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Post by pitbulllady on Feb 24, 2005 19:03:56 GMT -5
YOU know who you are! Animated-News.com just put up some new screen shots from the short film, "Jack-Jack Attack" which will be an extra on the DVD, detailing the harrowing experiences of poor Kari the babysitter(you know, the Mozart-lovin', brace-face airhead friend of Violet's who got snagged into keeping Jack-Jack while his family was away), as Jack-Jack loses his cool(literally)over one of those little baby toys where the tykes have to put blocks through the appropriately-shaped hole. Soon to be followed by the apparently just-as-baffling experiences of the replacement, uhm...professional babysitter...the one with the black-and-white costume and the hairdo that looks like he just gave Sparky a bath, LOL! Check it out...Buddy without his MASK, and the best "WTF" expression I've ever seen! Here 'tis, enjoy...I know *I* did! www.animated-news.com/archives/00003131.html
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Post by RandallBoggs on Feb 24, 2005 19:11:00 GMT -5
Bet the babysitter is sitting in theropy or an asylum right now ^_^
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Post by pitbulllady on Feb 24, 2005 19:29:32 GMT -5
Naw, that chick is just too much of an airhead; she'll get over it. The second babysitter got the worst of the deal, though.
Bet Kari was saying to herself as she quickly got the heck outa there, "SUCKA! Kinda hated to do that to that dude...I mean, he WAS sorta cute!"
Buddy looks like he's having a "James P. Sullivan Moment" in that last pic! I can just hear him goin', "Uhhh....Baby? WHah?! I Mean....huh, uh....uhh..." Too bad the poor boy didn't have a Mike Wazowski to tell him to shut up and do all his lying for him and cover for him when that 250 IQ crashes like the harddrive on my old computer, LOL! "HE can't babysit right now, 'cause we're....Practicing for the new company play! Yeah, THAT's the ticket...company play, it's called "Wait 'till Those F#$&%*@ Supers Get Home, Are THEY Gonna Be In For a Surprise"....yeah, that's it. It's a work in progress-haven't got all the kinks worked out of it just yet...oh, and it's a musical, heh-heh Anyway, gotta go-need to practice...some of us more than OTHERS...see YA!"
pitbulllady
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Post by RandallBoggs on Feb 24, 2005 19:32:42 GMT -5
*Snicker*
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Post by lizardgirl on Feb 25, 2005 11:13:12 GMT -5
Hey, does anyone else here find that Buddy's beginning to grow on them? Coz when I first saw the film, I thought he was pretty cool, but now I think of him as one of my fave characters off the Incredibles. ;D
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Post by RandallBoggs on Feb 25, 2005 11:22:06 GMT -5
Personally....with how energetic Jay Jay is....I'm surprised Syndrom got him asleep. I thought he really wasn't the "type" to be.....well....not neccesarily a father but something like that.
Boy....he sure beat Randall in that department....not by much but...
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Post by pitbulllady on Feb 25, 2005 12:09:00 GMT -5
Hey, does anyone else here find that Buddy's beginning to grow on them? Coz when I first saw the film, I thought he was pretty cool, but now I think of him as one of my fave characters off the Incredibles. ;D That's exactly the case with me! When I saw the movie the first time, I thought he was a cool villain, and had some of the funniest lines and facial expressions I'd ever seen or heard, but I still thought of him as pretty much evil, twisted, cruel, etc., and I felt he really got what he deserved. I was also certain that he'd been killed in that jet engine, so we wouldn't be seeing any more of HIM. BUT...as Sean pointed out on the old board, right after HE saw the movie, Buddy/Syndrome was also sure to be a big hit with the fangirls! That latter statement has turned out to be quite an UNDERstatement, as he does indeed have a large fanbase, with more fansites devoted exclusively to him than to any other character. MY perspective has changed somewhat of him, also. He is VERY different from Randall, in that I still DO see him as a villain, since he planned everything he did and acted totally on his own(at least I TEXTthink TEXT he did-some interesting theories about this floating around, too). He seemed to have no conscience to speak of, but like a child, just acted on impulse and justified everything he did. Randall, on the other hand, definately appeared nervous and unsure of himself, and seemed to KNOW that what he was doing was wrong. There is no doubt that Buddy had a few screws loose, to put it mildly, and probably had since he was a child. I don't blame Bob's rejection for that, though it was awfully harsh. I blame whoever was responsible for Buddy's upbringing and care, since they should have realized something just wasn't right and got help for this kid, before it was too late. I see lots of "Buddy's" slip though the cracks of the system, though, because their