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Post by pitbulllady on Apr 16, 2009 14:44:03 GMT -5
At least, at the time of the movie's events, that is. While searching for various online pics of her from various angles, with various expressions, prior to my most-recent fan art piece, I came across several screen caps that might provide a clue as to what part of the US she lived in. I'd never, to be honest, paid that close attention to screen caps of anyone but Randall, and since the pics in her room do not include him, I'd never paid much heed to them at all, other than to her art work and to the various toys that Sulley(often to his dismay)has to interact with. While looking over these screen caps, though, I suddenly, for the first time, noticed the type of bed she slept in and the architectural style of the room itself, and I was literally amazed. Boo's bed is what 's known as a "Rice Planter's Bed", identified by tall, upright bedposts at both the head and foot of the bed, capped off with a distinct symbol of what we here in South Carolina refer to as the "Holy City"-Charleston-and that is the famous Charleston pineapple. The pineapple is a familiar theme throughout that city, and even appeared in the background architecture of the Foster's Home movie, Good Wilt Hunting, signifying that Wilt's SC Low Country or "Geechee" accent was no fluke. This style of bed was developed in the SC/Georgia Low Country(coast)and first became popular among the wealthy rice plantation owners. While anyone can purchase one now, this style is still by far more popular in and around Southern port cities, especially Charleston, Beaufort, Georgetown and Savannah than anywhere else, and is associated with that area of the coast. You can see a good pic of the bed here: www.sunkissvillas.com/assets/wallpaper/MonstersInc/Bye_Boo_1280x1024.jpg . Her bed is, of course, a scaled-down child-sized model, so its posts are not as tall as those of an adult's bed, but the style is identical, and those pineapples are distinctive. Here's a shot of her entire room, which shows the window. That window, with the built-in bench seat, is featured in a lot of historical(and knock-off wannabe historical houses)homes in the Low Country as well, and is often associated with plantation-style homes, especially those of what's called the "Georgian-Palladian" style of architecture. Given the size of her room(compared to that of most little kids' rooms), it's easy to infer that her parents/guardians were well-off, financially, and whether she lived in an old, historical home or a home built and designed to look like it was old, I can surmise that she lived, at that time, in an old coastal city along the Southeastern coast of the US. Here's a pic of the room, showing that window: www.jimhillmedia.com/mb/images/upload/Monsters-Inc-Jessie-Luxo-we.jpg . On an overall scope of things, it probably doesn't mean much. So WHAT if Boo lived in the South(her accent is not yet developed enough to tell where she's from by that)? Well, consider the irony here: Sulley threw RANDALL into a trailer, also located in the Southern US. Now, while it's generally been accepted by most people knowledgeable about US geography/culture that Randall wound up in Louisiana, you will also find that exact same geography(cypress swampland)AND a very similar dialect to the Cajun/Creole of Louisiana in an around the region between Charleston, SC and Savannah, GA. That's the Geechee dialect I mentioned already(I can promise you that Wilt would pronounce "gator" as "gatUH", too), so we can't totally rule out that this pathetic excuse for a trailer was sitting on the edge of a SC swamp, like the Pocataligo or ACE Basin(one of my favorite places on the planet, one I know pretty well, having hunted snakes there many times). I just think it would be pretty darn funny, if, in his desire to get rid of Randall and make sure he was as far from Boo as possible should he survive, Sulley wound up tossing him literally right in her backyard! pitbulllady
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Post by DinoGirl on Apr 16, 2009 16:40:34 GMT -5
Hmm... I love how you've compiled the infomation and this was actually a very enjoyable post to read. This is very interesting I must say, as I never really considered where Boo actually lived... now that is a very big coincidence if she does live in the South. Hmm... Links everywhere.
