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Post by fairlyoddnewyorker on Jun 16, 2005 13:02:08 GMT -5
Exactly. She doesn't confide in the Heartless, but they listen to the villains, so she really has no fear for them nor any reason to think they're bad. She'll soon realize ...
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Post by RandallBoggs on Jun 16, 2005 13:07:50 GMT -5
So.....she trusts Randall because he looks like a villain? Hmm..... Randall...isn't a villain...hmm...wonder how that would affect Tabella and the other "villains"
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Post by lizardgirl on Jun 16, 2005 15:41:41 GMT -5
Sullivan + Randall = Equal ground, as long as Sullivan admits that Randall is a better scarer.... In some ways, I don't think Randall would care if Sullivan admitted this- I mean, Sullivan didn't do anything to make himself SEEM like a better scarer- that was Waternoose's fault. For all Sullivan knew, he really WAS the better Scarer- he didn't know about the numbers being changed.
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Post by RandallBoggs on Jun 16, 2005 15:43:53 GMT -5
Oh come on. How can SULLIVAN honestly beat his trainer in such a short time. Honestly. Randall KNOWS he is the better scarer. Sullivan thought he was better, but knew Randall was a great scarer, though he didn't show it. Randall wasn't jealous of Sullivan, he KNEW he was better. Sullivan knew Randall was better, but never seemed to admit it.
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Post by fairlyoddnewyorker on Jun 16, 2005 16:23:42 GMT -5
No, not exactly. She just learns to trust Randall. Mainly because Wazowski doesn't get on her good side at first 'cause he keeps referring to her as either a thing or a child. NEVER call her a child- she hates that ;D
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Post by RandallBoggs on Jun 16, 2005 16:30:24 GMT -5
Perfect use! ;D
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Post by pitbulllady on Jun 16, 2005 18:24:06 GMT -5
I don't think that Sulley was bright enough to make any connection between his meteoric rise to the top of the Scare Board and the fact that the CEO was one of his best friends. People DO tend to be blind to such things, but I also don't think that Sulley cared one way or the other WHO was at the top. He would have been just as happy if Randall, or Joe Ranft, or anyone else was at the top, since he would still get his paycheck and still know that he was doing the job he was hired to do. MIKE was the one who was pushing him to be on top, since MIKE was the one who had this "win or else" attitude, along with Randall. If Sulley had ever started to get suspicious that his success might not be entirely honestly earned, I'm sure Mike would have had some argument to present, which no doubt would have included reminding Sulley how dumb he was to think that way, and Sulley would have pushed it to the back of his mind, if not dropped it altogether. He's just not the type to let stuff like that worry him, but more the type who only can think of the "NOW", what's right in front of his face, and isn't going to tax his brain cells trying to figure out the 'WHY'S" and "HOW'S" of things that happen.
pitbulllady
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Post by lizardgirl on Jun 17, 2005 10:22:05 GMT -5
Exactly- everything seems to always go so peachy-dandy for him, so why SHOULD he worry about the future or anything? Randall, on the other hand, has experianced a lot of pain, so of course, he would worry about bad things happening.
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Post by RandallBoggs on Jun 17, 2005 12:18:09 GMT -5
Randall KNEW he was a better scarer. Sullivan also knew this, but the numbers spoke for themselves. So Sullivan didn't much care, like you say. Randall knew Sullivan didn't deserve Top Scarer, so he knew something was up. But Sullivan, being as oblivious as always, didn't see anything wrong.
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Post by lizardgirl on Jun 17, 2005 12:52:41 GMT -5
Okay, you say Sullivan knew that Randall was a better Scarer, yet thought that the numbers were...luck? Because if Sullivan knew that Randall was the better Scarer, even he would have the common sense to know the better the scarer you are, the higher you are on the scoreboard, so therefore the only way it would work with Sullivan not being suspicious of anything at all (and I know he has one of those not caring type personalities, but he would still be suspicious) is if he thought that HE were the better Scarer, and so therefore would have the Top Scarer spot by common sense. This way, his mind would be at peace. Probably, deep inside, he knew that Randall was better, but maybe he thought he was a natural, and so therefore better. Either way, he always thought he was the better scarer, at least until the changing of numbers by Waternoose was revealed, if it was revealed.
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Post by RandallBoggs on Jun 18, 2005 10:44:22 GMT -5
He just thought Randall was being jealous. Simply, Randall gloated a few times (not overly though, just when the moment called for it) and did make others recognize his position. When it was stolen from him, Sullivan just thought that his mentor was being a spoiled sport that he was on Top. Sullivan knew Randall was, in essence, a better scarer. But...for Sullivan....the numbers spoke for themselves...
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Post by lizardgirl on Jun 18, 2005 11:50:03 GMT -5
But the numbers can't speak for themselves at the same time as Sullivan thinking Randall's a better Scarer! Because the numbers signified that SULLIVAN was the better Scarer, and if Sullivan thinks that the numbers speak for themselves, he therefore also thinks that he, Sullivan, is the better Scarer. It can't be both, because if he thought that Randall was the better Scarer, he would QUESTION the numbers- the complete opposite of the numbers speaking for themselves. Either Sullivan trusts the numbers and thinks he's a better Scarer, or Sullivan thinks Randall's the better Scarer and questions the numbers. It can't be both.
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Post by RandallBoggs on Jun 18, 2005 11:54:19 GMT -5
Yes it can. Sullivan knows Randall is a better scarer than he is. He knows Randall would always be the better scarer since he trained Sullivan. But at.....
Lets forget it...
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Post by ScrewyOldDame on Jun 18, 2005 14:14:19 GMT -5
I'm going to agree with Lizard Girl on this one. It can't be both. Sullivan always struck me as incredibly c..o...c.ky. He seemed like he didn't have one doubt in his mind he was "better". In the question of who I think IS scarrier, that's deffinately Ran. PS- Sean, ever heard that 60s song "I Fought the Law"? You're little dragon is keeping the beat precisely!
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Post by RandallBoggs on Jun 18, 2005 14:56:42 GMT -5
Well....either way Sullivan still stole Randall's spot without a care....
HEY! DON'T CALL MY DRAGON FORM LITTLE!!!
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