature and sense of entitlement. Unless you're someone he sees as either an equal in social/economic status or a superior, even, you wouldn't get too far with college-age Johnny if you tried to clue him in as to how wrong his treatment of others is. I'm afraid it will take a very nasty run-in with that female dog, Karma, to take Mr. Worthington down a notch and teach him some humility, while with college-age Randall, just having a good and loyal friend who was willing to listen and who empathized with his fears and tried to build up his self-confidence, rather than brushing them off and telling him, "everything will be fine", would have made all the difference in the world. pitbulllady Well my thinking is when it comes down to it, the haters can hate all they want, it was Pixar who confirmed that Randall has a good side to him and that he is not pure evil, he has good in him even though the haters say he doesn't. If Pixar were on the side of "He was always a jerk and will always be a jerk" then why would they have done that? The way I see it, all these arguments about Randall are just making him more popular and Pixar will eventually take notice if they haven't already and thats a good thing because they had already decided what they wanted to do for Randall when they made him that nerdy/friendly kid we saw in MU and all this attention he is getting will just make them want to continue it.
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