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Post by tailmister on Mar 26, 2005 16:40:59 GMT -5
I just keep thinking about the scream shortage, and what is causing it in the movie.
I'm aware of the 'innocence is shrinking' part, but I'm wondering if Waternoose being involved.
In one dream, I would find out that there would be a subtle device that Waternoose would plant, that would take a part of the energy that would normally go where it's supposed to go, to Waternooses' basment, where he would have a lot of canisters. Then when Monsters Inc., went under, or his S.E. plan failed, he would sell that raw scream to the black market, since scream energy would no doubt be in high demand, he would get stinkin' rich quick.
... o.k, that was beside the point, but I thought that might have some merit. What's your'e comments.
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Post by RandallBoggs on Mar 26, 2005 16:49:23 GMT -5
*Cough*
Oh boy.... Poor monsters....they don't know....
Hasn't anyone realized that the only possibility a city like Monstropolis, having several factories supplying scream, is if ALL the factories were having trouble?
The Scream Shortage was a ploy by ScareCo. to FORCE the public to accept the Scream Extractor...
Oops....did I devoluge classified data? Oh well...
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Post by tailmister on Mar 26, 2005 17:02:19 GMT -5
Geezzz... I thought that things like electric companies was meant as a public service, and meant for the good of the people, not for something like this.
Then again, this comment would probrably just show my innocence.
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Post by RandallBoggs on Mar 26, 2005 17:07:35 GMT -5
Tailmister...
Scareing was a tradition. A way to GET BACK at mankind for their treatment of Mons. Soon, when doors were invented for easier and safer passage..... Then....Screams became an enegy source and a company.
However.....Scare Co.'s boss, elders, and top ranking executives.....still hold DEEPLY to the tradition....
There's allot more here than none of you know.... Oh...would you be surprised....
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Post by tailmister on Mar 26, 2005 17:09:57 GMT -5
Oops... I meant to say 'for the good of monsters', same like our services are for the good of us.
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Post by RandallBoggs on Mar 26, 2005 17:12:08 GMT -5
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Post by pitbulllady on Mar 26, 2005 20:38:09 GMT -5
Geezzz... I thought that things like electric companies was meant as a public service, and meant for the good of the people, not for something like this. Then again, this comment would probrably just show my innocence. Ever heard of "ENRON", Tailmister? If not, then you had to have spent the last, oh, five years living under a rock in the Gobi Desert! Enron, like "Scare Co.," of which the Monsters, Inc. factory was just a part, was a huge power conglomerate that controlled many power companies, especially on the west coast of the USA. Their CEO, among other things, artificially rigged data and the media, creating the notion of a huge power shortage in those areas. "Rolling blackouts" became common, in order to thwart the crisis. Prices-AND the companies stocks-went sky high. NONE of it was real, yet customers ended up paying through the nose for their utilities, many went without power for days to supposedly lighten the load on "failing" power grids, and of course, the CEO and the major stockholders who took his advice(insider trading, anyone?) got filthy rich. They were caught because of some low-down-on-the-totem-pole guy-their version of Randall Boggs-who was being forced to comply with changing the date for his CEO, got caught, and spilled the beans. So, yeah, it would NOT surprise me at all if Waternoose cooked up the whole notion of a "scream shortage" for exactly the same purpose, and it would also give him incentive to want something like the Scream Extractor. That way he would also be able to claim to have invented the means of solving said "Scream shortage", and not only be rich, but be rich AND a hero to millions, leaving this great legacy. And, Sean, I don't know about the Monster World, but here in the US, a power company has a total monopoly on the city it serves. This means that there can NOT be any competing power companies in the same city, therefore ALL electric power in Monstropolis would have been supplied by one company-Monsters, Inc. Customers have no choice in which power company they have their power supplied by. pitbulllady
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Post by RandallBoggs on Mar 26, 2005 23:23:52 GMT -5
*Chuckles*
Poor Monsters.....
Their Governors.....their mayors....perhaps president....have little power compared to ScareCo.'s boss.....
Pitbulllady....
ScareCo.....is similar in the field to Rockerfeller and Carnagie.... They have more power than anyone. Though it may seem like they don't...they do....
Scare Co.'s past leads all the way to the business beginnings of Scareing.... Monsters Inc. was an uprising company....being the most....current famous scare facility....
Scare Co. doesn't care about money....only power.
Think about it.... Why would they want the Scream Exactor? Would they care if it was lethal? No..... The Scream Extractor....was a better way to supply energy....while giving them the satisfaction of seeing little girls and little boys having their screams sucked out of them......
Waternoose was a respected man when he had to be........just like his father....who I know a bit about...and his father's father. They led the company. With wealth.... and the fact that Scare Co., as well as the C.D.A. took care of any....."problems" he may have....The Waternooses were powerful..... Honestly....Waternoose would have been out of jail before he even saw a court room....
