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Post by mentalguru on May 27, 2009 12:12:51 GMT -5
Boo seems to be quick on her feet and has a tendancy to 'disappear' alot. She also seems to be a bright kid in my opinion.
Does anyone think Randall could have had some influence on her? At all?
Unless...
-narrows eyes-
RANDALL! Where were YOU approximately 2 years and 9 months before the movie aired?!
Just kidding. But that WOULD make a hilarious crack!fic would it not?
Randall: Boo, I am your father.
older!Boo: What?
Randall: Just kidding, but I could have been.
older!Boo What?!
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Post by RandallBoggs on May 27, 2009 18:51:22 GMT -5
*blinks* Uhh...you seriously want an answer? I got him right here ^_^
I don't think Boo has much in "disappearing" as such as being a lead in hide and go seek games (which leads me to think she's not as secluded as one would thing). Randall MIGHT have influenced that...Boo perhaps hiding every now and then at night when he'd supposedly come. That or she did it anyway and the matchers figure Randall would be the better candidate to find and scare her quickly/efficently ^_^
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Post by pitbulllady on May 28, 2009 19:08:36 GMT -5
A lot of little kids Boo's age(in the movie)have an uncanny knack for "disappearing", as anyone who's ever tried to keep up with a toddler at a busy mall or park can attest! Boo IS really smart, and very talented, artistically, though, something she does have in common with her erstwhile Scarer. Randall must have had at least some artistic or drafting ability, along with mechanical and engineering skills, to be able to design and develop a complicated piece of new machinery, from scratch. It certainly IS ironic that like him, Boo was fast and agile for a little kid, was skilled artistically, and had a wicked temper when provoked. While I'm sure that is all just coincidence(one that most fans of the movie probably failed to notice), I myself have toyed around with the notion of Randall having had a secret little tryst(or two...or three)with adult female humans he'd encountered by chance while Scaring, and that unbeknownst to him, this unique little girl was actually the "love child" of one such encounter, lol!
No, I don't really believe that, although as I have discussed the genetics of such a "hybrid" child, and the possibility that he/she could look fully human, but have abilities that perhaps go beyond those of a normal human child, it's not altogether unreasonable, either. What IS intriguing is the nature of the relationship between Randall and Boo, immediately prior to the movie's events. I find it odd that Boo even knew his name, and reacted with fear at merely hearing it mentioned. Why was that, exactly? I mean, now many Scarers introduced themselves, formally, to the kids they were assigned to scare? Wonder how many kids were on a first-name basis with the monsters who came to scare them and collect their Screams? It just seemed rather odd to me that however negative the relationship between Randall and Boo seemed to be, at that point, that there was still that level of closeness between them. Another thing that I found interesting-and I've brought THIS up before, too-is the appearance of the costume that Sulley chose to conceal Boo's identity when he and the Eyeball brought her back to the factory; it was purple and had a SCALY pattern, a wide "mouth" with sharp, pointy "teeth", and two large, round, bulbous "eyes". While it probably was just a coincidence, and I'm sure that Sulley made no connection whatsoever between his old easy chair's upholstery and Randall's appearance when crafting that disguise, I have to wonder just what went through RANDALL'S head when HE first saw "the kid" in that get-up!
