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Post by lizardgirl on Jul 15, 2013 15:44:44 GMT -5
That's the main thing I got from MU concerning Randall: they just didn't know what to do with him.
I guess their first dilemma must've been whether to make him 'good' or 'bad', and once they'd gone with good, then that logically presents the problem of "what made Randall change?" And then THAT leads onto the problem of, "it must've been something to do with Mike and/or Sulley because he hates them so much in MI".
And then THAT leads onto the problem of, "we can't have our two main protagonists come across as being mean or hurtful to someone as nice as Randy!" Because they want people to like Mike and Sulley, ultimately (even if Sulley's a bit of an idiot to begin with) so that doesn't fit in with the plan.
So then they were torn- they really wanted that nice, cute Randy, and they wanted to show a metamorphosis of some kind, but they couldn't blame it all on Mike and Sulley. That's why it's all so subtle and Randy appears to change without much of a catalyst, really; he just suddenly sort of goes "I hate Sullivan now". And even if you argue that it's due to the little things Sulley did and so on, it's still not entirely convincing.
I don't know about you guys, but I really got the feeling that so much stuff happened behind the scenes with Randy's character, so much stuff that might have contributed to his change- Mike not being a great friend, Sulley being a richard, ROR making fun of him and using him. We get little hints of all of these things but we don't really SEE it, not properly, which is why so many people are accusing poor Randy of being bad all along.
Anyway, just another theory of mine. It's a shame because the one phrase that I think really describes Randy in MU is: missed opportunity. They could've done so much with him, but they didn't because they felt they couldn't.
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Post by pitbulllady on Jul 15, 2013 17:34:03 GMT -5
That's the main thing I got from MU concerning Randall: they just didn't know what to do with him. I guess their first dilemma must've been whether to make him 'good' or 'bad', and once they'd gone with good, then that logically presents the problem of "what made Randall change?" And then THAT leads onto the problem of, "it must've been something to do with Mike and/or Sulley because he hates them so much in MI". And then THAT leads onto the problem of, "we can't have our two main protagonists come across as being mean or hurtful to someone as nice as Randy!" Because they want people to like Mike and Sulley, ultimately (even if Sulley's a bit of an idiot to begin with) so that doesn't fit in with the plan. So then they were torn- they really wanted that nice, cute Randy, and they wanted to show a metamorphosis of some kind, but they couldn't blame it all on Mike and Sulley. That's why it's all so subtle and Randy appears to change without much of a catalyst, really; he just suddenly sort of goes "I hate Sullivan now". And even if you argue that it's due to the little things Sulley did and so on, it's still not entirely convincing. I don't know about you guys, but I really got the feeling that so much stuff happened behind the scenes with Randy's character, so much stuff that might have contributed to his change- Mike not being a great friend, Sulley being a richard, ROR making fun of him and using him. We get little hints of all of these things but we don't really SEE it, not properly, which is why so many people are accusing poor Randy of being bad all along. Anyway, just another theory of mine. It's a shame because the one phrase that I think really describes Randy in MU is: missed opportunity. They could've done so much with him, but they didn't because they felt they couldn't. I agree totally. Unfortunately, you can only put so much in a movie without making it a three-hour epic that children won't sit through, so a lot has to be left out, and it is indeed implied that at LOT of things took place between Mike and Randall, like more of Randall trying to get Mike to go to parties and do fun things together and Mike turning him down time and time again, and when he DID agree to go someplace with Randall, like the football game, he still takes his books along and ignores Randall so he can study, defeating the entire purpose of going in the first place. I would really love to have seen more behind-the-scenes with Randall and the ROR guys, too, how they recruited him, how they treated him, what they told him, etc. We never even hear Randall speak a word between the time that Johnny calls him over to "do the thing" and that angry pledge never to lose to Sullivan again. Even when he's with them, it's like he does not DARE open his mouth, and in fact that might have been the case, that he was not allowed to speak to them unless they spoke to him first. A missed opportunity indeed, but then, MU was such a "Mike Wazowski Movie" that it should have been named THAT instead, and Mike clearly saw Randall as just a piece of the background in this movie and a useless big of garbage to be thrown away by MI, so Mike's story was not going to be wasted on someone like that. So many people just absolutely love Mike more than ever because of this movie, but it has renewed my dislike of the guy. There are certain qualities I can admire about him, but again, I have to wonder if those "qualities" appear simply because this movie was told from Mike's perspective and reflect his own grandiose view of himself. One has to wonder how he got from someone who'd stare Johnny Worthington, who could have stomped him into the dirt without thinking twice, in the eye to someone who'd nearly pee himself when confronted by Randall in the hallway at MI, but then you have to consider that MI was told largely from SULLEY'S POV, so Sulley's depiction of Mike is not as perfect and amazing as MIKE'S depiction of Mike! pitbulllady |
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Post by RandallBoggs on Jul 15, 2013 18:08:48 GMT -5
This is why I've said before that the scenes with Randall, while brief, speak volumes if you pay attention.
