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Post by lizardgirl on Feb 11, 2013 10:12:32 GMT -5
First official trailer of MU: www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbeFIfS8uno&feature=player_embeddedNo Randall really, though we do see him at 1:14 holding a tray of cupcakes... I think we see the back of his head in another shot too. Though I'm disappointed there's not more (any?) Randall, I'm not going to take this as a sign that he doesn't have a part to play- anyone remember the MI trailers? Did we see much of Randall in those? No, not really- so it seems as though although we know a lot about the main storyline of MU, there's a lot Pixar hasn't told us about (which is very much in keeping with their previous film releases- I always feel as though I'm watching a different movie than I expected from the trailer when it comes to Pixar films!) |
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Post by lizardgirl on Feb 11, 2013 13:12:55 GMT -5
Here are just some thoughts as I watch the trailer for the billionth time (SPOILERS AHOY, at least in terms of what you can gauge from a trailer haha):
- Sulley is part of the ROR fraternity.
- We first see Randall sitting next to Mike in a lecture theatre. I'm getting some serious vibes that Mike and Randall were actually originally friends... Especially since the other time we see him in the trailer he's carrying a tray of cupcakes- and once again, he's sharing the screen with Mike.
- Randall doesn't seem to be wearing glasses in the trailer.
- By the look on his face when Sulley drops the books in front of him and Mike, Randall isn't keen on Sulley from the get-go.
- The trailer is the first time we actually see Randall sitting. SITTING.
- Concurring with his look on the poster that was previously revealed, Randall seems to be a shy and unsure character- his bottom set of hands and the way he's sitting reveals this (I know it sounds like a bit of a stretch but if you pause the video at 1:09 you'll see what I mean). He also still has that softer facial expression, if looking a little peed off.
- His colouring is going to be beautiful in this film. His back at 1:14 is...wow. Very pretty!
- He seems to still have an underbite, thankfully.
- The Dean looks positively badass. However, why am I getting a Waternoose vibe from her? The "don't go in there, it's dangerous!" bit is reminding me a little too much of the scenario of someone in a position of power trying to hide a secret related to the large establishment they work in...Although that scene might actually be related to the idea of Mike and Sulley doing something really bad and then getting kicked out- this might be the bad thing they did.
- Mike is a...nerd? Err, not what I got from his character in MI, but hey ho. Looks like Sulley is definitely fitting into that jock stereotype nicely, though.
- I almost (ALMOST) feel sorry for Mike considering what a twazzock Sulley seems to be in this film...To begin with, at least. I don't think I'd like Sulley if I met him, let alone if I had to share a room with him.
- Oh, and the fact that Mike and Sulley formally make introductions to each other means that any attempt by Pixar to aim for continuity between MI and MU is pretty much blown out of the water.
So it would appear that Randall actually possibly starts off as Mike's sidekick/friend (maybe they're both nerds together?!), and then maybe he gets betrayed by him perhaps? I really do feel that whatever brings Mike and Sulley together is what drives a wedge between the two of them and Randall.
Anyway, these are just my thoughts...Can't wait to hear what you guys think!
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Post by RandallBoggs on Feb 11, 2013 19:34:53 GMT -5
Ugh, my net's possessed...it picks NOW to be a jerk of all times. Going to have to see this when I can...
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Post by RandallBoggs on Feb 11, 2013 20:21:49 GMT -5
As predicted, Sullivan has a connection to ROR. Now we seen this shot...before...with the lights...involving Wazowski and Archie (the Scare Pig) NOW...if Monster Colleges start in the fall/spring...and he lights could mean Christmas......I'm guessing this shot is LATER ON. The whole realization slap to the face that happens in a film (this one being Sullivan being honest in saying he doesn't think Wazowski is cut out to be a scarer, having been manipulated to show that honesty by being pulled into ROR).
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I know this is recent, but still...anybody find some disblief of Wazowski getting an A on that sheet?
OK, maybe he is a capable assistant when he DOES deal with his paperwork, but it seemed to have been a trait of his...
Of course my first thought is maybe Randall tutored him (or Wazowski cheated off him, would explain the distate)...
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Post by lizardgirl on Feb 11, 2013 20:49:02 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't get that Mike is suddenly this brainy try-hard. Or maybe he's JUST a try-hard...But then again, like you said, he got that A.
I'm just really getting the vibe that Randall and Mike might even have bonded over their intelligence (as much as it irks me to say it- and still, we all know that Randall is the next level intellectually). I mean in that screenshot on the other thread, they're both sitting on the front row. It just seems to go with this idea of Mike being like, "well, FINE, me and my smart buddy Randall are going to sit at the front and get the best grades!" sort of thing, and then Mike starts involving Randall in more and more things, stringing him along (the cupcakes? A favour for Mike from Randall- a coerced favour?) making Randall think they were truly friends when in fact Mike just wanted to have someone to boss around a bit in front of Sulley.
