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Post by lizardgirl on Oct 9, 2012 8:05:50 GMT -5
I know it's been absolutely ages since I've posted on here, but the new MU website (here if you haven't seen it- monstersuniversity.com/edu/) has been released and it's pretty amazing. (Let me know if there's already a thread on this- I'll move this post into the relevant place.) Anyway, perhaps it's because I'm a current university student going into my last year of my undergrad. degree, but I spent a LOT of time looking through that site and getting rather excited at the prospect of Monsters University. I still think the storyline will be lacking, but at least Pixar seems to have paid plenty of attention to detail and have been dedicated to fleshing out the monster world. Concerning Randall specifically, something on the site caught my attention. This might just be the wishful thinking of a Randall-fan, but does anyone else think that the incidents recorded on the Campus Safety Blotter have a bit of a Randall tang to them? monstersuniversity.com/edu/safety.htmlThis one really caught my eye: Reported theft from Monstrosities faculty dining kitchen. Reported one (1) sandwich and one (1) half-drank iced coffee stolen "even though I had my name written on it," said victim. I don't know why Randall would go around stealing people's sandwiches and coffee, but the mere mention of coffee made me think that Randall had to be behind it (and yes, I'm aware that the whole coffee thing is not cannon, but you never know, haha!) The stolen microwave as well made me just think of Randall tinkering away at the thing in his room for whatever reason... I'm sure I'm just making stuff up but still, it's pretty cool stuff. I guess it's finally hitting home that when MU is released, there's going to be Randall! More Randall! Because he's in the film omfg. |
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Post by pitbulllady on Oct 9, 2012 17:46:47 GMT -5
Randall does not strike me as a thief, at all. I mean, he flipped out when wrongly accused of cheating, so the guy DOES have a sense of morality, however strained it might have been by his situation. Also, I can't see Randall liking iced coffee at all...that is pretty much associated with the Bohemian coffee shop set in the US...you know, the people who were formerly known as "hippies" or "beatniks" in past generations, who recite God-awful poetry while their audience sips iced coffees and lattes...you know, like most US college professors? Not Randall's type of folks, believe me. Now, given how SULLEY appears in the trailers, HE might be up to such mischief just for mischief's sake, but without any more information on how Randall will be portrayed, it's just not enough to go on with him. Maybe those things were pranks and he's in on them(metal foil+microwave makes cool college prank) I'm still highly skeptical, though, that he'll be shown as anything other than someone who was evil from the instant that he was conceived, and if that does appear to be the case with MU, I can think of a whole lot of other things on which to spend my hard-earned money. Given how popular Randall is, with a whole lot of people who disagree with the notion that he's just totally evil, always was evil and will always be evil, and given that Pixar must surely know this by now, if they go that route, it will be nothing less than a deliberate slap in the face to those of us who fall within that category. I cannot think of any reason to continue to support them, financially or otherwise, if that's the case. I'm still holding out that tiny little flicker of hope that I'm wrong, but I've seen nothing to make that flicker burn into a brighter spark, let alone a flame. Just how DOES someone put their name on a sandwich and a half-finished cup of iced coffee, anyway? Given it was faculty, I'd put my money on the theft being from another faculty. Believe me, teachers steal food from each other all the time; I can't begin to tell how many times I've brought food to work and left it in the faculty 'fridge, only to find it had mysteriously disappeared when lunchtime arrived and I went to get my meal, back when we had more than 15 minutes to eat, and actually had a way to heat up food(microwave got removed from cafeteria for fear of students injuring themselves). OK, I did check out the site, though, and I agree, it's funny and realistic as heck! Brings back memories...most of those listings on the safety blotter are really pranks, and to be honest, I did some pretty similar things myself back in the day. It's just college life. What I DID find, though, that is probably a Randall reference, is in the campus store here: monstersuniversity.com/edu/store.html , where you can actually buy real stuff. There is a MU hoodie and a tee-shirt with FOUR sleeves, and the t-shirt is actually sold out already! Those have GOT to be a Randall reference, especially since they are actual item fans can purchase. pitbulllady |
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Post by RandallBoggs on Oct 9, 2012 18:28:33 GMT -5
Actually, and I'll edit my post in a moment, maybe that theft report was actually FROM Randall he was the victim, not the perp heh heh heh.
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Welcome around LG heh heh.
Ahh a new officialist site...a researchers bread and butter. Time for me to do what I do best...I'll get back to you all when my initial research is complete. I shall research each page as best I can.
TAH...looked at the first page, and what did I tell ya Pixararians. Football (or Mon-equivalent). I knew Sullivan would be into that.
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I'm guessing it's a bag...maybe in a dorm...lounge or...something. I dunno 0_0
Well given the many tentacle monsters it's not out of the question it's for others.....but given the choice I'd say, yeah a Randall referrence.