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Post by RandallBoggs on May 28, 2009 19:13:30 GMT -5
Love child....*thinks...then gags*
Seemed morely like a jab in the gut to Ran really....*blinks* I highly doubt that Ran had ever come to their apartment building, so ruling out that he'd know where it actually came from......0_0
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Post by pitbulllady on May 28, 2009 19:32:21 GMT -5
Love child....*thinks...then gags* Seemed morely like a jab in the gut to Ran really....*blinks* I highly doubt that Ran had ever come to their apartment building, so ruling out that he'd know where it actually came from......0_0 Gags? Why? I have no problem, as you know, with the notion of Randall having an intimate relationship with a female human. If I DID, I'd be the biggest hypocrite on the internet! pitbulllady
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Post by RandallBoggs on May 28, 2009 19:37:02 GMT -5
*Points to a circle with an arrow pointing up...well..diagonal* Maybe it's a guy thing. ^0^
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Post by pitbulllady on May 28, 2009 20:49:45 GMT -5
*Points to a circle with an arrow pointing up...well..diagonal* Maybe it's a guy thing. ^0^ Must be. I know that on the various Foster's Home-related forums I've been on, where the topic of romantic relationships was permitted, virtually all of the many supporters of WiltxFrankie(and yes, for those of you who don't know, Frankie is a young woman; it's a nick-name for "Francis", a name she detests)were females, and the most ardent haters of that pairing were guys. Of course, many of these guys were rabid Frankie fanboys themselves, and quite young at that, so they identified with the character Mac, an eight-year-old kid in third grade, and while having no problems with the concept of a grown woman(Frankie is 22)having an intimate relationship with a little third-grade boy, were absolutely appalled at the mere idea of that same 22-year-old woman having the same sort of relationship with a 32-year-old Imaginary Friend, who is essentially a monster himself, genetically closely related to a very human creator. So, why the prejudice, guys? It is NOT bestiality, since both monsters like Randall and their human-generated Imaginary Friend counterparts ARE not only genetically virtually the same as us, but have the same capacity for making choices based on morals and ethics that we do. If so many human females find Randall that attractive, it's not that far-fetched to assume that he just might have reciprocal feelings for some of us. If he really did know that humans weren't toxic and had actually taken the time to educate himself on what we're really like as opposed to the inevitable myths/wives' tales(something his unique ability would lend itself very well for doing, unnoticed by the human subjects of his scrutiny), I don't see again, why curiosity might not lead somewhere else, especially if he was not involved at the time with a female monster. It's just a mystery to me why guys are nearly always the ones who believe that a human/monster or human/Imaginary Friend relationship is so repulsive, while most of the supporters of said relationships are usually female. pitbulllady
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Post by RandallBoggs on May 28, 2009 20:54:43 GMT -5
Hey! *points finger* You not labeling me are you? 0_-
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Post by pitbulllady on May 29, 2009 5:22:38 GMT -5
Hey! *points finger* You not labeling me are you? 0_- YOU were the one who said it was a guy thing! My observations simply support that. pitbulllady
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Post by mentalguru on May 29, 2009 7:34:04 GMT -5
I kind of know what you mean pitbulllady. It's not true of all guys of course, but you find similar things sometimes within the Mutant Ninja Turtles fandom (which I'm sort of a part of). When it comes to 'shipping' perhaps the worlds most famous fictional reptiles, girls in terms of percentages are more likely to do it than guys, even when you take into account there are more girls on the online fandom in the first place (like any fandom, 90% of fics are probably written by girls).
(I'm an April X Donatello shipper, a fangirl of both him and Leonardo AND I love Wilt X Frankie too!)
Also (partially going back to the fanfic thread, I kind of know what you mean about finding Randall attractive yet not being a furry- I have the same problem with Leonardo in TMNT. I think he was my first TV crush in the old toon, and the adoration continued into the new series. And I have a soft spot for Don but... they really seem to be the exception to the rule mostly, not that Randall doesn't have is own charms...)
In more random news, more related to this thread- I can't help picturing Boo cosplaying as Skywalker and Randall as Vader right now. Which is just odd. But would be kind of cute. In a weird sort of way.
It also make me want cosplay them in other fandoms. Like Avatar the last airbender- Boo as Aang, who is a brave happy sort even in the face of trouble or just as an airbender (since Aang himself of course, is male) and Randall as the moody at-first-glance-bad-but-really-not-so-much-he-just-has-issues Fire Prince Zuko. In the show, both their less than perfect pasts, similarities, differences and 'destiny' to eventually go from fighting against eachother to side by side is what drives most of the show (bar, Aang's romantic relationship with a character called Katara).
