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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2006 13:32:24 GMT -5
Yep....there's no such thing as a TRUE villian. I prefer the term antagonist myself.
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Post by talk2spooky on Sept 10, 2006 13:59:55 GMT -5
Well it is true that there ARE some villains who need our sympathy. Like Bushroot and Megavolt. Those arn't the kinds I'm refering to though Hey, as long as no ones giving sympathy to the ..antagonist that would kill you as soon as look at you. (Ex. The Major from Hellsing, The Hitlers of the world,) Basicaly, if the "true" villain would take advantage of your sympathy or somthing, that's the type that need NO sympathy. I'm not saying your lists consist of the truely evil villains, I'm just lookin' out for ya.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2006 14:01:30 GMT -5
Well true but even people who cross you may not be ENTIRELY bad.
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Post by lizardgirl on Sept 10, 2006 15:19:55 GMT -5
Hmm, I do see what you mean t2s, in the sense that I guess there are 2 kinds of villains- ones that have a reason for being the way they are, and ones that have been created to be purely evil. In real life, the latter are very rare, but in films, they're created because it's easy to hate someone who's made to be hated.
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Post by talk2spooky on Sept 12, 2006 2:59:37 GMT -5
1 out of every 25 in America if I'm not mistaken. Forgive this odd, psycho-babble outburst, but I just read The Sociopath Next Door, and it gave me a whole new perspective on humanity in general. I was always a little pessimistic about people in general, not just the "bad" ones. Givin that fact, I was always surprised by the fact that almost every one of my favorite fictional characters are villains, antagonists, or anti-heros. It's so much eaiser to feel sympathy for the "bad people" in the fictional world, because the less than steller things they've done in life are eaiser to analyze, eaisier to relate to, esspecially to pessimistic folks like myself. I personally love to see a REASON behind their behavior and I love to see their redeeming qualities because there's a part of me that will always wish that all villains could justfully garner sympathy, and even lighten up. But that doesn't make me any less disturbed when I come across a fangirl/fanboy who hopelessly swoons over a "baddie" that's CLEARLY (that's the key word) fits the description of the sociopath, who, unfortunately are irredemable. They like it that way, and love to use sympathetic folks like us as their marionettes, and that fills me with a terrible pity everytime I see someone devote themselves (and I mean DEEEeeEEeeEEeVOTETION. Not the kind that fits us at all, trust me) to a person that would use, then dispose of said person, weather it's a simple oppsession with a fictional character or in real life. What's really tragic, is that some of the devotees KNOW their being used, and never garner the pride to back off, and move on. I'm NOT accuseing you guys of doing this, and I honestly don't know why this thread compelled me to spill my guts over this issue, but I felt like spilling it, so I appriciate you guys lending an ear ;D
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Post by lizardgirl on Sept 12, 2006 11:39:13 GMT -5
Yeah, you're right- those cases are very sad, and one has to question the judgement of the person who is devoting themselves to something like that.
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Post by talk2spooky on Sept 13, 2006 1:23:58 GMT -5
I call it Harly Quinn syndrome (love her to death by the way ;D)
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Post by Malic on Apr 1, 2008 21:46:22 GMT -5
Wonder why Micheal Myers isn't up here. Or a number of horror movie villain's. Also Randall is technically an Antagonist which now a day's is considered being an evil villain, I guess due to people's laziness.
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Post by lilbandit on Oct 29, 2008 20:38:56 GMT -5
*Lil B is still alive* Wow 0_o I made this thread a long time ago! I guess "villain" should mean in context of the film/show. I mean regardless of what we think of Randall, in the film he was supposed to be the "villain". Or to use the better word, antagonist. I don't think of him as villainous at all, especially in comparison to a classic such as Micheal Myer's haha Anyway, off to lurk again
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Post by GambleLover on Apr 1, 2009 5:52:12 GMT -5
alien moma dracula magneto becket the main thing scaramanga jaws
i will think more of them later.
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Post by DinoGirl on Apr 7, 2009 18:02:26 GMT -5
The Queen Xenemorph? Man she was vicious ;D. How about the Kraken from Dead Mans Chest? I hated it when the beast devoured Jack Sparrow and the Black Pearl, but then it was also kind of emotional when it was found dead on the beach. It was the last of it's kind . I wouldn't say Jaws as a villain. A Great White Shark would normally not behaviour in a fashion like that. A shark attack is about as rare as being struck by lightining. You just need to keep your wits about you and you'll be all right. I wouldn't refer to Michael Myer's as a villain either, but a pyschopath. He has no motives but to kill. He's as unstoppable as Jason Voorhees too.
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Post by GambleLover on Apr 8, 2009 6:05:46 GMT -5
jaws from james bond,you know the guy with steel teeth
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Post by DinoGirl on Apr 8, 2009 10:03:00 GMT -5
jaws from james bond,you know the guy with steel teeth Oh, lol, yes that's it ;D. I thought you meant the Great White shark from Jaws.
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Post by invaderbecky on Jul 23, 2009 13:55:49 GMT -5
Sideshow Bob, Plankton, Captain Hook, Bowler Hat Guy, Zurg, XL, Randall, Go ahead and shoot me, I like him because I love characters portayed as bad guys, I've read everything and beleived he has good inside. I never really did like what happened to him in the end. I tend to like villians I feel empathic for or they can make me laugh.
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Post by DinoGirl on Jul 24, 2009 8:05:40 GMT -5
Anybody ever think of Imhotep from the first two Mummy films? And how stupid is the Carnotaur in Disney's Dinosaur to attack a full herd! ;D
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