Post by pitbulllady on Jul 24, 2006 22:34:17 GMT -5
And Sparky, if you read this, I apologize for not PMing you, but I knew that you would be busy after just getting home from Comic-Con, and I had to get this off my chest, and I knew that the Never Forgotten Forum was NOT the place, NOT after what happened in the Fanfic section!
Anyway, those of you who have been around here long enough, however many of you there are, and that goes for Sean especially, already know my feelings on the topic of "slash", either in fanfiction or fanart. I've expressed it before, and if that makes me a horrible person in some people's eyes, so be it. As some of you know, I'm actually a Co-Admin on another Proboards forum, the Never Forgotten Foster's Community, dedicated to the Cartoon Network series, "Foster's Home For Imaginary Friends". I happen to also be very fond of the character, "Wilt", who is probably pretty much equal to Randall in how I feel about him, and THAT is saying a LOT, since no other character, animated or live-action, as ever captured my attention in the way that those two have.
Not long ago a new member, who feels pretty strongly about Wilt herself, brought up the topic of "slash", specifically Wilt x Eduardo 'shipping. For those of you who do not know, Wilt is a tall, kind, good-natured, yet scarred-both physically and emotionally-red Imaginary Friend, who is very mature and very protective and fatherly at times. Eduardo is a huge, Minotaur-like monster of an Imaginary Friend, who happens to have the mind and emotional developement of a four-five-year-old child, and who is scared of almost everything. He counts on Wilt to "save" him from scary things like spiders, butterflies, etc., and Wilt sorta partronizes him the same way that a parent would a small child. SOME people, however, see their relationship as being far beyond close friends or a parent/child-type of relationship, and insist that they are gay lovers, or WANT them to be, rather. I'd expressed my thoughts on the topic of "slash" before, and stayed out of that latest one. In that, a new member expressed how disgusted SHE was with the number of Wilt x Eduardo fics and fanart there is out there, and she was promptly attacked by those people on the board who either write, draw or support that pairing, in often-explicit fashion. They said things like THEY were disgusted that she even had a keyboard, and one of the other mods ended up locking that thread.
Well, one member in particular, who happens to be on the "staff" herself, and IS quite talented, seems to be really flaunting her support of Wilt x Eduardo, as though taunting those of us who find the whole notion unacceptable. Her excuse is always, "no one is being hurt" by it. Her current avatar, as if to prove her point, shows a screen cap of an episode in which another character, "Bloo"(a two-foot-tall blue, two-eyed version of Mike Wazowski, but with a whole lot more gumption than Mike will EVER have),leaning against Eduardo's middle(he was actually trying to keep Eduardo from walking forward and getting a room that Bloo wanted, I believe, if I got the scene right), with the caption, "I can hear it move!" to suggest that Eduardo was pregnant, and below the avatar is the line, "It's gonna take after Wilt", to suggest of course, that HE was the father, even though BOTH of them are males! Now, KNOWING that there are members on the forum who really dislike the notion of that pairing, would y'all not consider THAT to be in particularly bad taste? I mean, if I changed my avatar to something that indicated how much I hated that pairing, or stating that Wilt was NOT gay(and Eduardo cannot even comprehend what it means), I'd be jumped on like a duck in a gator pond! I'd probably start something bad if I made and posted an avatar insinuating that Wilt "got biz-zay" with one of the FEMALE characters, like Frankie, for instance, but it's OK for this other member to post one that all but blatantly says that he got another guy
pregnant?? On top of that, while Googling Foster's last night to see what new stuff was up on the net about it, I stumbled across a Livejournal, on which this other person is also a member, and her gif.avatar there bordered on obscene! I cannot even post it here,since it would violate Proboard's policy, but it was Wilt x Ed, again.
She says, "no one gets hurt" by her "slashing" Wilt and Ed. I'm sorry, but it DOES hurt, not physically, but on a much deeper level. Think about how some of y'all feel about Randall, whether or not you actually find him physically attractive; if you are really fond of him, think of how YOU would feel if someone drew a pic of him doing something that you were really bothered by, or found unacceptable, or completely out-of-character, something that even Pixar or Disney would likely have issues with, or wrote a story in which he did something like that, and you KNEW that they were doing it in part because they knew it would bug you! If this were a character that I didn't know, or didn't really care about one way or the other, these people could "slash" them all they wanted, but by doing that with a male character I really find attractive, and THEN DELIBERATLEY FLAUNTING IT, it's like they're saying to ME, directly, "NOW you can't even have him in your stupid little fantasies, because he doesn't LIKE women! He only wants to give it other guys, and now every time you even think of him, you're gonna picture him and his boyfriend together, so THERE!" It's one thing if this person just put up fanfics on FF.net, or posted art on DA, and gave us fair warning so that anyone who wished NOT to see that could avoid it, but posting it openly on the forum is too much, I think. What do Y'ALL think-that I should mention it to the Admin, or just let it go?
