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Post by pitbulllady on Apr 10, 2009 13:26:08 GMT -5
m3ditate.deviantart.com/art/Disney-Land-02-118542229And all the more reason to hate Mike and Sulley myself. They really do despise Randall in Japan, don't they? You'd think, with that country's tradition of dragons and such, that they'd be more forgiving, but no. I'm glad I won't be visiting that country, seriously. pitbulllady
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Post by GambleLover on Apr 10, 2009 13:58:48 GMT -5
Mike and Sulley,Mike and Sulley,always Mike and Sulley. Blah,sometimes i believe that they forget Ran
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Post by pitbulllady on Apr 10, 2009 15:14:48 GMT -5
Mike and Sulley,Mike and Sulley,always Mike and Sulley. Blah,sometimes i believe that they forget Ran They haven't forgotten Randall; THAT would be preferable to what they ARE doing, which is to do violence against him at every opportunity. I take it that you didn't notice the front of the steam roller, did you? pitbulllady
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Post by RandallBoggs on Apr 10, 2009 18:52:52 GMT -5
I noticed it once I enlarged the image and was dang thankful that was ALL I was seeing... *looks up* I get flashbacks to Judge Doom getting steamrolled...and HE indeed WAS a killer, psychopath too... *shakes head* This is just an insult...*looks up* Then again, lets remember this IS Disney...and their treatment of reptiles compared to the orientals are less than fair (Anybody see American Dragon? SUCH a stereo type to reach out to stereo types that it's just shameful for the real dragons)
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Post by GambleLover on Apr 11, 2009 3:58:10 GMT -5
Mike and Sulley,Mike and Sulley,always Mike and Sulley. Blah,sometimes i believe that they forget Ran They haven't forgotten Randall; THAT would be preferable to what they ARE doing, which is to do violence against him at every opportunity. I take it that you didn't notice the front of the steam roller, did you? pitbulllady OMG,no comments.And I believed that Japan is peaceful country
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Post by lizardgirl on Apr 11, 2009 16:44:09 GMT -5
Well, Mike and Sulley are, in effect, murderers, aren't they? Though crushing Randall to death is perhaps a tad unnecessary. But in the eyes of whoever designed that thing, it's probably 'funny' and meant to be a 'joke'. Hm.
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Post by pitbulllady on Apr 11, 2009 18:24:48 GMT -5
Well, Mike and Sulley are, in effect, murderers, aren't they? Though crushing Randall to death is perhaps a tad unnecessary. But in the eyes of whoever designed that thing, it's probably 'funny' and meant to be a 'joke'. Hm. Keep in mind that it's at Disney Tokyo, according to DinoGirl, that in their "Monsters, Inc." ride, Sulley "accidentally(yeah, right)knocks Randall into the trash compacter/shredder, thus killing him. I don't find it funny at all, actually, and it really just gives me real reason to despise Mike and Sulley. I would have liked to think that there was some shred of good within them, but if THIS garbage is canon, they're a vile a couple of murderous vigilantes that ever participated in a lynching. pitbulllady
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Post by RandallBoggs on Apr 11, 2009 19:34:50 GMT -5
This garbage ain't canon. I got the real man himself and I am not going to be telling him about this travesty 0_- *looks up* Maybe it's clever way that some in Pixar has taken note of the two's actions and is demonstrating that they really are coniving murders. *shrugs* Though they're doing it the wrong way really...
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Post by DinoGirl on Apr 14, 2009 14:26:23 GMT -5
Well, Mike and Sulley are, in effect, murderers, aren't they? Though crushing Randall to death is perhaps a tad unnecessary. But in the eyes of whoever designed that thing, it's probably 'funny' and meant to be a 'joke'. Hm. Keep in mind that it's at Disney Tokyo, according to DinoGirl, that in their "Monsters, Inc." ride, Sulley "accidentally(yeah, right)knocks Randall into the trash compacter/shredder, thus killing him. I don't find it funny at all, actually, and it really just gives me real reason to despise Mike and Sulley. I would have liked to think that there was some shred of good within them, but if THIS garbage is canon, they're a vile a couple of murderous vigilantes that ever participated in a lynching. pitbulllady I usually call things accidental when you just suddenly open doors and things like that, but there is a possibility that Sulley did know where Randall actually was during the time he was searching for Boo. I find it horrible how he was turned into a garbage cube, and like you pointed out, if this would have been 'real real', Randall would have been outright killed. That story on FanFiction about the murders on the scare floor (Blood On The Scare Floor, I think it was called), had Claws stuck in the trash compactor and well, he came to a very messy end. I am always on the look out for Randall in stores and typically anywhere. He is quite hard to find . It seems as though he is just pushed aside and the 'goody goody' characters have all the fame and glory. Randall, in my eyes, is an icon, yet he certainly doesn't have the recognition as one. Sure, you'd say the name Randall, and some people would probably recognise which particular Randall you're speaking about, but, as by that photo, he hardly has a glimpse in anything like the Main Street parade's in Disneyland. Why is it I hate it when great characters are cast aside into the darkness...
