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Post by RandallBoggs on Jul 23, 2013 18:10:53 GMT -5
If your talking sequel-wise...
Given Randall's condition, physically and mentally, he's up to trusting no-one and wouldn't have an interest in any kind of relationship, be it friend or romantic interest. Personally, from my own theories, there's already a love thing going on in the sequel, and having one for Randall would take the focus off his own development. Sure, a woman to help straighten him out and all but...the focus for him shouldn't be a love interest, his thing is his own development and his relationship with Sullivan and Wazowski.
Of course, granted...if there ARE further things AFTER the sequel...yeah, possible.
Though for now people settle on Vane and Danielle for your Randall girlfriend woes.
Personally, I've seen relationships start and fail a lot and believe me...Randall doesn't need the added stress of adding "romantic failure" to his list of set-backs.
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Post by pitbulllady on Jul 23, 2013 18:26:11 GMT -5
Hey guys. I'm curious. XD I know a lot of people would like to see Randall get redeemed or maybe get his own movie. But how would you guys feel if they gave him an actual girlfriend? XD I definitely wouldn't mind it. Maybe a girlfriend could loosen Randy up a bit. <3 However, I would also like for his love interest to be interesting and not a completely flat character with no other purpose than romance. Like I said, I would totally go for it, as long as she interesting. Though I feel as if a LOT of Randall fangirls would feel cheated! XD I would love to see Randall in a stable, genuinely loving relationship, honestly, and I'm one of the biggest Randall fangirls anywhere! I do think, though, that such a relationship will have to be built upon a friendship first, with the other aspects falling into place later. It's going to take time for anyone to break through Randall's protective emotional wall he's built up over the years and it will not be easy for anyone to prove to him that they aren't just using him and trying to hurt him, that they won't reject him, as everyone else has. It's going to take a very special individual, with an enormous amount of patience and perseverance, to be willing to put up with Randall's OCD-ness and his Avoidant Personality Disorder symptoms, someone who understands WHY he acts the way he does, in ways that will often seem flat-out nasty and anti-social at times. I really would not mind if Pixar took a big risk and had a HUMAN girlfriend for Randall, seriously, helping him not only to finally learn to love himself, but to accept humans as equals and further bridge that gap between Mans and Mons, helping to bring the two back together after all those thousands of years of separation, and this could be something that both Sulley and Randall understand and have in common, too, which could help them at least come to some sort of reconciliation and mutual acceptance. pitbulllady |
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Post by RandallBoggs on Jul 23, 2013 18:30:43 GMT -5
Finding a genuine person with an understanding nature is very difficult in this day and age heh...
Man and Mon will near-never have that bridge made unfortunately. Nice to think that Randall could help change it but...no, not happening.
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Post by mintygreen on Jul 25, 2013 21:33:54 GMT -5
I'd be happy for him. I mean, he's a fictional character. It's not like I could actually date him anyway. LOL.
It's the same reason why I think it's silly when fangirls(and some fanboys) fight over a character....since the character is not even real and none of us have anymore right to him than anyone else so that's why it's best to keep the peace and just say something like "We can all be his harem.". I wouldn't want to share a REAL guy but he's a character so there is no point in getting jealous and all of those things.
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Post by CrazyDiamond on Sept 26, 2013 7:31:40 GMT -5
To answer the general question: as long as Randall would be happy, I wouldn't mind Pixar giving him a love interest  |
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Post by pitbulllady on Sept 26, 2013 11:10:28 GMT -5
I'd love to see Randall with a love interest, but it really needs to be someone with a lot of patience and love for HIM, who can prove that she isn't going to simply use and then reject him. She's gonna have to be able to show him that she's in it for the long haul, lol. A lot of Randall's issues stem from him having been rejected in the past, pushed aside by others once his usefulness to them was done or because they just had better things to do, and he's going to have a difficult time accepting that someone genuinely cares about him now, let alone that someone finds him attractive, and that it's NOT because he's "in with the cool kids", either. Once that defensive wall is down, though, I don't think that this partner would ever find a more loyal, loving and affectionate guy. The Randall x Violet Parr pairing works for me because they both can really relate to each other, in terms of having been social outcasts. If we accept that "The Incredibles" took place in 2003 in their "universe", when Violet was 14, that would make her 24 now, and while she'd still be much younger than Randall, I don't have a problem with that because she'd still be an adult, capable of her own decisions.
