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Post by Bampot on May 22, 2010 11:55:07 GMT -5
If you don't kick your cats. I read this on Kotaku, a gaming new site, this morning. PETA has been sticking its nose into games too much in the past years. It pretty much sues any game where a dog is your enemy or used in an abusive way. Because it's apparently okay to beat up a hooker, rob a store, and kill a cop, but not shoot a dog. This particular writer posted a couple weeks back that he would stop kicking his cats (obviously joking) if PETA sent him vegan chocolates...and they did. They also sent catnip for his cats. I just thought it was rather hilarious. Click-a-roo. Dear PETA, if you are reading this, please send me candy or else the Chihuahua gets it.
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Post by mentalguru on May 22, 2010 14:18:54 GMT -5
My golden retriever/black lab cross is looking pretty tasty PETA... please send me some chocolates so I don't accidently eat her as a snack.
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Post by pitbulllady on May 22, 2010 14:21:43 GMT -5
I thought that all chocolate, with the exception of milk chocolate, was more or less vegan, anyway. Cocoa comes from a plant, so do the oils that go into making chocolate, and so does sugar(or if you're diabetic, Sucralose, aka Splenda, is also derived from sugar).
I can understand and sypathize with those who want to change the imaging of dogs in video games, since most of the dogs are Pit Bull-type dogs which are usually portrayed as vicious killers, furthering that stereotype. HOWEVER, PETA also insists that all "Pit Bulls" are vicious killing machines and is very adamantly pushing for bans on their ownership, or their continued propogation. Their founder and President, Ingrid "The Butcher of Norfolk" Newkirk claims to have once been bitten by a "Pit Bull" that she was killing via lethal injection, so she has a deep-rooted vendetta against them and believes that they must all die, like NOW. Yeah, this is the same person who voluntarily had all of her reproductive organs and breasts removed to make a statement against humans breeding and multiplying. Making a deal with PETA or HSUS is to me like making a pact with Satan, although I'm almost ashame to say that because it really makes Satan look bad to put him in the same light as PETA and HSUS.
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Post by mistica0christina on May 22, 2010 21:10:28 GMT -5
If you don't kick your cats. I read this on Kotaku, a gaming new site, this morning. PETA has been sticking its nose into games too much in the past years. It pretty much sues any game where a dog is your enemy or used in an abusive way. Because it's apparently okay to beat up a hooker, rob a store, and kill a cop, but not shoot a dog. This particular writer posted a couple weeks back that he would stop kicking his cats (obviously joking) if PETA sent him vegan chocolates...and they did. They also sent catnip for his cats. I just thought it was rather hilarious. Click-a-roo. Dear PETA, if you are reading this, please send me candy or else the Chihuahua gets it. I first saw stuff like this when PETA was doing stuff on World of Warcraft...but what game out there has dogs getting shot? The only games I've ever played with dogs in them have been zombie games like Resident Evil or House of the Dead. Even so, as a gamer I don't get any enjoyment out of shooting animal like creatures in videogames, call me weird but I feel sorry for them actually. Hell, one time I bought a RE zombie figurine for $15.00 and the only reason why I bought it was because of the zombie dog in the box, I could care less about the human zombie. Still...I love candy so here are my demands... 3 bags of gummy worms 2 containers of Godiva chocolates and marshmellow peeps...tons of marshmellow peeps or else both the boys at home pay the price XD
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Post by Bampot on May 23, 2010 0:14:40 GMT -5
I think it might be Gears of War that has real dogs as an enemy at one point. I'm not 100% sure, but it's a game like that. The game that they're talking about in this case is a Myspace and Facebook game calle Mafia Wars. There was something about Pit Bulls that I think you may use as weapons. I don't know, but the game removed after being threatened by PETA. I always feel sad shooting animals in games, but I don't see why it should be any different from shooting people in the long run of things. Normal people are able to distinguish video games from real life. I consider violence in video games no different from violence in movies. I think PETA doesn't really care, but just wants to make a scene. What I assume is why they actually thanked the author for his publicity of them, even though he was making fun of them. I think they enjoy their negative feedback more than the positive, sometimes. Or maybe they lack the ability to know when someone is being sarcastic, which could also be the case.