parents or guardians refuse to believe that there is anything wrong and won't let anyone else help their kid. In this sense, Buddy is not so much "evil" as he is mentally ill, and it's clear that he really does NOT always understand right from wrong as most people do, since no one has apparently taught him that. I also have to put some blame on Mirage, as much as I like her, since it has become clear that that guy worshipped the ground she walked on, and she COULD have put a stop to his vendetta against Supers IF she really had wanted to. I believe he was just that hung up on HER that he would have eventually given in to her wants over his, and to some extent, I also think he was just a little bit scared of her, too. Then again, if she IS Randall's sister, I can see WHY, LOL! It's just sad that somebody that creative and brilliant would be left to use that amazing mind for such awful things, when he could have done so much GOOD for the world, and been every bit the hero he ever wanted to be. I also am more inclined to believe he's not dead. I thought that being sucked through a jet engine meant automatic ground hamburger, but I've since found out this is NOT the case! I have found out that birds which get sucked into jet engines usually shut the engine down by disrupting air flow BEFORE they hit the turbines-they are killed by IMPACT, but aren't chopped up. I also recently saw a startling film clip on the "National Geographic Channel", and was told about this incident by a member on another board, whose father works for Australia's Quantas Airlines, and who actually WITNESSED this. In the clip, a maintainance guy for the airlines walked too close to a jet(with engines running)that was sitting on the tarmac, and in an instant, got sucked right into one of the engines! He was gone, just like that, no cape involved. The next second, he gets spat out the rear of the engine-his clothes all gone(digitalized blurs covering "key" parts), a few scrapes and bruises, and pretty dazed, but otherwise UNHURT!! And THIS guy didn't have a Supersuit OR gloves with zero-point energy, either! I figure Buddy would have an even better chance of surviving than that guy did, and I really now hope he did. I'd love to see him come back, as a sometimes-help, sometimes-hindrance to the Parrs, a loose cannon, but not a total Baddie. He showed a much more tender side, as Sean pointed out, with Jack-Jack, even more so than Randall showed with Boo when he saved her from falling, so I KNOW that there is good in there somewhere, it's just a matter of finding it. pitbulllady
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Post by RandallBoggs on Feb 25, 2005 12:36:54 GMT -5
Thank you.... Don't forget he's still alive too. Ok....is it me or are you guys begging me to make a crossover? Hey hey.... Remember...."I" was the first believer he was still alive. Well we CAN'T go all on Randall for that. He didn't have a family AT ALL....well...Parents anyway. Even though Buddy's probably ignored him, they were still there. Randall never had a mother or father to help him if he did somehow in his life have a kid. If you all would remember Kevin for a moment. When I first showed you all to him, it showed that Randall CAN be a caring father if he had the chance. Afterall, he had somebody who loved him and he had someone to actually come home to. In Two of A Kind, you can really see the struggle with work and keeping the family Randall now has. ......What? Aren't you guys reading?
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Post by lizardgirl on Feb 25, 2005 12:53:25 GMT -5
Everything you said, Pitbulllady about Syndrome is very true, in my opinion. ;D
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Post by pitbulllady on Feb 25, 2005 12:57:23 GMT -5
I didn't say that Randall COULDN'T be a caring father/guardian, Sean, only that in their respective MOVIES,(excluding fanfics for now-just talkin' movies here)Randall seems to be deliberately "distancing" himself from Boo, probably because she is human, and not a monster child, so he still has this mistrust and fear of HER. Like you said in an earlier post, though, Buddy must have had a real knack for dealing with babies(at least with babies that don't burst into flames or turn into snarling demons)and soothing them enough that they will fall asleep, so that meant he had to be quite comfortable with being around babies, too. That's a fairly rare quality in young men, especially those who aren't yet parents, since most of them are a bit awkward around little kids or babies. Their own immaturity often gets in the way of judgement and parenting skills, and I don't think anyone would argue that Buddy didn't embody immaturity! Still, he must have either had experience caring for a baby at some point, most likely a much-younger sibling while he himself was a child, since I don't think he had one of his own yet(there's no way Mirage has had a kid with THAT figure), or he just has very strong paternal instincts. Like I said, it takes most males a while to really develope those instincts/skills to that point.