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Post by RandallBoggs on Apr 16, 2009 19:00:55 GMT -5
Hmm...I might need to ask him about that...*blinks* Oh then again, he's in an annoyed state ^0^ Great research, I admire that ^_^
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Post by pitbulllady on Apr 16, 2009 20:08:11 GMT -5
Hmm...I might need to ask him about that...*blinks* Oh then again, he's in an annoyed state ^0^ Great research, I admire that ^_^ Her bedroom certainly has a Southern "feel" to it, and given that Sulley can actually stand up straight in there without banging his head on the ceiling indicates a very high ceiling, something you just don't see in newer homes, let alone apartments. That's something you see in old, historical homes, especially here in the South, since the high ceilings functioned to carry heat up and away from the home's occupants in summer, before there was air conditioning. Up North, where keeping WARM in winter would have been more of an issue, you're likely to see lower ceilings, even in those older homes. I've toured some of the historical buildings in Philadelphia and NYC, and none of them had a ceiling that Sulley could have stood up in without either damaging the building OR his head! I can just about change a light on the ceiling, without using a ladder, of the house where I live now, which was built in the 1940's, but in the house where I grew up as a child, built sometimes between the Revolutionary and Civil Wars, you'd need a really tall ladder...or be able to climb up walls and cling to ceilings like Randall does...just to change a light bulb. It's just funny I never noticed Boo's room's details before, but I guess we were meant to focus on her and on the Fur Rug rather than the room itself. pitbulllady
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Post by RandallBoggs on Apr 16, 2009 20:11:32 GMT -5
It's amazing how much info we can get from one little room ^_^ Ha! I wonder if you can guess how many rooms the place has ^0^ I wouldn't be surprised given how well you did from one room ;D
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Post by pitbulllady on Apr 16, 2009 20:45:52 GMT -5
It's amazing how much info we can get from one little room ^_^ Ha! I wonder if you can guess how many rooms the place has ^0^ I wouldn't be surprised given how well you did from one room ;D Most such houses would have two or more bedrooms, a kitchen with a separate dining area(a lot of times, the kitchen was actually built separate from the house itself, connected by a long hallway, due to this being the highest fire risk area), a living room(or "sittin' room" as it's called down South, traditionally used for formal gatherings), a den(an informal area), a library, and, in the really big plantation-style homes, a large ballroom used for big formal gatherings/entertainment. In old homes that have been remodeled to suit modern occupants, the outside kitchen is either torn down or converted into a utility room for things like the washer and dryer, or into a hot tub area or sun room, and the dining area serves both that purpose and the cooking area, combined, while bathrooms are of course, added or constructed from extra bedrooms. In any case, Boo didn't live in an apartment, and probably not in a modern home, either. People just don't build houses now with ceilings tall enough to accomodate an 8-ft. tall monster, with room to spare-too inefficient on energy to have a ceiling like that now. pitbulllady
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Post by RandallBoggs on Apr 16, 2009 20:49:12 GMT -5
Whoa actually did it 0_0 Wow 0_0
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Post by pitbulllady on Apr 16, 2009 21:21:24 GMT -5
I actually visited a historic, and still-occupied, home in Georgetown, SC, a little over a year ago, which had rooms very much like Boo's. I have picturs of the outside of this old plantation home in my DA gallery. It has the same window bench seats and vaulted top to the windows, along with the hardwood flooring. It's one of two ante-bellum(pre-Civil War)homes located on this property, along with a dozen or so slave homes. A guy who owns a Studebaker parts dealership(yes, there are still dealers of parts around, even though the company stopped making cars in 1966)lives there and runs a hunting reserve on the plantation grounds. I have, though, seen very similar homes in the Garden District of New Orleans.
pitbulllady
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Post by RandallBoggs on Apr 16, 2009 21:24:10 GMT -5
That's drastically ironic that the type of house could be like those in the place you showcase many of your pics of Ran in ^_-
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Post by pitbulllady on Apr 16, 2009 21:46:27 GMT -5
That's drastically ironic that the type of house could be like those in the place you showcase many of your pics of Ran in ^_- Yeah, it is, although most of my Louisiana fan art with Randall featured the French Quarter, not the Garden District. There aren't many actual homes in "da Quawtuh", just businesses(a LOT of bars and strip clubs) and historical buildings(non-residential). Most of the occupied structures are horribly overpriced apartments. I have only seen the Garden District homes from the street(including the one where Anne Rice lived at that time), but I've been inside many such homes in Charleston and Georgetown, not only on personal business, like obtaining classic car parts or hunting snakes, but also as part of SC history tours and family vacations. pitbulllady
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Post by RandallBoggs on Apr 16, 2009 21:49:29 GMT -5
Wow...interesting name bits there in Orleans 0_o
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Post by mentalguru on Sept 14, 2009 12:43:00 GMT -5
I kind of always figured Boo was AMERICAN at least, never questioned that (but that's more because Pixar was an American company so... well you know. Made sense.)
I made her from 'the south' in connections but moved to NY but didn't know she was from New Orleans until pitbulllady pointed it out. Other than that, all I could say was:
"Damn her parents or one of her parents has cash." I mean, all those toys...and the room is BIG. Plus, I kind of figured she was probably an only child- since at that young age, although old enough to be seperate to her parents sleeping arrangements to a degree, often they'd stick siblings together after all.