Lol, just make sure those are vegan marshmallows, Mistica, and I think they'll be fine with it. But seriously, that chocolate did look delicious. I want.
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Post by pitbulllady on May 23, 2010 14:22:08 GMT -5
I think it might be Gears of War that has real dogs as an enemy at one point. I'm not 100% sure, but it's a game like that. The game that they're talking about in this case is a Myspace and Facebook game calle Mafia Wars. There was something about Pit Bulls that I think you may use as weapons. I don't know, but the game removed after being threatened by PETA. I always feel sad shooting animals in games, but I don't see why it should be any different from shooting people in the long run of things. Normal people are able to distinguish video games from real life. I consider violence in video games no different from violence in movies. I think PETA doesn't really care, but just wants to make a scene. What I assume is why they actually thanked the author for his publicity of them, even though he was making fun of them. I think they enjoy their negative feedback more than the positive, sometimes. Or maybe they lack the ability to know when someone is being sarcastic, which could also be the case. Lol, just make sure those are vegan marshmallows, Mistica, and I think they'll be fine with it. But seriously, that chocolate did look delicious. I want. PETA DOESN'T really care, honestly, and that is one of the many things that make them such awful hypocrits! They whine and moan about animated Pit Bulls being killed in a video game, when they want every single REAL Pit Bull to be killed in real life! They bee-atch about Michael Vick killing a dozen or so dogs that didn't fight up to par, when they kill thousands of dogs and cats and other animals every year, many of which were brought in by owners who thought that these animals would be given loving homes...surely an organization that claims to protect animals and stand for animal "rights" wouldn't actually harm an animal, would they? Both PETA and the equally-hypocritacal HSUS demanded that Vick's dogs be killed following the raid on his property, although to give PETA some credit, at least THEY didn't beg the public for donations of money to "care" for the dogs, as HSUS did, even though none of the dogs were in their care at all. When the judge who decided the dogs' fate found out that HSUS was soliciting money online and on tv to provide for the dogs' "care", he ordered them to cease and desist, and they in turn demanded that the dogs be destroyed. Thankfully, the judge did not listen to either them or to PETA, but allowed the ASPCA to evaluate the dogs and had them sent to various rescue groups out west. At least PETA, unlike HSUS, does not make any claims of rescuing or caring for animals, although thousands of young people all over the world continue to believe that they are all about stopping animal abuse and cruelty and continue to blindly support them, not realizing that their idea of "stopping animal abuse" means stopping ANIMALS, period, as in stopping them from existing. HSUS is much more misleading and still lies about "saving abused animals" and makes people think that they operate shelters, when they don't. They are a much more deceptive group than PETA, which makes them much more dangerous to animal owners and to animals themselves. pitbulllady
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Post by Bampot on May 23, 2010 14:39:21 GMT -5
To be truthful, it doesn't take to long to figure PETA out after long, if you get into them. I took an interest in them a few years back and it took me about two weeks and a couple Google searches to find out what they really were. It also doesn't take long to realize that many people for animal rights want all domestic animals destroyed. I don't understand those who have been in groups like PETA for a long time and still think they're okay. I mean, all the information is right there. I think it's just some hard cases of denial. You can stand up for animals and their well-being without aligning yourself within any particular group.
Isn't the HSUS grouping up with Vick to talk to kids about animal abuse? I wonder how that's going to go. Might as well get some wife beaters to talk to teens about domestic violence while you're at it.
Also, has anyone here volunteered at a shelter before? I have and I'm thinking about going back. It's just that a lot of the women (it's all women here) that work there are a bit...nuts. I liked helping the animals, but it was the people that made me quit. I don't know if it will be the same as last time or different.