*chuckle*
Funny. Poor Scarers. They have no idea what they were put in.... Personally I feel more sorry for the Comedians of Sullivan's.......Scare Co. would definetly not stand for this.....but they bide their time....
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Post by tailmister on Mar 27, 2005 0:31:47 GMT -5
Ever heard of "ENRON", Tailmister? If not, then you had to have spent the last, oh, five years living under a rock in the Gobi Desert! Enron, like "Scare Co.," of which the Monsters, Inc. factory was just a part, was a huge power conglomerate that controlled many power companies, especially on the west coast of the USA. Their CEO, among other things, artificially rigged data and the media, creating the notion of a huge power shortage in those areas. "Rolling blackouts" became common, in order to thwart the crisis. Prices-AND the companies stocks-went sky high. NONE of it was real, yet customers ended up paying through the nose for their utilities, many went without power for days to supposedly lighten the load on "failing" power grids, and of course, the CEO and the major stockholders who took his advice(insider trading, anyone?) got filthy rich. They were caught because of some low-down-on-the-totem-pole guy-their version of Randall Boggs-who was being forced to comply with changing the date for his CEO, got caught, and spilled the beans. So, yeah, it would NOT surprise me at all if Waternoose cooked up the whole notion of a "scream shortage" for exactly the same purpose, and it would also give him incentive to want something like the Scream Extractor. That way he would also be able to claim to have invented the means of solving said "Scream shortage", and not only be rich, but be rich AND a hero to millions, leaving this great legacy. And, Sean, I don't know about the Monster World, but here in the US, a power company has a total monopoly on the city it serves. This means that there can NOT be any competing power companies in the same city, therefore ALL electric power in Monstropolis would have been supplied by one company-Monsters, Inc. Customers have no choice in which power company they have their power supplied by. pitbulllady Wow... is that what really happened? I really don't pay much attention to such things. Does life imitate art, or art imitate life?
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Post by Light Rises on Mar 27, 2005 3:38:25 GMT -5
Ooooohhhh, yeah...Enron. Being a Californian, how could I forget THAT debacle? The one thing I remember very distinctly from that time is just how STUPID everyone felt once we found out that the whole "engery crisis" had been a scam all along; we'd been had -- completely -- and it'd happened right under our noses! There were, however, four cities that escaped the madness, since they (smart folks) generate their OWN power instead of relying on Edison or any of those other power companies once run by Enron. So of course when I went to see M.I. in theaters, I had to laugh at the "rolling blackouts" headline on the newspaper that's shown toward the beginning of the movie (with the irony being that the movie was released soon after the our own "crisis" had sort of dissipated and before Enron's role in the whole thing was revealed). So -- with life seeming to so perfectly imitate art -- I've become pretty much convinced that something truly DOES "stink" about the origins of that "scream shortage," and that it's coming from the direction of a certain former CEO of Monsters, Inc. ~Light Rises
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Post by RandallBoggs on Mar 27, 2005 12:24:02 GMT -5
Heh heh... Waternoose would profit from it....but he isn't the one that make the cake ^_^
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Post by lizardgirl on Mar 29, 2005 6:36:34 GMT -5
Ever heard of "ENRON", Tailmister? If not, then you had to have spent the last, oh, five years living under a rock in the Gobi Desert! pitbulllady I err, haven't heard of Enron. ;D But that really sounds like the same sort of situation, probably on purpose.
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Post by Mirage on Mar 29, 2005 11:12:45 GMT -5
I couldn't help but know about Enron, what with it being all over the news and my mom *always* having the news on.
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Post by Ranger Parsec on Mar 29, 2005 13:26:51 GMT -5
I couldn't help but know about Enron, what with it being all over the news and my mom *always* having the news on. Same here. It's quite ironic that Pixar had all this developed mostly BEFORE the Enron scandal ever came into light. Talk about "life imitating art" or vice versa.
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Post by pitbulllady on Mar 29, 2005 13:30:51 GMT -5
I err, haven't heard of Enron. ;D But that really sounds like the same sort of situation, probably on purpose.[/quote]
Enron was a huge AMERICAN utitlities company, so that's probably why you wouldn't have heard of it, since you wouldn't have been affected by its scandal and dirty doings, as so many in America(especially on the West coast)were. Basically, their CEO was a human version of Henry J. Waternoose, and did all these underhanded, illegal things to fatten his own bank account, largely at the expense of customers and people low down on the corporate totem pole. I don't see how anyone living in the US, though, unless they are still very young, could have avoided at least hearing about it, since it was on the news almost 24/7 for awhile about a year before "Monsters, Inc." came out in theaters. By the time the movie came out, people wondered if Pixar had taken their ideas from the scandal, but actually, they had finished making the movie before anyone heard about the Enron mess, so it was just a strange coincidence.
pitbulllady
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