bluemoon
Randall's Skivvy (0-299)
One of these days these boots are gonna walk all over you
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Post by bluemoon on Jun 21, 2007 16:16:47 GMT -5
After Randall dies, I just stop watching. I watched it with someone else and she was crying at the Sulley/Boo scene but I was more upset at the Randall scene and sulley is sooooo mega evil!!! grr hate him he's mean, anyways, i turn it off after randall is killed, actually i turn it off before that i mean he BEGS them not too and they're so mean and sadistic (is that the right word for someone who enjoys seeing someone else SUFFER??) Does anyone else not like/not watch the end?? it's so rubbish without randall! they should have had a five-second clip right at the end seeing randall crawling out of the trailer thingy.....anyways this is making me angry and makes no sense so i'll shut up but who agrees with me?
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Post by pitbulllady on Jun 21, 2007 18:31:34 GMT -5
I cannot bring myself to watch the movie once it reaches the point where Sulley grabs Randall by the neck in the closet. I can't watch that part where Sulley and Mike and throwing him through that trailer door, acting as though they're at a party or something, celebrating with evil glee, with him begging them for a second chance, something HE gave THEM more than once, especially that lying little green walking booger! I'm not convinced that Randall is dead, although I'm sure that we're supposed to believe that he is, given that in Louisiana, people EAT alligators.
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Post by lizardgirl on Jul 10, 2007 11:31:39 GMT -5
I once actually forgot exactly what happened after Randall is banished, and for someone who watches the film at least once a month, that's quite a strange thing.
It all seems very...pointless, after Randall is gone. The bit with Sulley saying goodbye to Boo, I always feel like saying, "So what? The REAL tragedy here is what you've done to Randall!" Even the bit with Waternoose going to jail never really compensates for what happens previously. I just spend the entire time thinking about Randall in that godforsaken swamp. What happens to Mike, Sulley, Boo and any other characters is completely unimportant in comparison, and I actually find it almost crude how everything just carries on in such a normal way afterwards. It's just creepy.
Most of the time, I'll stop the film at the scene right after Randall's little speech. Even Boo bonking him on the head with a toy bat unnerves me slightly. And the fear in Randall's eyes when Sulley grabs hold of him...It's very painful to watch.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2007 18:33:44 GMT -5
Beaten this topic to death with a stick already. Yes, quite odd how it all played out without remorse, but at the same time they had time constraints on the movie's length so that's one of the things you have to do when you write, if you have a certain length you have to fulfill, well you can't spend overly long amounts of time exploring EVERY aspect of the plot. I mean I consider the whole MOVIE itself very limited if we're looking at it in terms like that, because the whole WORLD of Monsters is completely unexplored and was barely touched on.
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Post by Bert on Dec 12, 2007 21:21:40 GMT -5
I just thought of something:
Just because Randall was beaten over the head with a shovel doesn't mean he's dead. The scene goes back to Mike and Sulley acting like the evil jerks they are. Randall could very well be alive... scratch that, he IS alive!
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Post by randallsnape7 on Jun 2, 2014 14:19:06 GMT -5
Yeah... I ALWAYS watch the end of the movie, but lizardgirl is right: After Randall's banishment, the rest of the movie seems to ring hollow, in a very eerie way. The rest of the scenes feel strangely unimportant - or less important, at the very least - as they play out.
Waternoose's arrest feels less powerful, in that while he's the main villain and he's being exposed, Randall is still out there, going through who knows what.
Um... ick. Seeing Sulley say goodbye to Boo always feels like it just misses the mark. It's really not as moving a scene as most people believe it to be... but most of us wouldn't dare say that in a crowd for fear of being misconstrued as being INSENSITIVE toward a little girl, or Sulley, "who's acting as a loving parent". I'm sorry, folks! Seeing a Jessie doll and a Nemo doll in Sulley's hands DOESN'T compensate for that void I feel in Randall's absence... feels more like we're being buttered up as viewers. Yeah, I've felt that "So, what?" factor every time the film reaches that point.
The Laugh Floor? Errr... great idea, but it NEVER feels like closure. Revamping a building and improving a company cannot compensate for endangering the life of another, and WELL SAID. The end plays out as rather crude, that Randall's fate is just shrugged off so flippantly. It's... really hard to watch, I have NEVER been able to take my mind off Randall... no, not even once. If this was genuinely, originally intended to be the END, then it is a very shallow, hollow one, and it sends a very, very wrong message to its' audience - especially young viewers. Two wrongs do NOT make a right, and we've seen in all the great films of our time how taking revenge backfires drastically on the characters who walk such paths, usually leaving them with a huge mess about 3x bigger than whatever problem was initially there to begin with.
The end of the movie doesn't feel like a genuine victory at all... it feels more like we're being put into a false sense of security, as if Mike and Sulley are polishing their medals too soon, as if a hidden Trojan horse is waiting in the wings in a third film... waiting to plunge ALL of Monstropolis into chaos and devestation. The way I feel about Randall, if I actually saw humans invading Monsters, Inc., and threating Mike and Sulley, I'd be surpressing laughter, thinking "Ha, ha! Serves you right!!!". Mike and Sulley would like TOTALLY deserve it.
Go ahead, humans... be loud, boisterous, arrogant, seize control, change the whole place around so that Randall can finally save Mike and Sulley's sorry behinds! |
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Post by reptile682 on Jun 16, 2014 23:22:08 GMT -5
Randall's banishment scene was just sickening and even more so at the fact that Mike and Sulley were enjoying themselves, Mike especially, as Randall was pleading with them not to throw him in that door. To add to that, they acted so nonchalant afterwards as if nothing happened. It has been many years since I've seen that scene and beyond and that is the last time I'll ever see it again. For me, I compared the scene to The Green Mile When Percy Wetmore sabotages Del's execution and fries him to death. Sorry for getting a little off topic on that last sentence but that is how much Randall's banishment disturbed me. We can only hope that he is still alive.
