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Post by lizardgirl on Dec 28, 2005 9:53:04 GMT -5
Well, I was watching the movie the other day, and I noticed something else. When, near the beginning, we see Roz for the first time, she's in her office reading the paper. We get quite a good close-up in the paper, and I noticed an advert for monsters who are thin and want to put on some weight, as though being thin is actually a really bad thing. Well, Randall's pretty thin, I think, and so perhaps this was another thing that people could pick on him about?
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Post by pitbulllady on Dec 28, 2005 11:04:09 GMT -5
Yeah, I'd posted that long ago on the old board. There are also several ads in that same paper for growing HAIR, so clearly furry monsters(like you-know-who)are held in higher esteem than those which are non-furry, and of course, we've already talked about how Randall is the only scaly monster in the entire movie. THAT particular point was even noticed by some of my former students at another school who were in "Special Education" classes, so you'd think more people throughout the 'net would have picked up on it, too. Randall isn't fat or even that large(not when compared to some of his co-workers, anyway), and he's scaly, not furry, so automatically he's got two strikes against him.
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Post by yoruhoshi on Dec 28, 2005 12:34:07 GMT -5
That's horrible. I can't stand when people discriminate against others for no real reason. It really ticks me off. And Randall's already got people who hate him. I can't stand it.
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Post by Veg on Dec 28, 2005 23:26:31 GMT -5
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Post by yoruhoshi on Dec 29, 2005 9:01:38 GMT -5
It has already made me scream several times. I told my sister that she must die for being a Randall-hater, but I'm partially using that as an exuse because I hate her anyway and I'll end up killing her one of these days unless her "friends" do that first. My sister is so nit-picky and hates just about everything, it's no wonder all her friends turn against her. She hates Randall, she hates Boo, she hates Sulley, she hates Mike. Now I'm not standing up for the zit or the furball, but she isn't allowed to hate Boo!! Boo is....BOO! She's too cute to hate. I don't see why my sister likes watching the movie anyway if all that comes out of her mouth is a bunch of crap insulting every bit of the movie and the people who made it.
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Post by lizardgirl on Dec 30, 2005 8:53:53 GMT -5
I was talking to someone the other day, and they were refusing to believe that Sulley had let Boo into the Monster World in the first place! I therefore asked them how long ago it was when they had last seen the movie. They shrugged and said, 'but everyone knows about Randall letting in the child.'
Yeah, everyone who didn't actually pay ATTENTION to the film, that is.
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Post by yoruhoshi on Jan 1, 2006 15:40:13 GMT -5
Yes, those ignorant idiots. They deserve to burn...
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Post by tailmister on Jan 3, 2006 1:46:09 GMT -5
Hello all you happy people. ;D
With the ads as to adding pounds and such, I thought that it was a nice relation to our world. As for it being there, I didn't neccessarly think it was a form of discrimination, rather than a reflection of most things that reflect our world, like for those who just don't feel good about themselves, and those ads would say that losing weight, going on a risky diet, (or in this case, gaining weight) would make them feel good or good looking, or popular, or something like that.
I'm just rambling on aren't I?
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Post by pitbulllady on Jan 3, 2006 12:01:59 GMT -5
Actually, Tailmister, there IS a very definate discrimination against overweight people here in the US, at least. It's much more difficult to get a job is you're noticeably overweight, and employer surveys have shown that many of them consider overweight people to be automatically unhealthy, meaning that they will have to take more sick days, and unclean, making them unpleasant to work alongsides, and untrustworthy! If two equally qualified people apply for the same job, and one is overweight and the other isn't, guess which one will likely get the job. In the Monster World, things are apparently just the opposite, with the general consensus that thin monsters are less valued that big heavy ones, but I think that in their case, the REAL discrimination is against SCALY monsters, regardless of their size or body type, though those which resemble known reptile species are more likely to be discriminated against, than say, one that looks like a bear, but with scales instead of fur. That ancient association of "scaly" with "evil" refuses to just give up and die.
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Post by Beboots on Jan 4, 2006 0:20:25 GMT -5
I do agree with both Pitbulllady and Tailmister, on seperate points. I do believe that people who claim to not discriminate do, in fact, discriminate, if only on a subliminal level (like in Pitbulllady's example of the overweight and non-overweight people both applying for a job). I know for a fact that someone who is regarded as "handsome" or "pretty" is much more well-liked, automatically, than someone who is less-so. It's a sad fact that's ingrained in every human being. I myself feel slightly uncomfortable around the average male my age or slightly older, as it's been in my experience that many of them are jerks. I know that many I encounter randomly on the street may be perfectly caring and nice people, but if I see them hanging around in the aisles at my work, I feel incredibly uncomfortable, and watch to see if they steal anything, but I completely ignore girls and nerdy boys of the same age. -_-; One could claim, right there, that I am prejudiced, and they'd be right. However, I do agree with Tailmister on their (erm - are you a guy or a girl? sorry back to the point...) view that that magazine Roz was reading was just a monsterized version of an average human tabloid magazine, and wasn't really intended to be making a point about monster society on a consious level. Erm, yes. I spend much more time answering that question that I meant to. Hope I made sense.
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Post by tailmister on Jan 4, 2006 2:42:19 GMT -5
Kinda interesting how we work huh?
... and by the way Beboots, I'm a guy.
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Post by RandallBoggs on Jan 5, 2006 16:50:15 GMT -5
"Personally....well...at least then...I didn't really care about my weight really....as demanding as Scaring is...it didn't really have much discrimination in weight-wise really....I mean...heck...Ted wasn't discriminated because he was taller then all of us...so why the heck would I care?"
I didn't really care to look in Roz's office too much....
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Post by lizardgirl on Jan 6, 2006 11:46:34 GMT -5
Yeah, forms of subconsious discrimination are happening all the time, and there's not much we can do about it.
As for Randall's weight...Well, I think that there might've been a few times in his life when people have used his weight against him just as something to pick at, but I guess there's the upside of, when he's scaring, (aside from the fact that he can blend) it might make it less obvious to the child in their room of Randall's pressence- he's so light-footed, they wouldn't hear a thing.
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Post by RandallBoggs on Jan 6, 2006 15:38:11 GMT -5
Well remember Cool.... Randall can crawl on walls. If he was too big he wouldn't be able to do such a thing.
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Post by lizardgirl on Jan 7, 2006 10:29:43 GMT -5
Yeah, that's true too.
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