And even things not concerning him. For instance...the beginning of the film (well when Wazowski arrives) technically happens in August. Finals, in December. Scare Games, in Janurary if I recall. There's a LOT of time we DON'T see with Randall and Wazowski as "friends".
I think Pixar did a good job. We see Randall as he really is, a nice guy that just wanted to fit in. He gets manipulate through it and gets out worse for it. We SEE the struggle going on with him.
And you know, PBL's right...after the "do the trick" bit, Randall never says anything besides the end bit at the Scare Games. You'd think he'd say SOMETHING. People who dislike him can't even argue he said anything mean or belittling to anybody, and that leads to more that he was...yeah...afraid to. Why? Because what if he did say something mean? He'd be acting like the jerks who'd treated him years past. What if he said something encouraging? Well, a swift slap to the back of the head from Johnny would set him straight.
To be honest, the people who NOTICE this stuff about Randall probably have more...matured qualities. I mean Wazowski and Sullivan are slated as "the good guys" so normal response for people is to pay attention and yearn for them. It takes some effort and some study to see there is more going on with Randall then what's openly presented.
Whether intended or not...what happened between the three of them is now even more important than it was with MI alone. Randall's the only one who got the short end of the stick, and keeps getting the short end.
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Post by number-1-scarer on Jul 15, 2013 18:17:19 GMT -5
wouldnt it be crazy good if they released one version for the kids and then another for the adult fans with all the junk they had to leave out of the kids one haha im actually not sure the viewings of the kids one would fair so well in comparison to the viewings of the adult one.
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Post by seafoamonster on Jul 16, 2013 14:01:06 GMT -5
Lol. You're just now figuring out that Pixar had no idea what to do with him?  Lol. I knew that the moment they revealed that in the concept art book. It was more or less stated that they didn't know whether to make him a nice lonely nerd guy, a typical bully jock, or a stuck up, snobby, know-it-all. Though I agree with everything that you're saying though. Also. This maybe just me jumping to conclusions but, I think that the workers at Pixar are divided over Randall. Like maybe one side likes him but another side does not. (Wouldn't be the first time somethings like this happened. Just look at Mary Jane from Spider-Man.) This could have led to or had some effect on how he was portrayed throughout the movie. Yeah, that's a good thought. I can see that happening. I wonder what would happen if he was portrayed as "bad" or had his MI attitude in MU? |
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Post by CrazyDiamond on Jul 16, 2013 14:25:24 GMT -5
Lol. You're just now figuring out that Pixar had no idea what to do with him? Lol. I knew that the moment they revealed that in the concept art book. It was more or less stated that they didn't know whether to make him a nice lonely nerd guy, a typical bully jock, or a stuck up, snobby, know-it-all. Though I agree with everything that you're saying though. Also. This maybe just me jumping to conclusions but, I think that the workers at Pixar are divided over Randall. Like maybe one side likes him but another side does not. (Wouldn't be the first time somethings like this happened. Just look at Mary Jane from Spider-Man.) This could have led to or had some effect on how he was portrayed throughout the movie. Well, that's why there is a person called director who has to make these decisions and others must follow. But I totally agree with Lizardgirl: Randall is good sequel material, but very poor prequel material. |
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Post by mintygreen on Jul 25, 2013 22:08:48 GMT -5
That's the main thing I got from MU concerning Randall: they just didn't know what to do with him. I guess their first dilemma must've been whether to make him 'good' or 'bad', and once they'd gone with good, then that logically presents the problem of "what made Randall change?" And then THAT leads onto the problem of, "it must've been something to do with Mike and/or Sulley because he hates them so much in MI". And then THAT leads onto the problem of, "we can't have our two main protagonists come across as being mean or hurtful to someone as nice as Randy!" Because they want people to like Mike and Sulley, ultimately (even if Sulley's a bit of an idiot to begin with) so that doesn't fit in with the plan. So then they were torn- they really wanted that nice, cute Randy, and they wanted to show a metamorphosis of some kind, but they couldn't blame it all on Mike and Sulley. That's why it's all so subtle and Randy appears to change without much of a catalyst, really; he just suddenly sort of goes "I hate Sullivan now". And even if you argue that it's due to the little things Sulley did and so on, it's still not entirely convincing. I don't know about you guys, but I really got the feeling that so much stuff happened behind the scenes with Randy's character, so much stuff that might have contributed to his change- Mike not being a great friend, Sulley being a richard, ROR making fun of him and using him. We get little hints of all of these things but we don't really SEE it, not properly, which is why so many people are accusing poor Randy of being bad all along. Anyway, just another theory of mine. It's a shame because the one phrase that I think really describes Randy in MU is: missed opportunity. They could've done so much with him, but they didn't because they felt they couldn't. Your post makes perfect sense to me. I think this is what happened. What's interesting though is that it would have obviously been EASIER for them to just go and make him bad from the get go but they didn't do that. They took the harder route with his character, which does give me more hope that they really do plan to do more with his character in the future. |