Quite honestly, having a kid of his own probably would have been the best thing that could have happened to Buddy, in terms of helping him straighten his head out and get his priorities more in line. I have seen guys that I had considered hopeless basket cases completely change for the better when their first kid was born. My brother in law is living proof of that. Before my niece was born, this guy was the biggest jerk on the planet. He was extremely racist, hating other people with as much passion as Buddy hated Supers. He was angry all the time, and UNLIKE Buddy, he was dumb as a box of rocks. I never would have imagined him being capable of caring for or loving a child, or providing a decent income to support a family. When Sydney arrived, though, he became a different person. He's much easier to get along with, and no longer talks garbage about killing Blacks or Hispanics like he used to. He has a good job, and makes pretty decent money. He still isn't the brightest bulb on the tree, but he can't really help that, LOL! If HE can change, Buddy can change!
And yes, I gave you full credit for recognizing that A)Buddy/Syndrome was going to become a very popular character from that movie, and B)that he could very well have survived being sucked into the jet engine, especially when you take into account his zero-point energy gloves.
pitbulllady
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Post by RandallBoggs on Feb 25, 2005 13:05:07 GMT -5
Well....Randall did know she wasn't toxic.
What I thought was that Randall was distancing himself from her in the beginning because he still had this guilt in himself..... Like he didn't want her seeing him doing what he did, even though he didn't want to. Sorta like a shame "don't look at me....I'm sorry" kind of thing. He knew he scared Boo and that she was scared of him, so he didn't want to go as far as for her to think he wanted to hurt her. Although many of you think that Randall thinks of humans as animals.....I still think he had at least SOME thought in there.
I mean, when you look ahead at when he has her, he seems less contempt to stay away from her. I thought it was kinda fatherly the way he sorta protected her at that time.... Yet again, what she was wearing came into effect.
Probably. And hard to only a select few have that early fatherly quality. Heh heh...I was just reminded of the diaper thing in one of the fanfics...heh heh.....oh...poor Randall....
Thank you ^_^
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Post by pitbulllady on Feb 25, 2005 14:55:55 GMT -5
Yeah, I think that guilt had a LOT to do with how Randall acted towards Boo. He wouldn't even make eye contact with her, but deliberately looked anywhere but her direction while he was carrying her. He doesn't say anything to her at all, though he does hold her closer to him when her weight starts to shift after that leap, as though making some small effort, in his own way, to give comfort. He knows she's afraid of him, though at the time, she seemed more afraid of the jump than of him, having apparently reasoned that between falling hundreds of feet and Randall, Randall was the lesser of two "evils". I guess Randall must have known that IF he had looked directly at her, or said anything to her, she might have started panicking and become difficult to handle safely while clinging to a door hundreds of feet in the air, plus he just didn't know what TO say, given the circumstances. Randall's eyes at that point say more than words possibly can, for those willing to listen.
I don't know if Randall and Mirage ARE related, but they sure do have an awful lot of similarities NOT to be. I have to wonder(especially after those screen shots)if there isn't some distant genetic connection between Buddy and Sulley, too-THEY sorta look alike, you know! Same exaggerated chin, same blue eyes, same propensity for getting even with those who have wronged them, same facial expression when having to explain something complicated to somebody. Wouldn't THAT be funny...if Randall and Mirage DO turn out to be siblings(probably twins), and it does indeed turn out that there had been some marriages of convenience between clan Pine and clan O'Sullivan back in the Old Country-talk about those "six degrees of separation"!
pitbulllady
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Post by RandallBoggs on Feb 25, 2005 18:15:31 GMT -5
That scene is possibly the most imporant scene in the entire movie for Randall. Because it really shows how worried his is and how things are coming at him. I guess Randall was starting to understand something. I don't know what it was. Of course some of it was realizing that everything had to end then and there. But I don't know....
Maybe if everything went differently and Randall had returned her to her door....then maybe he wouldn't have said anything else. I could just see him now starring at the door being shredded, probably thinking "It's best I never seen her again....and.....she doesn't see me...".
Alright people I'll get to a crossover when I can.
Heck....I'll even thrown in that Alternate we were talking about Pitbulllady. If Randall had escaped with the kid and had to go on the run.
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Post by Mirage on Feb 25, 2005 22:46:41 GMT -5
*applauds pitbulllady again* ;D Those screenshots are hilarious. I love the last one. Obviously I'm an Incredibles fan! I can't wait for the DVD release.
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Post by pitbulllady on Feb 26, 2005 11:35:00 GMT -5
You know that the DVD is also going to feature fully-animated interviews with all the stars of the movie-THAT ought to be quite interesting too! Wish they'd done that with "Monsters, Inc.". By the way, have you seen the clips of some of the outtakes, which have been online? WEIRD stuff!
pitbulllady
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