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Post by randallsnape7 on Jun 18, 2014 0:55:32 GMT -5
Never fear, fellow Randall fan. Mike and Sulley's banishment of Randall is, from a storytelling perspective, the equivalent of Snape killing Dumbledore at the end of 'Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince'. It's the BIG misinterpretation scene.
I once read a book called 'The Great Snape Debate', and on that topic, it reasons with the reader that if now, all of a sudden, Snape is just another Death Eater, then all that character preparation was essentially wasted. The end of the sixth book only makes artistic sense if Snape's actions in the final 'Harry Potter' book are pivotal, and they can only be pivotal if they are in doubt.
Imagine a third 'Monsters' movie that shows tragedy and destruction striking the heart of Monsters, Inc. at the hands of arrogant humans wanting to take over Monstropolis... and as the story unfolds, Randall turns out to be the ONLY one that can save Mike, Sulley, and Boo from them. THAT is the kind of role Randall needs now... something HUGE, that will encompass the ENTIRE series, and make him a far more important character than anyone had ever imagined.
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Post by reptile682 on Jun 18, 2014 1:47:43 GMT -5
Never fear, fellow Randall fan. Mike and Sulley's banishment of Randall is, from a storytelling perspective, the equivalent of Snape killing Dumbledore at the end of 'Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince'. It's the BIG misinterpretation scene. I once read a book called 'The Great Snape Debate', and on that topic, it reasons with the reader that if now, all of a sudden, Snape is just another Death Eater, then all that character preparation was essentially wasted. The end of the sixth book only makes artistic sense if Snape's actions in the final 'Harry Potter' book are pivotal, and they can only be pivotal if they are in doubt. Imagine a third 'Monsters' movie that shows tragedy and destruction striking the heart of Monsters, Inc. at the hands of arrogant humans wanting to take over Monstropolis... and as the story unfolds, Randall turns out to be the ONLY one that can save Mike, Sulley, and Boo from them. THAT is the kind of role Randall needs now... something HUGE, that will encompass the ENTIRE series, and make him a far more important character than anyone had ever imagined. If that were the plot of the third movie where Randall saves the day, that would be truly epic |
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Post by reptile682 on Jun 18, 2014 1:52:51 GMT -5
Never fear, fellow Randall fan. Mike and Sulley's banishment of Randall is, from a storytelling perspective, the equivalent of Snape killing Dumbledore at the end of 'Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince'. It's the BIG misinterpretation scene. I once read a book called 'The Great Snape Debate', and on that topic, it reasons with the reader that if now, all of a sudden, Snape is just another Death Eater, then all that character preparation was essentially wasted. The end of the sixth book only makes artistic sense if Snape's actions in the final 'Harry Potter' book are pivotal, and they can only be pivotal if they are in doubt. Imagine a third 'Monsters' movie that shows tragedy and destruction striking the heart of Monsters, Inc. at the hands of arrogant humans wanting to take over Monstropolis... and as the story unfolds, Randall turns out to be the ONLY one that can save Mike, Sulley, and Boo from them. THAT is the kind of role Randall needs now... something HUGE, that will encompass the ENTIRE series, and make him a far more important character than anyone had ever imagined. If that were the plot of the third movie were Randall saves the day, that would truly be epic. After reading all seven Harry Potter books and seeing all the movies as well, Randall and Snape are in a way, similar. |
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Post by randallsnape7 on Jun 18, 2014 2:34:17 GMT -5
Apart from the fact that Snape's memories began by showing us Snape's childhood, I have always thought that we, as the viewers, need to see some flashbacks of Randall when he was just a little child - maybe 6 years old - which would allow us to rediscover and connect with Randall in a whole new way. Seeing a genuine smile on his face, and seeing him laugh and run and play would add to the impact of discovering when Randall started facing his own struggles and his ongoing humiliations. We could see exactly where Randall was raised (I still say he was raised by his mother - ONLY his mother, and that she was a simple farmer... and while she didn't know anything about how to fit in with the hip and trendy kids, she would undoubtedly be loving and gentle toward her son, as Randall's good qualities have to come from somewhere), and for just a moment, we could finally learn about RANDALL'S thoughts, RANDALL'S hopes, his fears, his joys, his cares... what makes him tick.
We need to see how he got accepted at 'Monsters University', we need to see that Johnny Worthington bullied and cajoled Randall into releasing those stuffed animals against his will, and we also need to see how and when Randall first met Henry J. Waternoose. I personally think once Waternoose showed him the Scream Extractor for the first time and explained his plan, Randall was smart enough to be able to see through it and recognized it as a company scandal, but after openly confronting Waternoose about it, he threatened to kill Randall if he ratted on him to anyone. I actually believe that despite what Mike and Sulley thought, Randall was protecting Boo from Waternoose all along.
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slayern8
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Post by slayern8 on May 17, 2023 14:30:50 GMT -5
The goodbye scene between Sulley and Boo at the end of the movie is sometimes too sad to handle for me. Especially since I am going through the growing up aspect of life right now. It’s great to see both Waternoose and Randall get their comeuppance, but the goodbye scene is very upsetting for me and the soundtrack is so hard to handle. It’s a tough one to finish. 😭😔
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Post by slayern8 on May 17, 2023 14:31:14 GMT -5
The goodbye scene between Sulley and Boo at the end of the movie is sometimes too sad to handle for me. Especially since I am going through the growing up aspect of life right now. It’s great to see both Waternoose and Randall get their comeuppance, but the goodbye scene is very upsetting for me and the soundtrack is so hard to handle. It’s a tough one to finish. 😭😔
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