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Post by lizardgirl on Jul 26, 2013 10:53:52 GMT -5
What's interesting though is that it would have obviously been EASIER for them to just go and make him bad from the get go but they didn't do that. They took the harder route with his character, which does give me more hope that they really do plan to do more with his character in the future. I thought that initially, too. But then when I actually saw the film...I don't know. Part of me thinks they made that decision just to draw in the crowds, because getting an infamous 'villain' such as Randall and making him cute in a prequel would immediately spark people's interests. It might just have been a bit of a shrewd decision on Pixar's behalf: what seems more interesting, the same old villain we've seen before, or something totally different to make people ask that fateful question, "what happened to him?" Sort of sucks that they didn't actually ANSWER that question, but hey ho. Anyway, I hope it's a bit of both, at least- that making him good was both to intrigue audiences, but also so that they could do more with him in the future. I guess we'll have to wait and see to find out! |
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Post by CrazyDiamond on Jul 26, 2013 14:17:32 GMT -5
What's interesting though is that it would have obviously been EASIER for them to just go and make him bad from the get go but they didn't do that. They took the harder route with his character, which does give me more hope that they really do plan to do more with his character in the future. I thought that initially, too. But then when I actually saw the film...I don't know. Part of me thinks they made that decision just to draw in the crowds, because getting an infamous 'villain' such as Randall and making him cute in a prequel would immediately spark people's interests. It might just have been a bit of a shrewd decision on Pixar's behalf: what seems more interesting, the same old villain we've seen before, or something totally different to make people ask that fateful question, "what happened to him?" Sort of sucks that they didn't actually ANSWER that question, but hey ho. Anyway, I hope it's a bit of both, at least- that making him good was both to intrigue audiences, but also so that they could do more with him in the future. I guess we'll have to wait and see to find out! I agree. Also, I have one more idea about it. My hypothesis is the following: Let's assume that Disney/Pixar does indeed plan to make a sequel to MI. If that's the case, they have to deal with the whole Randall situation, right? His fate remains unresolved after MI and he has a ton of fans...They won't make Mike and Sulley murderers, that's for sure (unless they opt for a full-of-angst film noire). They will want to keep them being the protagonists, the good guys, so... I guess they will come up with a story of Randall learning a lesson from his banishment and getting redemption. Although this whole "Thank you guys for banishing me, the shovel was great" plot might seem a bit ridiculous, it a) solves Randall's fate, b) turns what Mike and Sulley did to him on its head and c) enables Disney to capitalize Randall even more. WIN-WIN-WIN situation... But, of course, only time will tell... |
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Post by pitbulllady on Jul 26, 2013 16:16:04 GMT -5
I thought that initially, too. But then when I actually saw the film...I don't know. Part of me thinks they made that decision just to draw in the crowds, because getting an infamous 'villain' such as Randall and making him cute in a prequel would immediately spark people's interests. It might just have been a bit of a shrewd decision on Pixar's behalf: what seems more interesting, the same old villain we've seen before, or something totally different to make people ask that fateful question, "what happened to him?" Sort of sucks that they didn't actually ANSWER that question, but hey ho. Anyway, I hope it's a bit of both, at least- that making him good was both to intrigue audiences, but also so that they could do more with him in the future. I guess we'll have to wait and see to find out! I agree. Also, I have one more idea about it. My hypothesis is the following: Let's assume that Disney/Pixar does indeed plan to make a sequel to MI. If that's the case, they have to deal with the whole Randall situation, right? His fate remains unresolved after MI and he has a ton of fans...They won't make Mike and Sulley murderers, that's for sure (unless they opt for a full-of-angst film noire). They will want to keep them being the