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Post by pitbulllady on Oct 9, 2012 20:08:17 GMT -5
Actually, and I'll edit my post in a moment, maybe that theft report was actually FROM Randall he was the victim, not the perp heh heh heh. ======== Welcome around LG heh heh. Ahh a new officialist site...a researchers bread and butter. Time for me to do what I do best...I'll get back to you all when my initial research is complete. I shall research each page as best I can. TAH...looked at the first page, and what did I tell ya Pixararians. Football (or Mon-equivalent). I knew Sullivan would be into that. --- I'm guessing it's a bag...maybe in a dorm...lounge or...something. I dunno 0_0 Well given the many tentacle monsters it's not out of the question it's for others.....but given the choice I'd say, yeah a Randall referrence. When I read the section on "Sports" I immediately thought, "yeah, football...Sullivan's gonna be all OVER that". Noticed that few other real, serious sports were offered, like basketball or baseball. LaCrosse? I mean, really? One other thing that stood out: emails. This movie is supposed to have taken place several years(long enough for Sulley to acquire that "spare tire")prior to the original, when everyone was in college, supposedly, and the original was in 2001, when the internet and emails were only just starting to really become widespread in most parts of the US in the HUMAN World(I didn't get a computer until 1997 and many people here where I live STILL can't get internet), so I'm guessing the guys were in college sometimes around the '80's, early '90's at the latest, so it would have been very unusual at that time for anyone to have email. I mean, the personal computer was a rarity here in this world at that time. Looks like the Monster World is a lot more advanced than we are, in more ways than just inter-dimensional travel. pitbulllady |
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Post by RandallBoggs on Oct 9, 2012 20:16:44 GMT -5
I guess it way back...when I predicted Sullivan was a jock in his college/high school days, playing football equivalent, as well as a jerk. Low and behold...I was spot on.
Well it's been stated this takes place 10 years prior to film so the start of the 90's if my math is correct is when this happens.
As for computers...
Take somebody like Albert Einstein. Genius is theory and practice. Now...imagine him with four arms and with the ability to break the common death-age of a human being (Waternoose is remarked to be over 100 himself and still fit enough to chase down a behemoth...and apparently swing an axe at him). that's probably why Monsters take a concept and can get ahead on it, they just have physical capabilities that humans lack.
(Oh, I looked at Clubs and got a chuckle at something that would be awesome to see)
(Another thing about computers...maybe this site is about MU as it stands NOW...not back in the 90s. Maybe a lot of their policies are like they were in the 90s, but maybe the E-mail thing is a sign that this is how MU is now and not then. Probably why we don't see Sullivan/Wazowski/Randall's names about.)
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Post by lizardgirl on Oct 10, 2012 14:55:02 GMT -5
Randall does not strike me as a thief, at all. I mean, he flipped out when wrongly accused of cheating, so the guy DOES have a sense of morality, however strained it might have been by his situation. Cheating on something as important as the Scare Record or being Top Scarer is one thing- nicking a bit of iced coffee is hardly the same thing, especially in Randall's mind, considering how much he respected and almost worshipped the idea of breaking the Scare Record. And like you said, you do things in college that you wouldn't do in later life. I hardly think stealing some coffee would put a question mark over his morality either, haha. As you said yourself later on, they're the sort of things that you'd do at college, and I'm certainly not going to question your morality! It's just that all of the incidences on that page seem a little...random. Like, why include that information in the first place? I understand the MU website is detailed, but the stuff on that page seems to go a step further. Plus I don't know if this is an American thing, but I've never seen a page on a university website which actually outlines incidents or things like that. (To be fair, it's probably a good idea!) Also, I can't see Randall liking iced coffee at all...that is pretty much associated with the Bohemian coffee shop set in the US...you know, the people who were formerly known as "hippies" or "beatniks" in past generations, who recite God-awful poetry while their audience sips iced coffees and lattes...you know, like most US college professors? Wow, really? I was not aware of that association whatsoever- must be a cultural thing. Here, iced coffee is associated with...Well, with hipsters to a certain extent I guess, people who wear glasses which don't actually have any glass in them, and especially tight jeans and checked shirts. Basically people who drink Starbucks. More broadly, students and young people in general tend to be the iced coffee drinkers before becoming diehard coffee fans (I know that's what's happened to myself and many of my friends in our time at university!) those things were pranks and he's in on them(metal foil+microwave makes cool college prank) I'm still highly skeptical, though, that he'll be shown as anything other than someone who was evil from the instant that he was conceived, and if that does appear to be the case with MU, I can think of a whole lot of other things on which to spend my hard-earned money. Given how popular Randall is, with a whole lot of people who disagree with the notion that he's just totally evil, always was evil and will always be evil, and given that Pixar must surely know this by now, if they go that route, it will be nothing less than a deliberate slap in the face to those of us who fall within that category. I cannot think of any reason to continue to support them, financially or otherwise, if that's the case. I'm still holding out that tiny little flicker of hope that I'm wrong, but I've seen nothing to make