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Post by RandallBoggs on Apr 14, 2009 19:01:33 GMT -5
It's a sorta throwback to the shredder comment about Steve Buscemi in...a previous film...can't recall the name exactly...
Putting much pushing Steve aside too now that I think about it 0_0
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Post by DinoGirl on Apr 15, 2009 10:17:53 GMT -5
It's a sorta throwback to the shredder comment about Steve Buscemi in...a previous film...can't recall the name exactly... Putting much pushing Steve aside too now that I think about it 0_0 *sighs* Unfortunatly, that is true. Steve is of course connected to Randall, which in turn brings HIM away from the public's view. Mind you, I don't know whether actors get more recognition from doing voices on animation or on the live action films.
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Post by RandallBoggs on Apr 15, 2009 19:06:29 GMT -5
That's an interesting saying...I wonder that...
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Post by lizardgirl on Apr 16, 2009 7:01:47 GMT -5
It's a sorta throwback to the shredder comment about Steve Buscemi in...a previous film...can't recall the name exactly... Putting much pushing Steve aside too now that I think about it 0_0 Fargo. Absolutely love that scene- it's so funny! But that's sort of Coen brothers humour, it's not meant to be, 'omg this character that we've been following through the film has just got killed!', it's more, 'haha, how ironic that this character was killed by his partner in a really gory way'. And I don't think Steve really gets pushed aside in that film (if that's what you were referring to)- his part is one of the most iconic within it. Anyway, I think this ride is meant to be more 'slapstick' than the film. I agree that in the movie, it's obvious that characters feel pain and are considered to be 'real' in terms of their own world and the limits within that world, but for whatever reason, Tokyo Disney decided to go for a more comical approach. On the plus side, in the bits where Randall isn't getting crushed, they've done really well in terms of creating those moving models and everything to look like him, and when he speaks in Japanese, the voice used rather suits him. It's just a shame that he had to bear the brunt of being the joke again.
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Post by pitbulllady on Apr 16, 2009 11:19:20 GMT -5
It's a sorta throwback to the shredder comment about Steve Buscemi in...a previous film...can't recall the name exactly... Putting much pushing Steve aside too now that I think about it 0_0 Fargo. Absolutely love that scene- it's so funny! But that's sort of Coen brothers humour, it's not meant to be, 'omg this character that we've been following through the film has just got killed!', it's more, 'haha, how ironic that this character was killed by his partner in a really gory way'. And I don't think Steve really gets pushed aside in that film (if that's what you were referring to)- his part is one of the most iconic within it. Anyway, I think this ride is meant to be more 'slapstick' than the film. I agree that in the movie, it's obvious that characters feel pain and are considered to be 'real' in terms of their own world and the limits within that world, but for whatever reason, Tokyo Disney decided to go for a more comical approach. On the plus side, in the bits where Randall isn't getting crushed, they've done really well in terms of creating those moving models and everything to look like him, and when he speaks in Japanese, the voice used rather suits him. It's just a shame that he had to bear the brunt of being the joke again. Well, that's it-it's like Disney is trying to turn Randall into the "Kenny" of the M.I. franchise-to have him "die" as many times as possible, in various gruesome ways, for the sake of a joke. Not only is it bothersome to those of us who actually really LIKE the guy and would love to see something positive happen with him, for once, but it cheapens Monsters, Inc. as a whole, putting it on the same level with a sarcastic, and while funny at times, often very mean-spirited animated series that was never intended to have any "heart", quite unlike Pixar's movies. IF this is something that's going to be limited to Tokyo Disney, perhaps indicating that this appeals more to a Japanese audience, I can deal with it. IF "OMG, they killed Randall...AGAIN" becomes the general theme of the up-coming Florida attraction, it will be more problematic. One of the reasons that the Pixar movies are so popular isn't the spectacular animation, but the characters that people can relate to; it's easy to forget that they aren't(for the most part) even human characters, because we as movie goers get caught up in their personalities and their fallibilities, and that includes the fact that they are portrayed as mortal. They can, like us, be killed or hurt, so when they're in danger, we can empathize. You don't get that level of empathy/sympathy with say, a Looney Tunes character, because you KNOW that nothing is actually going to happen to them; they do not even seem to feel pain! You see Wile E. Coyote fall over a thousand-foot cliff, or see a bomb explode in Daffy Duck's face, and at the worse, you know Wile E. will just have to crawl out of that big coyote-shaped hole in the ground where he landed, or Daffy's face will be covered in soot and he might have to turn his bill around from the back of his face, but they won't be hurt. And, while Looney Tunes are classics, they aren't PIXAR, not by a long shot! pitbulllady
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Post by RandallBoggs on Apr 16, 2009 18:55:16 GMT -5
I agree. This is probably what those at Pixar Planet doesn't understand. It's not just Ran being hurt here.
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