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Post by mistica0christina on Dec 29, 2009 18:23:50 GMT -5
I guess I needed a slight break from here so while I said that I was leaving...well, changed my mind so guess what? THE GOTH IS BACK! ;D
Okay, so maybe what I said I went just a little far...sorry about that, ever since the ordeal on Mezco's forums with the Ebay/Evilbay copy cat, I guess I kind of went a little far with what I said...you are right that SgtYayap wasn't claiming the art as his own although I still wouldn't quite agree with the fact that he did have it posted here without asking it to be okay...I know that to some people that may seem weird since it's a sig and all but I have seen other stuff by this person, he does these sigs and to me, that's kind of his art form, I just think that he would be hurt to see his sig being displayed in a way that it wasn't intended, that's all. I was thinking in an artist's perspective.
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Post by mintygreen on May 28, 2012 13:57:29 GMT -5
We've all seen the early concept drawing of Randall, which sort of evolved from this rather insane-looking, goofy character(something VERY Craig McCracken-ish, lol)to what we see onscreen now. I have read several accounts from various Pixar animators and story-board artists of Randall's "evolution", and indeed, the developmental changes that the entire cast and script went through, some of which is presented on the DVD, a lot of it which isn't. Initially, there WAS no Bad Guy; the three monsters-Sulley, Mike AND Randall-were all best buds throughout many of the initial script treatments. In the first script, they weren't even real monsters in the exact same sense of the movie, they were IMAGINARY FRIENDS of a guy who lived a very boring life, and they help him to regain his sense of adventure and creativity. Even after it was decided that there would be this parallel universe in which the dominant life-form was a race of sentient, sapient monsters who were terrified of humans, there was no real Bad Guy, not a monster, anyway. In one treatment, there was a very nasty little kid(think Syd, only a girl)who was into torturing small animals and such, who got into the Monster World and had to be dealt with, but that was quickly dropped, and thank goodness, too. That kid later became a little boy about six or so, whom the monsters THOUGHT was dangerous, and our three intrepid heroes set about to "save" the Monster World from this "threat", in the process learning that human children are not toxic, and more importantly, learning how to put aside their own differences and work cooperatively. From what I've read, Randall started out as an Irish character, with a thick brogue, but became all-American at some point in the re-writes. He always apparently supposed to be, in the words of Eduardo from the "Foster's Home..." pilot, "tightly-wound, emotionally", prone to loud and angry outbursts fueled by too much caffeine and a work-a-holic mentality, but no one took his outbursts seriously. The other characters just shrugged it off, as the characters in "The Honyemooners" ignored Ralph's tirades, knowing it was all just a bunch of hot air. One of the animators who actually worked on Randall's design, a guy with a Latino-sounding name, had a blog that is now gone, and he actually went into detail as to how difficult it was to animate Randall due to him having all those limbs AND a long tail, since there was no real animal that they could model his gait from, and described how he wound up observing big cats at the LA Zoo for inspiration on how Randall would move, rather than the large lizards or crocodilians. He also stated that right up until the very last script re-write, even after full animation had begun, there was no villain. Michael Eisner, then-CEO of Disney(who at that time owned all of Pixar's franchises and controlled the distribution of all their movies for a set fee), insisted that the movie needed to have a villain, a real threat, rather than a perceived threat in the form of a human child, and that decision probably also had a lot to do with Boo evolving from an older, more independent child into a very young toddler, to make her more vulnerable to that threat and strengthen the parental-protective bond between her and Sulley. I don't know who, specifically, decided to make Randall the primary "Bad Guy", but I'd guess since he already was supposed to have this irrascible temper, AND he was reptilian in appearance, he was automatically the first choice, to keep from having to create, design and animate an entirely new character this late in the game. I'm not sure how or when they decided to include Waternoose in on the whole Bad Guy side, and it's pure conjecture on my part that it was a subliminal "jab" at Michael Eisner's meddling about with Pixar's creativity, since Waternoose was also a CEO. While Randall might not have always been depicted as a 100% sweet, lovable guy, he wasn't always treated as a "villain", either, and I don't know if Pixar intentionally wanted anyone to see that in their final version, or not. I honestly don't know. I DO know that there were scenes left out which probably would have made him more sympathetic, like the one that Sean has posted here, in which Randall's expression after being reamed by his boss and told that "James P. Sullivan was TWICE the Scarer YOU'LL EVER BE" is clearly one of HURT, not anger, so it appears that Pixar later did try to make him seem as mean, cruel, and heartless as possible to avoid garnering any sympathy for him from the audience. pitbulllady Considering that he was never even really meant to be the 'bad guy', I really hope this makes them more likely to do him justice in Monster's University.
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