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Post by number-1-scarer on Jul 8, 2013 17:24:05 GMT -5
people are no longer even willing to have mature debates over things, im specifically talking about tumblr. Now im not one to get involved in those randalls a jerk/ randalls innocent arguments, however it seems that its pointless trying to get your point across anyway so a heads up to people; i wouldnt bother arguing back. they are denying cold hard facts and thats whats annoting me and that fact that as soon as someone makes an actual valid point its dismissed as ' your wrong' or 'you probably didnt look propperly'. the fact that they said probably means they havnt looked for themselves and even if they did they would deny seeing anything becaus ethey dont want to admit they are wrong. aghhh sorry for the rant people its just thats the thing that irks me with any form of debate when people start to deny or refuse to acknowledge actual facts  |
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Post by pitbulllady on Jul 8, 2013 17:30:47 GMT -5
people are no longer even willing to have mature debates over things, im specifically talking about tumblr. Now im not one to get involved in those randalls a jerk/ randalls innocent arguments, however it seems that its pointless trying to get your point across anyway so a heads up to people; i wouldnt bother arguing back. they are denying cold hard facts and thats whats annoting me and that fact that as soon as someone makes an actual valid point its dismissed as ' your wrong' or 'you probably didnt look propperly'. the fact that they said probably means they havnt looked for themselves and even if they did they would deny seeing anything becaus ethey dont want to admit they are wrong. aghhh sorry for the rant people its just thats the thing that irks me with any form of debate when people start to deny or refuse to acknowledge actual facts You mean the guy who says that there isn't a bloody butcher knife and meat cleaver on the wall of that trailer, that I made it all up or imagined it based on a "grainy" poor-quality bootleg screen cap so I could "woobify" Randall? pitbulllady |
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Post by number-1-scarer on Jul 8, 2013 17:39:41 GMT -5
people are no longer even willing to have mature debates over things, im specifically talking about tumblr. Now im not one to get involved in those randalls a jerk/ randalls innocent arguments, however it seems that its pointless trying to get your point across anyway so a heads up to people; i wouldnt bother arguing back. they are denying cold hard facts and thats whats annoting me and that fact that as soon as someone makes an actual valid point its dismissed as ' your wrong' or 'you probably didnt look propperly'. the fact that they said probably means they havnt looked for themselves and even if they did they would deny seeing anything becaus ethey dont want to admit they are wrong. aghhh sorry for the rant people its just thats the thing that irks me with any form of debate when people start to deny or refuse to acknowledge actual facts You mean the guy who says that there isn't a bloody butcher knife and meat cleaver on the wall of that trailer, that I made it all up or imagined it based on a "grainy" poor-quality bootleg screen cap so I could "woobify" Randall? pitbulllady that would be the one lol saying someone made something up when if they bothered to look even a little bit they would realise they are infect wrong XI the thing that annoys me the most is, is the fact that this person probably has gone back to look after it was pointed out realised they were wrong and yet still wont accept that maybe on that one point of the argument that they are wrong. ughh so IRRITATING |
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Post by CrazyDiamond on Jul 8, 2013 17:41:43 GMT -5
Quick advice, then: don't feed the trolls  |
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Post by number-1-scarer on Jul 8, 2013 17:46:46 GMT -5
Quick advice, then: don't feed the trolls haha i know right  its so hard to ignore lol |
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Post by RandallBoggs on Jul 8, 2013 17:58:00 GMT -5
Defending Randall with facts is just something some of us do. It's the RIGHT thing to do...
But yes, it can grow frustrating. As I've said before, humanity as a mass are idiots. They only wish to hate and discard facts because their primal drive is to focus their attention, however brief, on something just to hate the ever loving crud out of it.
I've had to "defend" Randall before, but my process is not to crush the opposition, but to get them to think, to understand. I've been successful on some attempts...others...agree/disagree moments.
Regardless, such events lead credence to the failings of society's ability to understand. They want heroes to love, and villains to hate.
Don't let these people stress you out, they just fail to understand and aren't worth it. Especially these days, when people have so much more to worry about. I'm trying to draw strength from what Randall has gone through and have known him for a long time. If these people won't understand, oh well. Let them have their opinions, they're entitled to them, even if they're wrong.
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Oh now I remember. Busy trying to get a lot of stuff done in a mass of chaos that I forgot...
This whole woobifying/Draco Leath Pants thing is a pretty pathetic thing. I've seen this "trope" on TvTropes...which I guess is where these terms originated from (or rather where those who say the word got the info from) and...no. No.
The "poster child" for Draco in Leather Pants for instance is Sephiroth. Really? Him? Ok for those who don't know, let me give you the clip notes. Bad guy of FF7...had a bad past, yeah, because he found out he was the test-tube baby of some cells from an ancient person (who was actually an extraterrestrial parasite). Upon learning this dreadful truth, he gets a complex and decided to go all "I want to be god" for dear old mommy. Ok, so he was devastated over things and trying to find out what to do (that whole, "I'm not a real person, what do I do now?" thing).
So what does he do? Incite a plan to DESTROY THE WORLD. Ok, technically he wanted to wound it with a METEOR to take control of the planet...but lets not chip the paint on this.
OK, shocking for him, but this is a FARCRY from Randall in EVERY way. Creating a machine to help himself AND others is SO far from world DESTRUCTION (not domination) that the sheer mention of this trope in full in relation to Randall is just...wow.
As for wooby. Well oh well. That's a matter of opinion for the moment.
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Post by randallsnape7 on Mar 7, 2014 21:28:05 GMT -5
I don't get this thread. WHO is denying WHAT? Is this thread about Randall, or the debates circulating about Randall? I really don't get the point this thread is trying to make... it's confusing.
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Post by pitbulllady on Mar 7, 2014 22:46:36 GMT -5
I don't get this thread. WHO is denying WHAT? Is this thread about Randall, or the debates circulating about Randall? I really don't get the point this thread is trying to make... it's confusing. It's about someone on Tumblr who, even after being shown hi-definition screen caps of the bloody butcher knife and meat cleaver/chopping block, insisted that there were no such items in those pictures and that Randall didn't get hurt or killed, and even if he did, he deserved it because he was so "evil". Several people, myself included, posted the pics and even circled and enlarged the knife and meat cleaver, which you can plainly SEE are just what I said they are, and the guy still said that it was just "shadows" or some "white thing" on the wall that proved nothing. Anyway, we all came to the conclusion that he was no more than a troll, and he has not posted anything else on MU/MI that I know of. The guy was calling everyone who said that there was a knife in that scene "stupid", etc. and said that those who were saying that Randall was probably killed were just trying to "woobify" him. pitbulllady |
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its so hard to ignore lol