Once again, all of the above is me extrapolating to the extreme, but that's just the vibe I'm getting from what (little) we've seen.
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Post by RandallBoggs on Feb 11, 2013 20:53:16 GMT -5
Yeah....A...not sure if it was an "A-", but I'll look again.
*folds arms* Hmm...Randall and Wazowski having a relationship was a thought to me but...it was such a curve ball I didn't think too much of it.
Now....lets see...Wazowski and Sullivan seem to get that bunk bed room when they go to Slugma...the room Wazowski and Randall are in in that screenshot is the one when they're at the freshman house (we see THAT in the first meeting)
SO...here's the important bit, if Wazowski doesn't get back into the Scareing program at the end (which I doubt if he broke in to THAT DOOR), then we'll be seeing Randall in the BEGINNING.
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I'm more inclined to believe that the purple guy, leader of ROR, is an antagonist (I say AN because Sullivan seems to be one as well). We see this in the trailer when he's shown, and also at 1:50
At this brief moment, I think he is standing in the corner there while Sullivan is looking off. I think in this scene, Sullivan is confronting the purple guy about something. (Perhaps it involves the scene being shown, of Wazowski activating a live door. Maybe this ROR guy coaxed Wazowski into breaking in to prove if he's a scarer, and Sullivan sees that he was conned in)
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Will have to put my observations in a nice package when I can but for now...
1:57
That...looks....like Monsters Inc. there they're running from. The building formation, the small bit of the logo...
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Post by mintygreen on Feb 13, 2013 13:10:41 GMT -5
It's hard to say if Mike and Randall are actually friends but they certainly get along BETTER than they do in MI. That's for sure. In MI there is no way they would sit next to each other unless there were no other empty seats available.
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Post by RandallBoggs on Feb 13, 2013 18:31:50 GMT -5
Wazowski may not consider Randall a friend, but it's definitely said, at least at the start, he likes Randall's company better than Sullivan.
And that's a good note, that there are MANY unoccupied chairs about, yet the two are seated together.
Another thing to notice is that Randall's sitting in the middle of his seat, while Wazowski is more on the left, as in he's closer to Randall. What this could mean is that the two are indeed studying together, or that Randall is tutoring him on something (which would explain his annoyance that Sullivan ruined things)
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Post by mintygreen on Feb 13, 2013 23:33:05 GMT -5
Wazowski may not consider Randall a friend, but it's definitely said, at least at the start, he likes Randall's company better than Sullivan. And that's a good note, that there are MANY unoccupied chairs about, yet the two are seated together. Another thing to notice is that Randall's sitting in the middle of his seat, while Wazowski is more on the left, as in he's closer to Randall. What this could mean is that the two are indeed studying together, or that Randall is tutoring him on something (which would explain his annoyance that Sullivan ruined things) Considering how Sulley is acting in this movie from what we've seen.....I'd rather have pretty much anyone's company over his.  Sulley would probably be a pain to share a room with. Ugh. |
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Post by pitbulllady on Feb 14, 2013 6:13:27 GMT -5
Wazowski may not consider Randall a friend, but it's definitely said, at least at the start, he likes Randall's company better than Sullivan. And that's a good note, that there are MANY unoccupied chairs about, yet the two are seated together. Another thing to notice is that Randall's sitting in the middle of his seat, while Wazowski is more on the left, as in he's closer to Randall. What this could mean is that the two are indeed studying together, or that Randall is tutoring him on something (which would explain his annoyance that Sullivan ruined things) Considering how Sulley is acting in this movie from what we've seen.....I'd rather have pretty much anyone's company over his. Sulley would probably be a pain to share a room with. Ugh. Everything I've seen from Sulley in MU so far backs up what I've always thought about him-he's a slacker at heart, who has to have someone to really push him if he's gonna actually DO anything. Given a choice between working for a living and sitting in a bass boat in the middle of a lake somewhere, Sulley's gonna opt out for the latter. He's got family connections and feels privileged, feels that he's entitled to success simply because of whom he knows. He's a classic jock who doesn't think too kindly about intellectuals. That "drive-by" book drop says, "I'm don't need these things; I don't need this class; I'm already perfect; screw y'all little dorky nerds!" Now, I've often gone on about how Mike, in MI, is riding Sulley's coattails to success, BUT I also now get the impression that MIKE MADE Sulley into that successful Scarer, so it's mutual. Neither would have ever been anything without the other, whereas Randall had to accomplish everything he did alone, without help. pitbulllady |
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Post by RandallBoggs on Feb 14, 2013 19:42:50 GMT -5
Could it be Wazowski's failure as a Scarer is what coaxes Sullivan to brighten up? I mean it seems that we may not see development for him until late in the film.