Random thoughts. I know.
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Post by Bampot on May 29, 2009 9:41:05 GMT -5
I think the idea of Randall having a relationship with a human female would be very interesting. I've never had a problem with things like that.
Ugh, Mac/Frankie grosses me out. Maybe if Mac was a bit older, but Frankie just plays the big sister part to me. Wilt/Frankie, on the other hand, is my favorite Foster's ship. Maybe it is a girl thing, so to speak.
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Post by pitbulllady on May 29, 2009 17:01:28 GMT -5
I'd actually messed around with the idea of a fanfic a couple of times involving Randall trying to seek out this young woman he'd once been secretly involved with after winding up in her world, as he'd certainly need assistance and a place to stay. In my idea/plot bunny thingie, they'd broken up rather unpleasantly right before the whole thing started with the Scream Extractor, due to either his sometimes childish behavior, or both of them being too paranoid about this relationship being discovered(I shudder to think of what punishment might befall monsters who are caught having such a relationship with a human). Of course, neither of them realized at the time they last saw each other that that she was pregnant, and by the time that Mary was born, the woman had moved to a different city, perhaps to take up residence in her parents' old home, so that when Randall began keeping tabs on little Mary in preparation for using her as a "Guinea pig", he made no connection between her address and that of his former lover. Even the child's last name could have been different from her mother's, especially if her mom had met and married a guy with the last name of Gibbs(yes, that IS Mary's last name in the movie, too), or had lied about the last name of the child's father on the birth certificate. Upon finally reuniting with his old flame some two years or so after the movie's events, he would have discovered that she had a kid-THAT kid-and that the child he's so relentlessly tormented for many months, and very nearly could have wound up harming seriously, was actually his own daughter! Mary, of course, is too young, at the age of four, to understand such things, and is still angry with him and does not accept him at all, so that would be a real emotional struggle there if ever there was one, as Randall tries to come to grips with the fact that she is his own child, but that she hates him. Him trying to make ammends with her mother, while gaining Mary's acceptance and trust, would make for some major angst for sure, but probably also some real heart-warming scenes, too, eventually.
Still, I like the idea of Randall x older Boo better, since their chemistry is just "there". Regardless of the nature of their relationship, it seems like those two were "connected" from the very beginning, before they even met.
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Post by RandallBoggs on May 29, 2009 19:05:38 GMT -5
*blinks* Well even if I AM a guy, it's not like Ran and the relationship with a human is negative in my opinion. *shrugs* I'm just thinking of the bigger concepts with it that make the sort of relationship...difficult...
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Post by mentalguru on May 30, 2009 12:49:54 GMT -5
Still, I like the idea of Randall x older Boo better, since their chemistry is just "there". Regardless of the nature of their relationship, it seems like those two were "connected" from the very beginning, before they even met. pitbulllady I C WUT U DID THAR. (It killed me to write like that. Never Again.) Heh. I like the idea of it in the fics universe (whether platonic or not- like I said, I'll let the readers decide whether, after the fic is over, if such a thing could happen), but in how the story is going to play out, although Randall is physically getting better- emotionally he still has issues. Lots of issues. Boo will help him yes... But she won't be the only one to help. Perhaps Randall can make friends as in PLURAL. (Yes that is a blatent hint). All the same, I'm feeling sorry for the guy. He's going to go through alot of crap in my fic. Alot. Sulley's path will not be roses either (It isn't roses right now, but it's going to get rougher- watch as Sulley finally snaps!) But Randall's is going to be wilder, if I'm honest. Both will emotionally however go through alot of crap before the end. Basically. Especially Randall. (Sorry Randall).