protagonists, the good guys, so... I guess they will come up with a story of Randall learning a lesson from his banishment and getting redemption. Although this whole "Thank you guys for banishing me, the shovel was great" plot might seem a bit ridiculous, it a) solves Randall's fate, b) turns what Mike and Sulley did to him on its head and c) enables Disney to capitalize Randall even more. WIN-WIN-WIN situation... But, of course, only time will tell... Here's what concerns me, though. Who does Pixar listen to, the Randall fans like ourselves who understand that Mike and Sulley did something very wrong, possibly committing murder...or the Mike and Sulley fans who believe that what they did was completely justified, that Mike and Sulley are heroes, and have no problem with what they did, even if it's confirmed that Randall DID die? Mike really gained a LOT of fans in MU, who believe he's an angel, who can do no wrong, and that Randall is the bad guy and always was for "dumping" Mike and "betraying" him, and that Randall's hate for Sulley was just out-of-the-blue and all due to Sulley beating him in the Scare Games. They can't understand just how emotionally traumatizing that was for Randall, so in their opinions, that scene simply forced him to show his "true colors", revealing that he always was evil and horrible. For us, the logical solution would be to have a resolution to Randall's story, to have the three of them-him, Mike and Sulley-have to get their feelings and thoughts out in the open once and for all, but for many other fans of the franchise, they'd just as soon either never hear Randall's name mentioned again, or want to see him come back as a revenge-bent Scooby Doo type of villain, who is ultimately defeated yet again and most certainly killed for certain the next time around. In many ways, MU made things worse for us by making so many people absolutely love Mike even more. Given the audience reactions to Randall and Mike in MU, I'm left wondering just why they put Randall in the movie in the first place-whether it was to whet audience appetites for more Randall later, for a redemption arc involving him, or just a token nod to his fans that was never really meant to go anywhere else. Their intentions for him might change given the amount of negative reaction to him in MU. My optimism for Pixar continuing his story has faded somewhat, needless to say, based on reactions to him and his lack of an obvious story in MU. pitbulllady |
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Post by CrazyDiamond on Jul 26, 2013 16:43:04 GMT -5
Here's what concerns me, though. Who does Pixar listen to, the Randall fans like ourselves who understand that Mike and Sulley did something very wrong, possibly committing murder...or the Mike and Sulley fans who believe that what they did was completely justified, that Mike and Sulley are heroes, and have no problem with what they did, even if it's confirmed that Randall DID die? Mike really gained a LOT of fans in MU, who believe he's an angel, who can do no wrong, and that Randall is the bad guy and always was for "dumping" Mike and "betraying" him, and that Randall's hate for Sulley was just out-of-the-blue and all due to Sulley beating him in the Scare Games. They can't understand just how emotionally traumatizing that was for Randall, so in their opinions, that scene simply forced him to show his "true colors", revealing that he always was evil and horrible. For us, the logical solution would be to have a resolution to Randall's story, to have the three of them-him, Mike and Sulley-have to get their feelings and thoughts out in the open once and for all, but for many other fans of the franchise, they'd just as soon either never hear Randall's name mentioned again, or want to see him come back as a revenge-bent Scooby Doo type of villain, who is ultimately defeated yet again and most certainly killed for certain the next time around. In many ways, MU made things worse for us by making so many people absolutely love Mike even more. Given the audience reactions to Randall and Mike in MU, I'm left wondering just why they put Randall in the movie in the first place-whether it was to whet audience appetites for more Randall later, for a redemption arc involving him, or just a token nod to his fans that was never really meant to go anywhere else. Their intentions for him might change given the amount of negative reaction to him in MU. My optimism for Pixar continuing his story has faded somewhat, needless to say, based on reactions to him and his lack of an obvious story in MU. pitbulllady Personally, I think Pixar listens to no one. Plus, giving Randall a redemption courtesy of Mike and/or Sulley would make Mike and Sulley look better than trying to justify them taking justice into their hands. Perhaps someone from the US should print most of the available Randall fan art pics and mail them directly to Lasseter. My "saved fan art" folder currently ticks at 900+ pics, and I don't even have half of what dA has to offer... I am pretty sure it would spur a reaction. |
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Post by RandallBoggs on Jul 26, 2013 17:44:05 GMT -5
The thing about Randall is...ironically he thinks Sullivan is the bane of his existence...partly he IS since Sullivan's done nothing to help fix what he DID do...but the fact is...MU was about Sullivan and Wazowski's rivalry.