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Post by RandallBoggs on May 23, 2010 18:33:04 GMT -5
Actually I think I know that. Gears of War did something like that with a fake weapon, but I don't think it was a Pitbull. It was either a cow or a chicken...at least pretty sure it was one of those. A regular "gag" weapon, but in the end I think they actually included it as an unlockable in an add-on.
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Post by Bampot on May 23, 2010 18:43:41 GMT -5
I don't know for sure since I don't play it, but I'm pretty sure it was Gears of War that they first targeted. I haven't sees=n them attack survival horrors, which often have dog creatures as enemies or pets that you can use to attack with.
Oh, and there's a game called Dragon Age that came out not that long ago where you fight wild dogs. They're apparently a big pain too, but you get to tame one as a pet at some point.
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Post by RandallBoggs on May 23, 2010 18:45:33 GMT -5
Resident Evil anyone? ^0^ I guess if it's deformed for some reason or another, it passes -=
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Post by Bampot on May 23, 2010 18:50:22 GMT -5
Yeah, same with Silent Hill. There are dogs in almost all of their games too, but they're monsters.
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Post by pitbulllady on May 23, 2010 18:52:44 GMT -5
To be truthful, it doesn't take to long to figure PETA out after long, if you get into them. I took an interest in them a few years back and it took me about two weeks and a couple Google searches to find out what they really were. It also doesn't take long to realize that many people for animal rights want all domestic animals destroyed. I don't understand those who have been in groups like PETA for a long time and still think they're okay. I mean, all the information is right there. I think it's just some hard cases of denial. You can stand up for animals and their well-being without aligning yourself within any particular group. Isn't the HSUS grouping up with Vick to talk to kids about animal abuse? I wonder how that's going to go. Might as well get some wife beaters to talk to teens about domestic violence while you're at it. Also, has anyone here volunteered at a shelter before? I have and I'm thinking about going back. It's just that a lot of the women (it's all women here) that work there are a bit...nuts. I liked helping the animals, but it was the people that made me quit. I don't know if it will be the same as last time or different. Yes, HSUS IS the group which has hired Michael Vick to "educate" kids about the evils of dog-fighting, and I had to laugh at your analogy there of hiring wife-beaters to teach them that domestic violence is wrong, although it was a very apt analogy. HSUS first wanted to kill all of the REAL victims, the dogs, and now they have partnered with the man who was abusing the dogs in the first place. Real class act, Wayne Pacelli and the AR Mafia, still running those slick ads on tv begging for "just $19.00 per month" to help those poor, sad-eyed cats and dogs, while working hard to destroy the 3 billion dollar reptile industry and all animal-related agriculture, along with purebred cats and dogs, and while hiring people who belong to known terrorist organizations. Yeah, classy as Hell. I have volunteered at local shelters, actually, and I've seen animals put down. It's not good to watch, but the majority of those animals were not adoptable, either due to health issues that could not be resolved or behavioral issues that made them a real danger. Probably 80% were feral cats and dogs, animals that had never been owned by anyone, who were just as wild as a bobcat or a coyote, and who would never be tamed. Both our local shelters really go the extra mile to find homes for animals that can be adopted, like my cat, and they partner with individuals to foster animals and businesses to sponsor them. BUT, I have seen many shelter operators/employees who were rabid Animal Rights supporters, too, who want mandatory spay/neuter for all domesticated animals and who are strict vegans themselves, and many animal rescuers who believe that they and they alone are the "Chosen Ones" who have the knowledge, expertise and resources to care for certain kinds of animals, and who believe that everyone else should be prohibited from owning or breeding them. pitbulllady
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Post by sgtyayap on May 23, 2010 18:57:03 GMT -5
BUT, I have seen many shelter operators/employees who were rabid Animal Rights supporters, too, who want mandatory spay/neuter for all domesticated animals and who are strict vegans themselves, and many animal rescuers who believe that they and they alone are the "Chosen Ones" who have the knowledge, expertise and resources to care for certain kinds of animals, and who believe that everyone else should be prohibited from owning or breeding them. pitbulllady That last bit pretty much summarizes my employer last summer, unfortunately.