that flicker burn into a brighter spark, let alone a flame. This is total speculation, of course, but I don't think they're really going to do 'evil' in this film. They'll make Randall out to be a bit of a douchebag, sure, what English people would fondly call a 'git', but not out-and-out evil. I think this film's much more about having fun as opposed to being a tale of morality and right and wrong and all that jazz. Randall might even pull some pranks, but instead of it coming across as being endearing in the way that Sulley does it, they'll try and make Randall's pranks go too far or that sort of thing. Once again, this is just me speculating, so I could be completely wrong (and I probably will be!) But I enjoy a bit of speculation- especially when I'm procrastinating from doing the readings I'm supposed to be doing... Just how DOES someone put their name on a sandwich and a half-finished cup of iced coffee, anyway? Given it was faculty, I'd put my money on the theft being from another faculty. Believe me, teachers steal food from each other all the time; I can't begin to tell how many times I've brought food to work and left it in the faculty 'fridge, only to find it had mysteriously disappeared when lunchtime arrived and I went to get my meal, back when we had more than 15 minutes to eat, and actually had a way to heat up food(microwave got removed from cafeteria for fear of students injuring themselves). That sounds VERY likely, to be fair! I know the lecturers here have a bit of a thing about their mugs being stolen by other lecturers... OK, I did check out the site, though, and I agree, it's funny and realistic as heck! Brings back memories...most of those listings on the safety blotter are really pranks, and to be honest, I did some pretty similar things myself back in the day. It's just college life. What I DID find, though, that is probably a Randall reference, is in the campus store here: monstersuniversity.com/edu/store.html , where you can actually buy real stuff. There is a MU hoodie and a tee-shirt with FOUR sleeves, and the t-shirt is actually sold out already! Those have GOT to be a Randall reference, especially since they are actual item fans can purchase. pitbulllady Funnily enough, I'm not sure that's a Randall reference as such- more just a general in-joke about the store being for Monsters rather than humans (though of course we can buy some of the stuff there). The four-armed stuff won't ever be sold in reality, hence why the T-shirt is apparently 'sold out' and the hoodie is 'coming soon', just to make it all seem more convincing. I still want a thermos, though. |
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Post by RandallBoggs on Oct 10, 2012 18:11:59 GMT -5
As I thought earlier, this MU site may be based on as it is today. And Randall's certainly not back there now heh heh. So I think now that it's just a comical thing.
It's a sort of flushing out sort of thing, adding random details to make something more well rounded. It's like Goodies in collectors editions of games. You don't necessarily need it, but makes whatever it is more appealing and interesting.
I'm usually good at theorizing these things ( right on the money with Sullivan ), but there are several ways they can go with Randall in this. They shouldn't have a need to do anything evil in this film...I mean this is 10 years ago...not like this is the moment whatever tension between the three came up has to be there. I mean sure, Randall can hold his grudges, but he's not about to let it go on for a decade.
Besides, if he is aiming to be a Scarer in this, we already know he becomes one, vastily talented, and very efficent. he gets what he wanted in the end. I mean does a "bad guy" get what they DO want in the end? No, not really. So lets think of that.
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Post by Theophilus Hatta on Oct 29, 2012 19:41:59 GMT -5
What a cool site!
Pretty sure those incidents will be referring to events in the plot. Slap fight? Sounds like Mikey and Sulley to me =D
Sounds more like Mike. Victim could be Randall though, for the coffee angle. It's pretty common practice to write the name of the person who ordered it on the drink. It's supposed to a a friendly personal touch or help with getting the right order. Coffee shops get backed up really fast and drinks come flying out.
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Post by mintygreen on Oct 30, 2012 2:32:30 GMT -5
Actually, and I'll edit my post in a moment, maybe that theft report was actually FROM Randall he was the victim, not the perp heh heh heh. That's what I was thinking. It was more likely Randall's coffee and then someone else took it. |
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Post by pitbulllady on Oct 30, 2012 10:02:03 GMT -5
Actually, and I'll edit my post in a moment, maybe that theft report was actually FROM Randall he was the victim, not the perp heh heh heh. That's what I was thinking. It was more likely Randall's coffee and then someone else took it. Read the report carefully. It says that the individual whose coffee was stolen was a faculty member, and Randall would not have been on the faculty staff. Pitbulllady |
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Post by mintygreen on Oct 31, 2012 22:51:56 GMT -5
That's what I was thinking. It was more likely Randall's coffee and then someone else took it. Read the report carefully. It says that the individual whose coffee was stolen was a faculty member, and Randall would not have been on the faculty staff. Pitbulllady True. Sorry I didn't read the whole thing initially or read all the posts in this thread since when I came on here last time I didn't have a lot of time to go through everything. Anyway, my sister was both a student and a staff member at some schools she went to.....she was an assistant teacher at one of the schools she went to although she was also a student there herself and she also had a job at one of her other schools which didn't involve teaching at all but she did a job on the premises. So you never know for sure but you are right that it's unlikely that it was Randall who was stolen from. |
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