Although they SHOWED what happened CORRECTLY...if they showed Randall as he's not, a rivalisit jerk, then that means Wazowski (mr. protagonist) is dealing with TWO problems. Randall AND Sullivan. That would certainly put the focus OFF of the two's rivalry. Showing Randall as a direct problem would take attention away from the purpose.
As for the sequel, showing Randall "learned" something from his illegal banishment is...quite idiotic. Ok, sure, learning humans aren't animals and such...but to show that "hey, we nearly killed this guy, but at least he learned to to smile"
Randall is seriously injured and is not going to be thinking all nice-nice, that's for sure. For Sullivan and Wazowski to GET OUT AGAIN of facing things is really just a flip-off to any decent person out there.
I've been working up sequel material...and it's not exactly with Randall having learned much other than to SURVIVE as he HAS been doing basically his whole life. Funny enough, it's thanks to RANDALL that Sullivan's able to cope with HIS OWN problem.
It's not so much suppose to be about Randall learning anything. HE was the only one who HAD the good qualities FROM THE START. They are IN him. They weren't in there for Sullivan and Wazowski. Randall doesn't need to learn, he just needs to be in a safe place, recover, and try and figure things out. That's not going to happen when your trying to survive in a different world where most of the inhabitants would sooner kill you than speak a word.
And I mean seriously...one word....cupcakes. Anybody remembered how THAT was when it was first shown? Aside from a literal lame joke...they did NOT, at all, have to show him with'em. I'd like to hope that was the prime shoutout to us here that "hey, they're on to something".
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Post by pitbulllady on Jul 26, 2013 17:51:26 GMT -5
Here's what concerns me, though. Who does Pixar listen to, the Randall fans like ourselves who understand that Mike and Sulley did something very wrong, possibly committing murder...or the Mike and Sulley fans who believe that what they did was completely justified, that Mike and Sulley are heroes, and have no problem with what they did, even if it's confirmed that Randall DID die? Mike really gained a LOT of fans in MU, who believe he's an angel, who can do no wrong, and that Randall is the bad guy and always was for "dumping" Mike and "betraying" him, and that Randall's hate for Sulley was just out-of-the-blue and all due to Sulley beating him in the Scare Games. They can't understand just how emotionally traumatizing that was for Randall, so in their opinions, that scene simply forced him to show his "true colors", revealing that he always was evil and horrible. For us, the logical solution would be to have a resolution to Randall's story, to have the three of them-him, Mike and Sulley-have to get their feelings and thoughts out in the open once and for all, but for many other fans of the franchise, they'd just as soon either never hear Randall's name mentioned again, or want to see him come back as a revenge-bent Scooby Doo type of villain, who is ultimately defeated yet again and most certainly killed for certain the next time around. In many ways, MU made things worse for us by making so many people absolutely love Mike even more. Given the audience reactions to Randall and Mike in MU, I'm left wondering just why they put Randall in the movie in the first place-whether it was to whet audience appetites for more Randall later, for a redemption arc involving him, or just a token nod to his fans that was never really meant to go anywhere else. Their intentions for him might change given the amount of negative reaction to him in MU. My optimism for Pixar continuing his story has faded somewhat, needless to say, based on reactions to him and his lack of an obvious story in MU. pitbulllady Personally, I think Pixar listens to no one. Plus, giving Randall a redemption courtesy of Mike and/or Sulley would make Mike and Sulley look better than trying to justify them taking justice into their hands. Perhaps someone from the US should print most of the available Randall fan art pics and mail them directly to Lasseter. My "saved fan art" folder currently ticks at 900+ pics, and I don't even have half of what dA has to offer... I am pretty sure it would spur a reaction. What bothers me, though, is that if the reaction to most fans to what Mike and Sulley did is one of, "hey, it was justified, and I have no problem with it. Randall deserved what he got and Mike and Sulley are heroes", then is it unreasonable to think that the people at Pixar feel the same way, and therefore don't find it necessary to resolve what happened to Randall, and have no problem themselves with that basically meaning that Mike and Sulley committed murder for revenge? I mean, that really does not worry most of the fans. They don't CARE that Mike and Sulley took the law into their own hands and LYNCHED another monster! THAT'S the scary part, that so many people are OK with that, so there's no pressure on Pixar to "fix" that image. WE know it was wrong, but so many other people completely accept the idea of Mike and Sulley murdering Randall and believe that it was justified, and don't feel that this makes Mike and Sulley "bad" at all. pitbulllady |
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Post by RandallBoggs on Jul 26, 2013 17:57:30 GMT -5
It's OK! We're OK! Oozma Kappa had murders yay!