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Post by Bampot on May 23, 2010 19:05:49 GMT -5
Ugh, so the Vick thing is true! That's just insane. I think it's good to educate kids on subject like animal abuse, but I think showing the rescued dogs and explaining how they were treated would be a lot more productive than Vick going, "Yeah, I abused animals and got a slap on the wrist and I'm still famous, but don't do it because it's bad."
I ran into the "chosen one" people who believe that they were the only ones able to raise animals. They seemed to hold the notion that everyone else in the world didn't see animals in the light they did. They were less than nice to me an the other newbs there, but didn't hesitate to give us all the work and go in the other room to play with the kittens. They're also not taking pets right now, but they're not currently full. My uncle had a stray dog have 10 pups in his yard last spring. He found most of them homes, but there were about 3 left. He brought them to the shelter and they yelled at him for not spaying his dog, not even listening that it was a stray. They did the same thing to my aunt when a stray cat had kittens in her shed. I don't see why there's a need to yell at someone to spay/neuter an animal that isn't theirs and refuse to take the homeless pets they bring.
Also, they practically shunned me when I told them I got my dog from a breeder, which is why I quit.
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Post by pitbulllady on May 23, 2010 20:20:19 GMT -5
Ugh, so the Vick thing is true! That's just insane. I think it's good to educate kids on subject like animal abuse, but I think showing the rescued dogs and explaining how they were treated would be a lot more productive than Vick going, "Yeah, I abused animals and got a slap on the wrist and I'm still famous, but don't do it because it's bad." I ran into the "chosen one" people who believe that they were the only ones able to raise animals. They seemed to hold the notion that everyone else in the world didn't see animals in the light they did. They were less than nice to me an the other newbs there, but didn't hesitate to give us all the work and go in the other room to play with the kittens. They're also not taking pets right now, but they're not currently full. My uncle had a stray dog have 10 pups in his yard last spring. He found most of them homes, but there were about 3 left. He brought them to the shelter and they yelled at him for not spaying his dog, not even listening that it was a stray. They did the same thing to my aunt when a stray cat had kittens in her shed. I don't see why there's a need to yell at someone to spay/neuter an animal that isn't theirs and refuse to take the homeless pets they bring. Also, they practically shunned me when I told them I got my dog from a breeder, which is why I quit. Yep, typical Animal Rights activists-always assume everyone else but them is stupid and guilty of the "pet overpopulation crisis", hate animal breeders and those who buy animals from them instead of getting animals from rescue. When they treat everyone like scum of the earth, why WOULD anyone want to get an animal from them? My sister had a very similar experience a few months ago at a shelter where she'd gone to find a dog for a friend of hers who had recently lost her dog to cancer. She thought it would be a noble thing to get one from a shelter...BIG mistake! She screwed up from the get-go and admitted that she herself owned purebred dogs, then made a double mistake of telling them that she was looking for a dog for someone else. They practically cussed her out. I made a similar mistake several years ago of trying to adopt a Greyhound from one of the Greyhound rescue groups, and stated on the application(which was like, five pages long)that I bred and showed dogs and HUNTED wild game with them, and even worse, some were...GASP, HORRORS...PIT BULLS! They told me off, accusing me of being a dog-fighter and an animal abuser and saying that they were circulating my name and personal information to every animal rescue organization on the eastern seaboard to put me on their "Do Not Adopt To" list. Reptile rescues are often just as bad, and many are actually strongly in support of the proposed Federal ban on large snakes, blaming pet owners, pet breeders, reptile importers and the pet industry as a whole for the Burmese Pythons in the Everglades. They are convinced that banning ALL cold-blooded creatures is the only way to end the problem...except that they, of course, feel they should be excempt from such laws. pitbulllady
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