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Post by seafoamonster on Jan 7, 2014 13:54:47 GMT -5
If he a a girlfriend during MU, and the relationship ended before or during MI, what would be the most plausible reason for the breakup?
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Post by pitbulllady on Jan 7, 2014 18:07:21 GMT -5
If he a a girlfriend during MU, and the relationship ended before or during MI, what would be the most plausible reason for the breakup? There is actually a deleted storyboard scene on the MI DVD which showed that Randall DID have a girlfriend, and she actually did look a bit like Ms. Stephanie Dalmar, the Homecoming Queen at MU during his freshman year of whom he expressed having a crush in the "Monsters University Fear Book". In the deleted scene, Randall's girlfriend/wife(it is not clear if they're married or not) has shown up at the factory and is nagging him incessantly, saying things like, "You never take me out anymore" and "I'm BORED", while he attempts to placate her by giving her a tour of the factory on a golf cart thingie, but says nothing in his own defense. I have to assume that one way or the other, whether it was due to the Scream Extractor or just the pressures of his job(the Scream Extractor was a relatively late plot twist in the various scripts, since Randall was NOT originally intended to be the "bad guy"), that he has been neglecting to pay her enough attention and that their relationship has gone cold as a result of him not being able to spend as much time with her as she wants. IF that was due to Randall's involvement with the Scream Extractor, think of how much time that would require him working late at the factory, well beyond his normal work hours, on weekends and vacation time, even...and he CANNOT tell her anything! When he WAS home, he'd be exhausted and probably cranky, in no mood for you know, more "intimate" stuff, and I know if *I* was in HER spot, and my man was staying away late into the night, disappearing for some weekends and even during holidays when he was supposed to be with ME, and he was always tired and distant when he was home, and wouldn't tell me what was going on, my logical conclusion would be that he had someone else, that he was having an affair! I did get the impression, though, from that storyboarded interchange, that Randall's girlfriend was a bit of a "gold digga", someone who was only interested in him because of his status as a Scarer, like a groupie, more or less. In other words, she was probably using him just like Waternoose was doing, just like Mike and the ROR's had done earlier, rather than genuinely being in love with HIM as a person. pitbulllady |
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Post by seafoamonster on Jan 8, 2014 9:59:42 GMT -5
Yeah...I've seen that...she's pretty annoying!
But that was back when he was Ned, right?
If he lost a true, loving relationship, in what ways would that add to his misery?
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Post by pitbulllady on Jan 8, 2014 15:06:09 GMT -5
Yeah...I've seen that...she's pretty annoying! But that was back when he was Ned, right? If he lost a true, loving relationship, in what ways would that add to his misery? Well, I'm not sure that she would have been a "true, loving" partner, but in any case, even by the time Randall first enters college at MU, he has some strong abandonment/rejection issues. We can only speculate what Randall's home life and school life prior to MU were like, based on his behaviors, but I don't think that he had a normal, stable childhood at all, and I can say that with 30 years of teaching under my belt, with first-hand experiences with kids who had every manner of issues themselves. I have to wonder if Randall has EVER really had a true, loving relationship of any kind, honestly. He's obviously wanting and needing that, and I don't just mean a romantic/sexual relationship, either, but even a genuine FRIEND. I don't think that he came from an abusive family, as such, but I do have to wonder how much the person who raised him really loved him, and I don't think that individual was a biological parent, but probably an elderly female relative, and again, I'm basing this on my experience with countless kids raised in similar situations. The person caring for them treated them well and provided for their needs, but something was still lacking there, and it showed in the kids' behaviors, which mirrored Randall's-insecurity, desperate to make friends almost to the point of being obnoxious and "trying TOO hard" as Dan Scanlon himself states of Randall's eagerness to fit in, internalizing every little failure as being their fault until they just can't internalize anymore, then lashing out and blaming someone else. By the time Randall entered