What about a 'Monsters 3' villainess?

[randallsnape7]

Another entirely different angle we can look at is if the evil entity Randall Boggs must save Monstropolis from is a villainess.

Should this be the case, which actress should be the one to voice the overconfident villainess who will ultimately underestimate Randall and the monsters? Vote for whomever is your favorite and share your thoughts and reasons below!

[randallsnape7]

My vote: Traylor Howard

Reason: 'Monk' fans may know her as Natalie Teeger, Adrian Monk's second assistant, but let's face it: There are times when Traylor (as Natalie) shows her strong and tough side. It would be interesting to see someone with Traylor's personality take on the role of a villain. The end result COULD be a very practical, methodical, and almost icy and mechanical lady at work, which is the kind of personality I think would be needed if a woman was going to seize control over a company like Monsters, Inc.

"Oh, come on... you think MONSTERS scare me? Just you wait. I'll be in charge of Monsters, Incoporated forever. This is MY world, now! Get used to it..."

[pitbulllady]

I am still reluctant to pick any at this point, without knowing what KIND of a character this will be, what role he\she will play aside from villain or antagonist. That individual's social position as well as what position of power he\she occupies will be integral as to which actor or actress is best suited for that particular role, but I am still MUCH preferring that a group or organization be the collective antagonists, rather than focusing on ONE individual. That is really just too "Disney" for me, and there are already too many animated movies with that clear-cut "evil" villain role. That is why Randall himself wound up being labeled a "villain", because someone thought that the movie needed a main bad guy to threaten Mike and Sulley and for them to defeat. I don't think that Pixar or Disney has ever-correct me if I'm wrong on this-had a movie in which an organization, and not just a group following some megalomaniacal leader, either, has been the primary antagonist(s), so that would be rather unique, along with the "heel-face turn" and self-redemption of a "bad guy" from a previous theatrical animated movie of theirs. Pixar is already under the gun with accusations that they are running out of original stuff, and the fact that it's a sequel is going to stir that pot even more, but having the sequel follow that traditional formula of someone having to defeat a main central villain to prove their own worth is really going to push things. Aside from "Lightning McQueen" in Cars, the original, Pixar really has not shown the redemption of a not-so-nice or jerk of a character, and one of the things I really liked about McQueen's "heel-face-turn" in that movie is that he didn't have to beat anyone else or stop a baddy to change, but he DID ultimately have to prove to everyone else that he'd changed for the better. Don't get me wrong-I don't have a problem with Randall having to stop some threat to show that he's not such a bad guy, but the main character he has to defeat is what lies within HIMSELF, what he'd become.

pitbulllady

[randallsnape7]

Answer and undivulged reflection: Yes, an organization would be very interesting and different to see, and I agree that Pixar is running out of ideas. Obviously, if you come up with an organization from the human world, you would HAVE to start asking questions like what is their name, what is their purpose, how do they conduct themselves, and is a structured group of people possible to achieve without striking any controversial or political vibes? I personally don't have as much expertise in organizations. Even then, an organization will have to have a leader or a chairman for all their meetings.

However, if you were thinking of an organization with like three or four representatives that work together as a unit, like in Home Alone 3, with Peter Beaupre, Earl Unger, Burton Jernigan, and Alice Ribbons ALL going up against Alex Pruitt in his Chicago suburban home... then yes, a small-knit group of people working together as a unit to bring down Monstropolis would be a unique scenario - especially for a Pixar film. (Still... Peter Beaupre was the leader of the group, so basically, my idea of a main villain would still work. ONE human being operating ALONE in a world of monsters is admittedly unrealistic and dangerous - even for a self-centered, power-hungry human being wanting total control over the Monster World. Even HE would have to have a plan laid out with other people before taking any action, even if he plans to hog all the benefits and spoils that would come to him if he succeeded [which he WON'T, thanks to our beloved Randall], so if THAT'S what you were getting at, then yes. I wholeheartedly agree.)


Actually, I hadn't PLANNED on doing an actress poll, but pitvipersnake said basically "Are you sure the threat would have to a male villain, or could it be a female villain?", or something... I don't have that word for word, and that prompted me to create one. Not that I was truly thinking about one, but to level out the playing field so I wouldn't be asked that again.

[randallsnape7]

Additional comment: One very positive aspect of a group effort is that more often than not, in the final battle in most movies, the audience first sees all of the secondary workers, who may or may NOT be with their leader, fighting against the heroes, but once all of the secondary workers have fled or have been defeated, or whatever, the main leader (like Peter Beaupre) turns up unexpectedly in the end for the last stand, because the leader is far less inclined to abort his mission than any of his lackeys or team members.

I also like that idea of Randall saving Boo from the CDA. Once we started talking about the CDA, it's clear that the their agents would think NOTHING of kidnapping or destroying Boo, and if Sulley were in a position to see Boo suffering at the hands of the CDA, only to see Randall swinging in to intervene and save Boo's life, yes... that would work wonders in Sulley's eyes.

[randylizard]

I think the whole "good/bad" character division is quite obsolete. If we look at MU, there are no apparent heroes or villains there, only characters and situations. But anyway seeing a female Randall-like character would be nice!