tmazanec1
Randall's Head Servant (300-799)
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Post by tmazanec1 on Apr 2, 2009 17:16:21 GMT -5
In a scene Randall grabs Mikee out of bed, thinking he is Boo. No protective gloves or tongs or anything. And him and Waternoose were planning to kidnap kids by the hundreds and bring them into the Monster World. Did they know the Secret?
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Post by RandallBoggs on Apr 2, 2009 18:47:40 GMT -5
Being CEO, Waternoose was "in the bed" of the secret of humans being toxic was phoney (the reason he was alarmed in his first scene with Boo was the drastic worry that Sullivan and Wazowski KNEW about his plan and was aiming for a sort of blackmail). And that info was passed on to Randall, hence why he doesn't get all skittish around Boo. (Heck, he held her right beside him in the door vault. And even if she was in a suit, the CDA get all freaky over a sock 0_0)
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Post by pitbulllady on Apr 2, 2009 19:49:43 GMT -5
Randall actually didn't physically grab ahold of Mike; he used the box to more or less trap him, and did so very quickly-too quickly for Mike to react OR for Randall to realize that this was no kid!
I'm positive that Waternoose knew, and had known for some time, that human kids weren't toxic. His reaction when he first saw that Boo was human seemed very fake, as though he felt a need to put on an act for Sulley, until he realized that Sulley had already figured out that human children weren't dangerous, and then he dropped the act. I'm sure he'd shared that bit of knowledge with Randall as well, but I'm not so sure that Randall bought it 100%. I think that there was still some doubt in the back of his mind. After all, if you've been taught all your life that something is dangerous, and this is widely believed to be true throughout your entire culture, indeed, your whole world, it's very hard to let go of that belief, even when you're told it's untrue. I do think that with Boo in the suit, Randall felt a bit more comfortable holding her, since he knew that he was not actually in physical contact with HER, per se, but when she jumped on him, that doubt as to just how harmless children were came back, and then some! It's like me the first time I got bitten by a snake, when I was like, seven or eight, and I got nipped by a Corn Snake I'd just caught. All my life I'd had it drilled into my head that ALL snakes were deadly, and the only safe snake was a long-dead one. I'd read, of course, that this wasn't true at all, and I'd correctly identified this one as a Corn Snake, which was supposed to be harmless, but then, what I'd read also said that this kind of snake didn't bite, but bite it did! It shook me up pretty bad-not enough to make me stop catching snakes, but it certainly caused me to question whether or not my parents and grandparents(and all of their parents and grandparents before them)were right, and the books were wrong! That's probably what Randall experienced-and he was under a lot more stress at that time than I was at the age of seven-when Boo started attacking HIM. Whatever Waternoose had told him sort of got shoved under a mental carpet, so to speak, at that moment, and all those old, deeply-ingrained cultural beliefs came to the forefront.
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Post by RandallBoggs on Apr 2, 2009 19:55:47 GMT -5
Like bringing a hammer on a round ball ^0^
Well having your hair pulled out and being banged on the head with a shovel all while trying to maintain your balance...well ^_^;
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Post by pitbulllady on Apr 2, 2009 20:18:19 GMT -5
Like bringing a hammer on a round ball ^0^ Well having your hair pulled out and being banged on the head with a shovel all while trying to maintain your balance...well ^_^; It was a little plastic baseball bat, actually, not a shovel, not at that time, anyway. Randall had recovered quickly from being literally knocked unconcious by Sulley, so getting whacked with a plastic bat by a toddler couldn't have hurt worse than that did! The shock value of what Boo did, coupled with her being human, did more to overpower him that the actual physical pain involved. pitbulllady |
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Post by RandallBoggs on Apr 2, 2009 20:20:36 GMT -5
I did mean bat, sorry. I've been reading that Connections story at the behest of that one topic, and it's affecting me  Well shock value yes, but doubt it was because of toxic fear |
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tmazanec1
Randall's Head Servant (300-799)
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Post by tmazanec1 on Apr 4, 2009 5:02:53 GMT -5
Sigh
Pitbulllady, I know now. Memo to self...never rely on your memory of a movie, even your favorite movie, if you haven't seen it for a couple years. Watched it again yesterday and caught that error. Only reason I did not go online to apologize was that it was Friday and I do not use the computer on Friday (also giving it up during Holy Week).
Did Fungus know?
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Post by pitbulllady on Apr 4, 2009 11:03:39 GMT -5
Sigh Pitbulllady, I know now. Memo to self...never rely on your memory of a movie, even your favorite movie, if you haven't seen it for a couple years. Watched it again yesterday and caught that error. Only reason I did not go online to apologize was that it was Friday and I do not use the computer on Friday (also giving it up during Holy Week). Did Fungus know? There's nothing to indicate one way or the other if Fungus knew that human children were't toxic, since he is never seen actually interacting with one. Fungus WAS awfully elated when Randall announces, "I got the kid", though, so if Fungus DID know human children weren't toxic, he still felt little sympathy towards them, certainly no more than Randall did, which should make Fungus every bit as disliked as Randall is by the people who insist he was "evil" because he intended to harm Boo! Oh, but wait...Fungus isn't covered in scales, is he? pitbulllady |
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Post by RandallBoggs on Apr 4, 2009 18:45:42 GMT -5
Don't feel too bad. I haven't watched the film in...oh pfft...going on five years. Though each bit is pratically imprinted on me...
Yeah, despite all naysayers, Ran had no intent to harm the kid at all. As for Fungus...*looks up* Being the technical guy I'm unsure if actually cares about others.....I mean look how he (clevery) treats Ran.
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