MU, he already had a deep-rooted inferiority complex and a fear of being abandoned and rejected, so any additional rejections would have simply made all that worse, and indeed, that's exactly what we see. THAT is how Avoidant Personality Disorder is instigated, by either repeated painful put-downs and rejections when attempting to forge relationships, or by some incident(s) of severe public humiliation, or a combination of both, and again, we actually SEE Randall experience those things in MU. Any further loss of any relationship with someone he likes or admires or loves, even, is going to simply make that situation worse, adding "another brick in the wall", as Pink Floyd put it. Randall's snarky, irritable disposition in MI is due in part to the tremendous pressure he was under to build the Scream Extractor and all the hassle that went along with that, plus his frustration that a known cheater was being given all this preferential treatment, but it was also due in part to his APD. It was his emotional shield against any future rejections; no one could reject him if he rejected THEM first. pitbulllady |
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Post by mintygreen on Feb 27, 2014 2:16:07 GMT -5
I'd love to see Randall with a love interest, but it really needs to be someone with a lot of patience and love for HIM, who can prove that she isn't going to simply use and then reject him. She's gonna have to be able to show him that she's in it for the long haul, lol. A lot of Randall's issues stem from him having been rejected in the past, pushed aside by others once his usefulness to them was done or because they just had better things to do, and he's going to have a difficult time accepting that someone genuinely cares about him now, let alone that someone finds him attractive, and that it's NOT because he's "in with the cool kids", either. Once that defensive wall is down, though, I don't think that this partner would ever find a more loyal, loving and affectionate guy. The Randall x Violet Parr pairing works for me because they both can really relate to each other, in terms of having been social outcasts. If we accept that "The Incredibles" took place in 2003 in their "universe", when Violet was 14, that would make her 24 now, and while she'd still be much younger than Randall, I don't have a problem with that because she'd still be an adult, capable of her own decisions. pitbulllady I agree with your assessment of what he most likely needs in a relationship. |
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Post by randallsnape7 on Feb 27, 2014 20:41:55 GMT -5
I think for now, this is a moot topic. Randall is going to have to first have to develop a solid, trusting friendship with Mike and Sulley before he could even CONSIDER meeting and befriending a female chameleon. I wouldn't look for anything of that sort until a 'Monsters 4' film or beyond. It would arguably take ALL of 'Monsters 3' just to redeem Randall, and that's the most important thing of all.
As a group of Randall Boggs fans, since we're still not even sure how Randall's redemption story will play out, we need to make 'Monsters 3' our sole priority. Until the film gets made and released, nothing else matters.
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Post by pitbulllady on Feb 27, 2014 23:21:17 GMT -5
I think for now, this is a moot topic. Randall is going to have to first have to develop a solid, trusting friendship with Mike and Sulley before he could even CONSIDER meeting and befriending a female chameleon. I wouldn't look for anything of that sort until a 'Monsters 4' film or beyond. It would arguably take ALL of 'Monsters 3' just to redeem Randall, and that's the most important thing of all. As a group of Randall Boggs fans, since we're still not even sure how Randall's redemption story will play out, we need to make 'Monsters 3' our sole priority. Until the film gets made and released, nothing else matters. This is true. Randall needs time to heal, physically and emotionally, before undertaking something as serious as a romantic relationship. It is a sad thing that too many people NOW, in Real Life, do not take that seriously enough. We need for Randall to first redeem himself and be able to find that healing, to be able to experience true FRIENDSHIP, no strings attached, before pursuing any other type of relationship. pitbulllady |
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Post by mintygreen on Feb 28, 2014 4:37:40 GMT -5
I agree, he needs to make true friends before stepping to a higher level of relationship(romantic).
I just think a lot of us fans like to discuss romantic possibilities for Randall since a lot of us find him attractive and like the idea of seeing him romantically.
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