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Post by pitbulllady on Jan 24, 2013 20:45:32 GMT -5
We've touched on this before, as to why Pixar appears to be planning to depict Randall as a "good guy" in MU, in sharp contrast to how most people perceived him in MI. I can only think of two possible reasons: they will feature "flash backs" in MU, cutting from past to present and vice versa, in which Randall is at least not so much a "villain" in the present, OR they will give him his own mini-movie at some point, perhaps a special feature on the inevitable DVD release, in which we see that he's not so bad. I've read before that IF Pixar ever showed the now-adult Randall as a good guy, or at least different from how he behaved in the original, some fans would have trouble believing that "transformation", so perhaps showing that Randall didn't start out "mean" or "evil" or any of those negative things would help pave the way for showing what WE know to be the REAL Randall later on. If people see that he was not always "bad", it will probably be easier for them to "buy" into him being one of the "good guys" again later on. Did that make any sense?
pitbulllady
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Post by RandallBoggs on Jan 24, 2013 20:58:34 GMT -5
I've actually written a bit in the Fanfiction section, if anybodys even seen it, about a probable beginning to MU.... In short, flashbacking mainly depends on how much there would be prequel-wise to what is current. By that, if they SHOW this past glimpse in the film, is there enough there to MAKE a full-on film? My answer is...yes, I believe there is. So doubt there will be multiple flashbacks. If there is, it would start at near the beginning (there may be small cuts to the "present", but it sets up the next flashbacks through a device (mine was a box of Sullivan's old stuff from the University) so not much happens at the present).
As for a mini-movie...unfortunately doubt that. THOUGH...Mater DID sorta take Cars 2....and heck he basically got his own series (for...some...reason). So there IS a possibility of that, if Pixar can see his popularity (as...Mater...had?), then there's always the option of that.
I don't think Pixar will leave things hanging without a sequel. The prequel can set things up for a resolution later on, making it much deeper and personal (and supposedly, we'll be seeing that sequel sooner than we had for the prequel).
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Post by pitbulllady on Jan 24, 2013 21:12:45 GMT -5
I've actually written a bit in the Fanfiction section, if anybodys even seen it, about a probable beginning to MU.... In short, flashbacking mainly depends on how much there would be prequel-wise to what is current. By that, if they SHOW this past glimpse in the film, is there enough there to MAKE a full-on film? My answer is...yes, I believe there is. So doubt there will be multiple flashbacks. If there is, it would start at near the beginning (there may be small cuts to the "present", but it sets up the next flashbacks through a device (mine was a box of Sullivan's old stuff from the University) so not much happens at the present). As for a mini-movie...unfortunately doubt that. THOUGH...Mater DID sorta take Cars 2....and heck he basically got his own series (for...some...reason). So there IS a possibility of that, if Pixar can see his popularity (as...Mater...had?), then there's always the option of that. I don't think Pixar will leave things hanging without a sequel. The prequel can set things up for a resolution later on, making it much deeper and personal (and supposedly, we'll be seeing that sequel sooner than we had for the prequel). I HOPE Pixar won't leave things hanging, not resolving what happened with Randall. That would be especially bad if Sullivan in any way, shape or form had something to do with Randall's attitude taking a negative turn, especially if Randall was actually the victim of any really nasty pranks or bullying from Sullivan at some point. From what I've seen of the prequel, Sulley was a real jerk-ass jockster in his college days, and I recently read something to the effect that he was from a long family line of Scarers, basically having everything handed to him on a proverbial silver platter, and that smug "I don't give a ****" smirk on his face in the trailers and the posters says a lot right there about HIS behavior and attitude, as much as Randall's shy, insecure little smile. If Randall's turn in the wrong direction was due in at least some part to how he was treated by Sulley in college, and Pixar just allows things to end with the way they did in the original, with Sulley tossing Randall into the Human World to be beaten brutally and possibly killed, think about the message THAT is going to be sending! It would basically mean that Sulley didn't like the results of how HE treated someone else(badly), so he simply decided to get rid of the someone else when they finally lashed out. Randall is at least as popular as Mater, if not more so, just with an older fan base, so hopefully Pixar will take that into consideration when they decide what to put on that Collectors Edition DVD. Like I said, a "mini movie", on the order of "Button of Doom" that is available with the Collector's DVD and Blu-Ray with the "Megamind" movie, starring Randall, would be nice. pitbulllady
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Post by RandallBoggs on Jan 24, 2013 21:21:35 GMT -5
They shouldn't. It would be...irresponsible. And besides...well, Randall we know...but it's not exactly a happy ending for everybody either. I've made ideas, written some things on my own proposed sequel and...things aren't all cheery for everyone else either. We ALL know Sullivan does NOT have the training to be CEO of a large company...so there is NO way he can fit going from blue-to-white collar in less than a year (wasn't it?). So, he's dealing with that. Now, Wazowski and Celia would have to step up their relationship, so does this mean Wazowski moving out? And how does that go for lonely Sullivan? As said, I've thought on this...and Pixar, if you want to do it right, come talk to me hehehehe.