...Seriously though, I'm giving Pixar at least some credence since they showed Randall well. Let's also remind ourselves that in external things, like the comics and Infinity, Randall has been getting increased attention in a good way.
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Post by pitbulllady on Jul 26, 2013 18:11:23 GMT -5
The thing about Randall is...ironically he thinks Sullivan is the bane of his existence...partly he IS since Sullivan's done nothing to help fix what he DID do...but the fact is...MU was about Sullivan and Wazowski's rivalry. Although they SHOWED what happened CORRECTLY...if they showed Randall as he's not, a rivalisit jerk, then that means Wazowski (mr. protagonist) is dealing with TWO problems. Randall AND Sullivan. That would certainly put the focus OFF of the two's rivalry. Showing Randall as a direct problem would take attention away from the purpose. As for the sequel, showing Randall "learned" something from his illegal banishment is...quite idiotic. Ok, sure, learning humans aren't animals and such...but to show that "hey, we nearly killed this guy, but at least he learned to to smile" Randall is seriously injured and is not going to be thinking all nice-nice, that's for sure. For Sullivan and Wazowski to GET OUT AGAIN of facing things is really just a flip-off to any decent person out there. I've been working up sequel material...and it's not exactly with Randall having learned much other than to SURVIVE as he HAS been doing basically his whole life. Funny enough, it's thanks to RANDALL that Sullivan's able to cope with HIS OWN problem. It's not so much suppose to be about Randall learning anything. HE was the only one who HAD the good qualities FROM THE START. They are IN him. They weren't in there for Sullivan and Wazowski. Randall doesn't need to learn, he just needs to be in a safe place, recover, and try and figure things out. That's not going to happen when your trying to survive in a different world where most of the inhabitants would sooner kill you than speak a word. And I mean seriously...one word....cupcakes. Anybody remembered how THAT was when it was first shown? Aside from a literal lame joke...they did NOT, at all, have to show him with'em. I'd like to hope that was the prime shoutout to us here that "hey, they're on to something". So, let me get this straight, because this is what I'm getting from this post...you DO NOT want to see Randall reformed. You do NOT believe that he can learn from his mistakes, that IF he shows up again, he's gonna just be hell-bent on revenge, a straight-up villain this time, who just wants to hurt Mike and Sulley like they hurt him, and as a result, they're gonna have to defeat him again. You don't think that Randall will be able to realize that HE messed up by dealing with Waternoose in the first place, that he still will believe that the plot with the Scream Extractor was the best thing ever..." and it would have worked, too, if it hadn't been for Sullivan and that meddling KID"...is THAT what I'm seeing? I mean, Randall DID so many wrong things, and NOT having him admit that would simply prove what the haters have been saying all along, that Randall IS evil, that he has no conscious, no moral code at all, and no cupcakes or other sweet things he did in MU will temper that in the minds of most fans-once evil, always evil. There are really only two possible reasons for Pixar to bring Randall back-to either have him redeem himself, by admitting that HE did wrong and WANTING to make ammends, OR to have him return as that all-out villain, wanting to hurt dear beloved Mike and Sulley, who has to be eliminated permanently, definitively this time. Pixar might make a Randall-centric sequel, but you can bet that they are NOT going to leave Mike and Sulley out of the mix and just focus on Randall trying to survive and figure things out. There is going to HAVE to be interaction between him and the Holy Couple, and if it's negative, if he is still obviously harboring ill-will towards them and cannot at least come to terms with what happened between the three of them, the majority of fans are just going to use that as evidence that Randall is evil. That is ESPECIALLY true now, because so many people have really fallen in love with Mike after seeing MU, so ANYONE who wants to hurt Mike is going to be seen as Satan Incarnate. pitbulllady |
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