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Post by lizardgirl on Jun 29, 2006 14:45:00 GMT -5
Because when Boo escaped, it was obvious that it was to do with MI as that is the only place she could've been able to use to get into the Monster World, and that meant that there would be a massive search around MI, which Randall didn't want at all for fear of the CDA discovering the SE and the plans that Waternoose had. Also, if Waternoose found out that Boo was the child that Randall was meant to use the SE on, then Waternoose would almost definitely punish Randall.
Randall didn't want to find Boo because he cared about her; it was just that he wanted everything to be kept quiet.
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Post by RandallBoggs on Jun 29, 2006 14:49:22 GMT -5
Wrong. There are several plants. Monsters Inc. is just them ost popular one. Well whether Boo was chosen or not is up for discussion.
Well I doubt that.
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Post by lizardgirl on Jun 29, 2006 15:06:00 GMT -5
Well, why would Randall want the CDA to find out about the SE? He would be severely punished for it, which is the one thing he had been trying to avoid in the first place.
At the time Randall was trying to find Boo, he hadn't had a chance to get to know her at all, and probably had the opinion, like all other monsters did, that human children were stupid. Why would he care about her at all?
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Post by RandallBoggs on Jun 29, 2006 18:01:38 GMT -5
Well they wouldn't find out about the extractor because there are several Scream Producing plants in Monstropolis and the kid could have come from anywhere.
Well. Particularly, we find evidence that he has some care and thinks differently. Mainly from the extractor part and the door chase.
But none the less about Boo....
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Post by pitbulllady on Jun 29, 2006 22:24:02 GMT -5
I don't think that you could call Randall an anti-hero, based simply on what is seen in the movie, anymore than you can call him a real villain. He does keep Boo from falling, and he DID say that he was going to "revolutionize the Scaring Industry", which meant he felt that whatever wrongs he was doing would be justified in the end by helping to solve the "energy shortage" and therefore would benefit his city and country, BUT, Randall never actually ACCOMPLISHED those things. Even if he HAD successfully tested the machine, Waternoose would have NEVER allowed anyone to know that Randall had in fact developed the machine that solved the energy crisis. The Monster World, for the most part, would have never known that Randall Boggs had ever existed; he would have been the Nicola Tesla of his kind. Now, this is not say that Randall does not have some heroic POTENTIAL, but that is where the sequel needs to step in.
pitbulllady
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Post by pitbulllady on Jun 29, 2006 22:37:27 GMT -5
Well they wouldn't find out about the extractor because there are several Scream Producing plants in Monstropolis and the kid could have come from anywhere. Well. Particularly, we find evidence that he has some care and thinks differently. Mainly from the extractor part and the door chase. But none the less about Boo.... Sean, WHERE do you get the idea that there were several scream-producing plants in Monstropolis? I know that in OUR world, in the United States, at least, only ONE power plant can serve a particular region; it is ILLEGAL for more than one to exist in the same city and serve the same customer base! This is not to say that there weren't others in OTHER cities; surely there were, but there is no evidence whatsoever in the movie or in any of the books that suggests that there were other plants in that one city. The CDA already KNEW that the child which had been spotted in Harryhausens had come out of a bag with the M.I. factory logo on it, and that's why they were IN THAT FACTORY-they KNEW that SOMEBODY from that factory had brought the child into that restaurant, and given that this factory had doors that led to the Human World, it would not take an Einstein to figure out that an employee of M.I.(and NO OTHER factory, even if they did exist)brought her in from the Human World, and took her to the restaurant, and therefore they wanted to interview all the employees and find out who had done it. At that time, the CDA did NOT know that anyone had brought her BACK to the factory. LGBB is right-the ONLY reason that Randall was up all night looking for "the kid" was so the CDA would not tear the place up trying to find her themselves, and stumble across the Scream Extractor, or find out information from HER, if they found her. Randall of course had no way of knowing how well(or not)she could communicate, or by which means the CDA could find out how she'd gotten in, but the more they hung around, the greater the likelihood of them finding out about HIS project. No doubt also he wanted to find her before Waternoose found out that she was the kid he'd been ordered to procure to test the Scream Extractor on, since this would have surely meant severe, possibly fatal, consequences for Randall. It had nothing at that time to do with any feelings for Boo or obligation to her. Randall was trying desparately to save his own neck, literally and figuratively. pitbulllady
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Post by RandallBoggs on Jun 30, 2006 13:39:05 GMT -5
First one: Well I guess I picked it due to some Kingdom Hearts issues concerning Riku...
Second one: Well....AT FIRST the child wasn't known, and the bag was later discovered AFTER the initial shock. OH! Which makes me wonder. Remember the green orb? We can confirm that it did NOT destroy Harry Hausens, or the bag would have been destroyed.
Well yeah I suppose. But then again, he would be contridicted to his own feelings and experiences at the time.
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Post by lizardgirl on Jun 30, 2006 14:02:26 GMT -5
I think it's pretty understandable that Randall felt like saving himself at the time, especially after all the work he had put into the SE.
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Post by RandallBoggs on Jun 30, 2006 14:04:45 GMT -5
Yeah I suppose. I guess I feel that Randall, being a minority, had a different outlook.
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Post by nauticusvergil on Jun 30, 2006 14:30:52 GMT -5
I don't normally.....
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Post by RandallBoggs on Jun 30, 2006 14:31:44 GMT -5
Hmm?
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Post by pitbulllady on Jun 30, 2006 14:32:38 GMT -5
First one: Well I guess I picked it due to some Kingdom Hearts issues concerning Riku... Second one: Well....AT FIRST the child wasn't known, and the bag was later discovered AFTER the initial shock. OH! Which makes me wonder. Remember the green orb? We can confirm that it did NOT destroy Harry Hausens, or the bag would have been destroyed. Well yeah I suppose. But then again, he would be contridicted to his own feelings and experiences at the time. The photo of the M.I. bag was taken at the restaurant, probably by the monster with the camera who was photographing the birthday celebration, BEFORE the CDA showed up. BOO was also in the photo, remember, and we know that Sulley and Mike crammed her into one of those rice cartons and high-tailed it out with her. IF the photo had been taken AFTER the CDA showed up and put up that green dome over the restaurant, Boo would NOT have been in the picture, or else she would have been dead as a doornail! And what does Riku, or whoever, have to do with Randall and Boo, or whether or not Randall is or isn't an anti-hero? Riku is an original character in "Kingdom Hearts"(which I have never played and otherwise know little about), right? NOT in "Monsters, Inc.", right? As logic-driven as I am, I am failing to see a connection between his(or is it a "her"?)and Randall at this point. pitbulllady
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Post by RandallBoggs on Jun 30, 2006 14:35:46 GMT -5
Photo...of the bag?
Well the photo sorta took a picture of the photographer and....wait a sec. Where IS that paper?
Well. Riku is a he, and he is an Anti-Hero, and the reason I started to consider Randall one. Riku is a character torn between the tempting of darkness.
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Post by nauticusvergil on Jun 30, 2006 14:39:37 GMT -5
Never.....mind.
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Post by RandallBoggs on Jun 30, 2006 14:41:12 GMT -5
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