I have to imagine Sullivan had a hand in things, even if he hadn't WANTED to OR if he changed his mind at the last minute and TRIED to stop something from happening. I've noted before about college hazing and the stuff for fraternities and how wanting to be accepted into a group would probably have been one of Randall's vunerabilities at that age. Needless to say, people would take advantage of that.
I imagine Sullivan's a single child who came from a good-to-do family. Father a scarer, mother probably a stay-at-home mom. His over-attitude as he is older is mainly due to......well...in my way it's due to his father who has a...."particular" job position within the scream industry...
As for the DVD RELEASE of the film....there is a possibility of Randall getting some extras in. I mean depends on how much he gets...BUT...seeing as he would likely have a more positive-looking role than he did previously, he'd get a lot more.
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Post by pitbulllady on Jan 25, 2013 6:14:40 GMT -5
They shouldn't. It would be...irresponsible. And besides...well, Randall we know...but it's not exactly a happy ending for everybody either. I've made ideas, written some things on my own proposed sequel and...things aren't all cheery for everyone else either. We ALL know Sullivan does NOT have the training to be CEO of a large company...so there is NO way he can fit going from blue-to-white collar in less than a year (wasn't it?). So, he's dealing with that. Now, Wazowski and Celia would have to step up their relationship, so does this mean Wazowski moving out? And how does that go for lonely Sullivan? As said, I've thought on this...and Pixar, if you want to do it right, come talk to me hehehehe. I have to imagine Sullivan had a hand in things, even if he hadn't WANTED to OR if he changed his mind at the last minute and TRIED to stop something from happening. I've noted before about college hazing and the stuff for fraternities and how wanting to be accepted into a group would probably have been one of Randall's vunerabilities at that age. Needless to say, people would take advantage of that. I imagine Sullivan's a single child who came from a good-to-do family. Father a scarer, mother probably a stay-at-home mom. His over-attitude as he is older is mainly due to......well...in my way it's due to his father who has a...."particular" job position within the scream industry... As for the DVD RELEASE of the film....there is a possibility of Randall getting some extras in. I mean depends on how much he gets...BUT...seeing as he would likely have a more positive-looking role than he did previously, he'd get a lot more. Didn't Mike mention Sulley having a sister in the original, though? Still, sister or not, if he came from one of those families who put sports over EVERYTHING, the jock son is going to be the star, regardless of how many siblings there are. I know many families like that. pitbulllady
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Post by RandallBoggs on Jan 25, 2013 19:30:22 GMT -5
Well the phone call Wazowski got about the commercial was from Sullivan's mom... There was Sullivan's excuse for Boo toward Waternoose but that was "my cousin's sister's daughter" for the "bring an obscure relative to work day" scheme, but that itself may have just been a lie within a lie.
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Post by pitbulllady on Jan 25, 2013 20:38:06 GMT -5
Well the phone call Wazowski got about the commercial was from Sullivan's mom... There was Sullivan's excuse for Boo toward Waternoose but that was "my cousin's sister's daughter" for the "bring an obscure relative to work day" scheme, but that itself may have just been a lie within a lie. I was trying to recall if the phone call was from Sulley's mom or sister, though I thought at some point Wazowski did mention a sister. I know that the "cousin's sister's daughter" thing was Mike's creation and Sulley just kinda went along with it. If anyone had taken time to think, they'd have realized that Sulley's cousin's sister would have also been his cousin, so it was rather pointless to mention that other cousin in the first place, but then, this IS Wazowski-Speak, after all! pitbulllady
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Post by RandallBoggs on Jan 25, 2013 20:43:48 GMT -5
Maybe Wazowski said it on par with something about his looks... I looked at a script...no other mention...I don't think there was, maybe there was something in other media...all I can recall on par is a mention from Celia about her mother's opinion on men.
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