As per my Pixar Planet sig, it seems Randall may have actually helped Wazowski in studying (though I would imagine Randall would see it as flailing given Wazowski's...non-scary traits)...and IF Sullivan was sitting on the other side of Randall before getting up (I'd have to see), he might have been tutoring Sullivan as well. Certainly puts the "I'm not with you dorks"-esque display both on Wazowski AND Randall.
Also, not 100% sure, but looked like Randall was squinting at whatever he was reading. Maybe he does need glasses and tries not to "pull them out"...
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Post by pitbulllady on Feb 14, 2013 20:25:26 GMT -5
Could it be Wazowski's failure as a Scarer is what coaxes Sullivan to brighten up? I mean it seems that we may not see development for him until late in the film. As per my Pixar Planet sig, it seems Randall may have actually helped Wazowski in studying (though I would imagine Randall would see it as flailing given Wazowski's...non-scary traits)...and IF Sullivan was sitting on the other side of Randall before getting up (I'd have to see), he might have been tutoring Sullivan as well. Certainly puts the "I'm not with you dorks"-esque display both on Wazowski AND Randall. Also, not 100% sure, but looked like Randall was squinting at whatever he was reading. Maybe he does need glasses and tries not to "pull them out"... It looked to me more like Randall was just showing his displeasure at Sulley acting like a d***. Randall's got that "I Do Not Approve" facial expression, but his hand gestures say, "WTF? How do I deal with THIS?" I DO get the impression, though, that Randall's eyesight is less than perfect. I can remember back when Avis The Crow was still around, and she specifically brought up how Randall apparently had a "lazy eye", and that does seem evident in that book-dump scene, which probably explains the need for glasses. I also would bet that Randall tries to go without them as much as he can get by, because he gets picked on when he wears them and they cramp his scaring style(kinda hard to "blend" while wearing those things). He's probably trying to lose his "nerd" image and be accepted by the popular crowd, and those glasses aren't going to help any at all with that. pitbulllady |
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Post by RandallBoggs on Feb 14, 2013 20:31:30 GMT -5
Well he seemed to be squinting BEFORE he looked at the dropping boxes. It, jock/geek sense, seems to say that "glasses define you as a geek". Maybe Randall doesn't wear them because he'd come off that way, though he might need them. Strange though that he SEEMS to be wearing them when he's wearing that ROR jacket on the skateboard toy as well as the bobble head...maybe when he "shows his geek" when in the ROR fraternity they decide to out-him.
But yeah, his hands definitely show the same uncertainty we see from the poster. In this moment he probably DOES think Sullivan is a jerk, but can only think and barely express it for fear of a reprisal (as I'd imagine at this point, Sullivan could beat him down).
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Post by mintygreen on Feb 14, 2013 21:05:47 GMT -5
Well he seemed to be squinting BEFORE he looked at the dropping boxes. It, jock/geek sense, seems to say that "glasses define you as a geek". Maybe Randall doesn't wear them because he'd come off that way, though he might need them. Strange though that he SEEMS to be wearing them when he's wearing that ROR jacket on the skateboard toy as well as the bobble head...maybe when he "shows his geek" when in the ROR fraternity they decide to out-him. But yeah, his hands definitely show the same uncertainty we see from the poster. In this moment he probably DOES think Sullivan is a jerk, but can only think and barely express it for fear of a reprisal (as I'd imagine at this point, Sullivan could beat him down). Yeah probably, since Sulley is obviously way bigger than Randall and therefore probably quite a bit stronger. In MI I think I've seen some people say that it's low how Randall goes invisible when fighting with Sulley in that scene close to the end of the movie.....but honestly, how is it low to do that when the other guy is way bigger than you? It only makes it fair actually. |
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Post by RandallBoggs on Feb 14, 2013 21:20:26 GMT -5
Randall probably doesn't pick up his fighting skills (and blending ability) till later on.
That's an argument that's been done before....and it's true. Only when the "villain" does something to "equal the odds" (equal, not tip mind you) is it "low". Randall was tired from building a machine, probably malnourished, going up against a buffy-gym-going-in-shape-well-rested behemoth. Randall punched, kicked, knocked Sullivan with a canister and the guy didn't go down (well he did, but not out). One good hangmaker to the face and Randall was out cold.
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Sulley would probably be a pain to share a room with. Ugh.