It's possible either they got rich enough to buy the house if it is old, with 'new money' or one of the parents inherited it and they've got some OLD money too possibly
Damn it all, Boo could be a 'rich kid'!
She's at the very least probably in the higher rung of the Upper-middle class if not.
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Post by pitbulllady on Sept 14, 2009 17:24:44 GMT -5
I kind of always figured Boo was AMERICAN at least, never questioned that (but that's more because Pixar was an American company so... well you know. Made sense.) I made her from 'the south' in connections but moved to NY but didn't know she was from New Orleans until pitbulllady pointed it out. Other than that, all I could say was: "Damn her parents or one of her parents has cash." I mean, all those toys...and the room is BIG. Plus, I kind of figured she was probably an only child- since at that young age, although old enough to be seperate to her parents sleeping arrangements to a degree, often they'd stick siblings together after all. It's possible either they got rich enough to buy the house if it is old, with 'new money' or one of the parents inherited it and they've got some OLD money too possibly Damn it all, Boo could be a 'rich kid'! She's at the very least probably in the higher rung of the Upper-middle class if not. Her parents(or whoever raised her) were certainly not paupers, that's for sure, not with a room like that! This was definitely an old house, since as I pointed out, they don't make ceilings like that anymore, tall enough that Sulley can stand up comfortably in a room, especially not in a BEDROOM, which tend to have lower ceilings than say, a den or dining room in these old homes. Most likely, the home has either been "in the family" for many generations, or her family was rich enough to buy it, and pre-2001, this type of home would have been insanely priced for sure! This really makes all those fanfics in which Boo grows up in poverty, with really mean parents who don't love her or don't give her anything, seem all the more stupid, doesn't it? Of course, I've always thought that it would be so ironic if Sulley, in his rage and eagerness to get rid of Randall by any means necessary, wound up "banishing" him to the very state, the very PART of the state, in which Boo lived, practically dumping him right in her backyard, as it were. Once Randall recovered his senses from that beating, and discovered where he was in the Human World, he'd probably have no trouble locating her address and home, although not realizing just WHY Mike and Sulley had her, he'd probably also figure they'd turned her over the CDA to be killed once they were rid of him. He'd have no reason to assume anything otherwise, so he'd have no reason to assume that she was even still alive, let alone back home, which would not afford any reason for him to go to her home unless at some point he became so overcome by guilt over the grief caused to her parents that he felt the need to confess to them his role in their child's disappearance, despite the obvious risk to his life doing THAT would surely be. pitbulllady
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Post by mentalguru on Sept 15, 2009 3:21:27 GMT -5
Yeah. I mean come on, judging by her stuff, she doesn't seem to have any 'hand me-downs'. Lots of NEW toys and a big room in some big expensive house. Yeah, sure folks, she is 'abused' and 'poor'! Whatever you say guys. In 'connections' they'd have either bought it, or the mother might have inherited it in some form. I'm not sure Randall would feel that much guilt- they didn't view humans as on par with monsters. He'd probably see it as a big disappointment in some form though, if he thought about it- kind of like if you see some dog being destroyed from no fault of its own etc. Still, the potential for Randall meeting Boo later on in life deeply amuses me, as you can tell. Because on some level, when think of the person she could potentially be when she is older, I think they could get along. Boo wouldn't remember Randall at all after all. So she probably wouldn't fear him like she did. I kind of doubt, even if Sulley remained a part of her life, that he would give her a complete description of him to begin with, perhaps when she got a little older and perhaps she asked what happened but perhaps not. Perhaps she'd eventually not know the story of how she met Sulley for some time (until she asked after a while due to not remembering). The potential of Randall 'bumping into' Boo probably wouldn't cross Sulley's mind. Who knows he might have had the potnetial to do so in the year that Sulley was seperated from her. (Is trying not to think of a 3 and a half year old Boo asking Sulley when he first meets her again to stay behind and meet 'Uncle Randall'- oooh boy.)
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Post by randomdrifter on Sept 16, 2009 0:42:08 GMT -5
Yeah. I mean come on, judging by her stuff, she doesn't seem to have any 'hand me-downs'. Lots of NEW toys and a big room in some big expensive house. You don't even have to look at her spacious and beautifully decorated room or the amount of toys to realize that Mary was a perfectly happy child. Her behavior alone (her extroversion, willingness to explore, being potty trained, all that good stuff) is enough to indicate that she had highly educated, attentive, and caring parents. I second the assumption that Boo was likely the first and only child in a well-to-do family. It'd be interesting to find out just how her parents could have gone from dedicated and caring in the movie, to distant and aloof in the fic. (That's one huge step away from how they started out, after all.)
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