pitbulllady
Anyway, those of you who have been around here long enough, however many of you there are, and that goes for Sean especially, already know my feelings on the topic of "slash", either in fanfiction or fanart. I've expressed it before, and if that makes me a horrible person in some people's eyes, so be it. As some of you know, I'm actually a Co-Admin on another Proboards forum, the Never Forgotten Foster's Community, dedicated to the Cartoon Network series, "Foster's Home For Imaginary Friends". I happen to also be very fond of the character, "Wilt", who is probably pretty much equal to Randall in how I feel about him, and THAT is saying a LOT, since no other character, animated or live-action, as ever captured my attention in the way that those two have.
Not long ago a new member, who feels pretty strongly about Wilt herself, brought up the topic of "slash", specifically Wilt x Eduardo 'shipping. For those of you who do not know, Wilt is a tall, kind, good-natured, yet scarred-both physically and emotionally-red Imaginary Friend, who is very mature and very protective and fatherly at times. Eduardo is a huge, Minotaur-like monster of an Imaginary Friend, who happens to have the mind and emotional developement of a four-five-year-old child, and who is scared of almost everything. He counts on Wilt to "save" him from scary things like spiders, butterflies, etc., and Wilt sorta partronizes him the same way that a parent would a small child. SOME people, however, see their relationship as being far beyond close friends or a parent/child-type of relationship, and insist that they are gay lovers, or WANT them to be, rather. I'd expressed my thoughts on the topic of "slash" before, and stayed out of that latest one. In that, a new member expressed how disgusted SHE was with the number of Wilt x Eduardo fics and fanart there is out there, and she was promptly attacked by those people on the board who either write, draw or support that pairing, in often-explicit fashion. They said things like THEY were disgusted that she even had a keyboard, and one of the other mods ended up locking that thread.
Well, one member in particular, who happens to be on the "staff" herself, and IS quite talented, seems to be really flaunting her support of Wilt x Eduardo, as though taunting those of us who find the whole notion unacceptable. Her excuse is always, "no one is being hurt" by it. Her current avatar, as if to prove her point, shows a screen cap of an episode in which another character, "Bloo"(a two-foot-tall blue, two-eyed version of Mike Wazowski, but with a whole lot more gumption than Mike will EVER have),leaning against Eduardo's middle(he was actually trying to keep Eduardo from walking forward and getting a room that Bloo wanted, I believe, if I got the scene right), with the caption, "I can hear it move!" to suggest that Eduardo was pregnant, and below the avatar is the line, "It's gonna take after Wilt", to suggest of course, that HE was the father, even though BOTH of them are males! Now, KNOWING that there are members on the forum who really dislike the notion of that pairing, would y'all not consider THAT to be in particularly bad taste? I mean, if I changed my avatar to something that indicated how much I hated that pairing, or stating that Wilt was NOT gay(and Eduardo cannot even comprehend what it means), I'd be jumped on like a duck in a gator pond! I'd probably start something bad if I made and posted an avatar insinuating that Wilt "got biz-zay" with one of the FEMALE characters, like Frankie, for instance, but it's OK for this other member to post one that all but blatantly says that he got another guy
pregnant?? On top of that, while Googling Foster's last night to see what new stuff was up on the net about it, I stumbled across a Livejournal, on which this other person is also a member, and her gif.avatar there bordered on obscene! I cannot even post it here,since it would violate Proboard's policy, but it was Wilt x Ed, again.
She says, "no one gets hurt" by her "slashing" Wilt and Ed. I'm sorry, but it DOES hurt, not physically, but on a much deeper level. Think about how some of y'all feel about Randall, whether or not you actually find him physically attractive; if you are really fond of him, think of how YOU would feel if someone drew a pic of him doing something that you were really bothered by, or found unacceptable, or completely out-of-character, something that even Pixar or Disney would likely have issues with, or wrote a story in which he did something like that, and you KNEW that they were doing it in part because they knew it would bug you! If this were a character that I didn't know, or didn't really care about one way or the other, these people could "slash" them all they wanted, but by doing that with a male character I really find attractive, and THEN DELIBERATLEY FLAUNTING IT, it's like they're saying to ME, directly, "NOW you can't even have him in your stupid little fantasies, because he doesn't LIKE women! He only wants to give it other guys, and now every time you even think of him, you're gonna picture him and his boyfriend together, so THERE!" It's one thing if this person just put up fanfics on FF.net, or posted art on DA, and gave us fair warning so that anyone who wished NOT to see that could avoid it, but posting it openly on the forum is too much, I think. What do Y'ALL think-that I should mention it to the Admin, or just let it go?
pitbulllady