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Post by pitbulllady on May 30, 2009 17:08:19 GMT -5
Still, I like the idea of Randall x older Boo better, since their chemistry is just "there". Regardless of the nature of their relationship, it seems like those two were "connected" from the very beginning, before they even met. I C WUT U DID THAR. (It killed me to write like that. Never Again.) Heh. I like the idea of it in the fics universe (whether platonic or not- like I said, I'll let the readers decide whether, after the fic is over, if such a thing could happen), but in how the story is going to play out, although Randall is physically getting better- emotionally he still has issues. Lots of issues. Boo will help him yes... But she won't be the only one to help. Perhaps Randall can make friends as in PLURAL. (Yes that is a blatent hint). All the same, I'm feeling sorry for the guy. He's going to go through alot of crap in my fic. Alot. Sulley's path will not be roses either (It isn't roses right now, but it's going to get rougher- watch as Sulley finally snaps!) But Randall's is going to be wilder, if I'm honest. Both will emotionally however go through alot of crap before the end. Basically. Especially Randall. (Sorry Randall). That's pretty cool, the way you've chosen to handle the romance angle. Honestly, I don't think I could do a very good job of writing romance, either, especially with intimacy involved! That takes a really special talent, to make the relationship seem interesting and "hot", without becoming corny and cliche'd or crossing the line into smut. This is like the approach that Lauren Faust put forth on another forum about the whole WiltxFrankie thing, which many fans support, after someone who despises that 'ship(a guy, of course, who has a major case of the "hots" for Frankie himself) complained about a photo in Madame Foster's room of Wilt and Frankie exchanging a very close hug-it was not the intent of the writers to specifically portray or hint at a romance between them, or any other main characters(aside from Fluffer Nutter and Jackie Khones, who are really background characters), but if any fans wanted to see it that way, or 'ship WiltxFrankie, that was fine, too. It was basically left up to the fans to decide for themselves, "are they or aren't they?" Maybe you should change your pen name to "Schadenfreude", lol, after what you're putting these guys through! Still, it's very realistic that no matter what happens, Randall is going to go through some very, very rough times, emotionally, as part of his healing process. Basically, this is like therapy for him, something he'd probably never put himself through, professionally, unless ordered to by a court of law, but let's face it, Randall had some major issues long before any of the events in the movie happened, even, probably going all the way back to his early childhood, which I sincerely believed did contribute at least in part to the breakdown he experienced in the movie. Like an abscess that has to be lanced and drained before it can get well, this is going to be a painful, drawn-out process that will test not only Randall's strength and will to survive, but those of the people around him, too. But, just like an abscess being lanced, this is a necessary part of the healing process. And I'd really look forward to Randall becoming a valued member of a group, making many new friends and most of all, learning how to BE a friend once again. Most people don't think of Randall as being a "people pleaser" at all, but he is. He's as driven as Wilt is to make others happy and to seek their approval, even when it means doing something he knows is wrong, or sacrificing his own comfort/safety/enjoyment. Randall can't deal with others not liking him or not approving of his actions, which is why he was so easily caught up in Waternoose's plan and why it would make sense for Waternoose to ensure that this approval stayed just out of his reach by keeping someone else, in this case James P. Sullivan, in the top spot instead of Randall. Randall was driven by the same self-doubts that eventually led to Wilt's characteristic, "I'm sorry, sorry, sorry" only with Randall, instead of turning his anger inward, as Wilt did following what happened with his child creator back in Charleston, Randall can't contain it and lashes out at others. Wilt's emotional turmoil reached its peak in Good Wilt Hunting when he basically-as difficult as it is for some fans to comprehend-sought to end his own life in that final rematch against Foul Larry, knowing fully well that Larry was going to try to finish him off with that "wall slam". You can see, even in episodes leading up to that movie, that Wilt was utterly falling apart, emotionally, but later it became apparent that this process, even up to re-living the day his arm and eye were destroyed and nearly having his life ended there and then in a Charleston ghetto alleyway, were necessary for him to be able to have closure and move forward. That's how it is with Randall, too; it's gonna get worse before it gets better. pitbulllady
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